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post Dec 16 2014, 12:16 AM

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Are SPXL and SPXS good ETF choice to track SP500 movement? In terms of tracking accuracy as well as liquidity, I guess. Thanks! notworthy.gif


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post Dec 16 2014, 04:36 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 16 2014, 03:53 AM)
No, they're not accurate because they're 3x leverage (one bull, one bear) and they reset everyday after the percentage move.
Dangerous to play this if you're on the wrong side.
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they reset everyday? that seems "accurate" in a way?
i watched them moving pretty much 3x according to how SP500 moves. Seems quite accurate....
and ya, i am more interested to play 3x, faster moving. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 16 2014, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 16 2014, 10:26 AM)
No, there are some tracking errors on those ETFs. The longer the timeframe, the more tracking errors and also they decay over time too - eventho if the underlying index stays the same over a longer time.

For example.

Let say if SP500 @ 2000 on day 1, SPXS=20
Within a month, SP500 may go up or down and let say it goes back to 2000 after 30 days,
you will find SPXS will be less than $20.
On other news...  did you see that 17% interest rate by Russia Central bank? This is absolutely insane!
I guess they got no choice because everyone in Russia now panicking and selling the Rubles like Zimbabwe currency.
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Thanks! I understand now.

Ya, I guess Russia is in deep deep shxx now. Double attack by oil and politics. Only one hope: china rescue. Otherwise, even if oil price rebound, if not enough customer, Russia still in deep deep shxx. shakehead.gif
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post Dec 17 2014, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(Brother J @ Dec 16 2014, 11:21 PM)
closed all @55 shorts. all the way from $69
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closing? not expecting below 50? biggrin.gif

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post Dec 17 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 17 2014, 11:10 AM)
Thanks for heads up.. somehow it seems to be less attractive here. Will wait to see if 185 can hold or not.

On other tech stocks:  AAPL vs BABA. Almost back to old price of low 100'ish.

Which one do you guys want to do play?  biggrin.gif
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definitely apple. still waiting it to drop to 100 or lower. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 17 2014, 08:34 PM

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interesting, this XLE etf. Will monitor it for oil play. brows.gif
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post Dec 18 2014, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 12:07 AM)
For leverage play, ERX (bull 3x), ERY (bear 3x).
Be very careful with either one of those two. They can be deadly (if you're wrong) or treasure chest (if you're right).  biggrin.gif
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post Dec 18 2014, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 01:53 AM)
Auntie Yellen is really powerful. She didn't really have to say anything or change any policy. Her appearance alone scared all the bears and make the bulls happy.  biggrin.gif
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Now good news (rate hike) is good news for stock market? biggrin.gif
We'll have to see if today is a fake bull or not. laugh.gif
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post Dec 22 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 22 2014, 11:09 PM)

.. perhaps everytime you buy/sell locally, they will charge you transaction fee, and currency exchange fee too.  That would be a double ouch. nod.gif
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fyi, for cimb's iTrade, every foreign account transaction will first "buy the currency", then "trade with the currency" and you may choose not to change back into RM if selling foreign shares. As for my iTrade, there are currently 3 sub-accounts to deal with HKD, USD and RM although all 3 still managed under one integrated iTRade account. So no double charged. laugh.gif

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post Dec 23 2014, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 12:54 AM)
$30/trade.. that's high.  shocking.gif  Does this involve a human remisier assisted trade?

$30 could mean 30 trades for me..
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if you look at percentage, it's not that high (but still higher than you, i am sure). The minimum charge is about total of US$30.
for transactions around RM10k, i see the total charges pretty much same for US and HK shares (about US$30), so I assume they are close. I did transaction for RM20k on HK stock before, and the charges just slightly higher at about US$40, which gives a rate of 0.66%, not too bad I guess.
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post Dec 25 2014, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 11:01 PM)
The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones...  biggrin.gif

Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas
after 5 good days of bull run.
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Me too. Sold all SPXL just now for 15% profit. Good Christmas present. laugh.gif

Merry Christmas. wink.gif

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post Dec 27 2014, 03:56 AM

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stock bull continues, oil bull diminishing. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 30 2014, 04:28 AM

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looks like oil possibly like to test US$50 again?... hmm.gif

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post Jan 2 2015, 12:06 AM

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post Jan 2 2015, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 2 2015, 02:06 PM)
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existing holdings, think good chance as us economy looks strong, usd getting stronger.
crude... should see bottom "soon". tongue.gif
but... how to buy more with rm? now...3.5145. shakehead.gif
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ya, i also don't know when should be a good time to buy USD. Can RM rebound in near term? Wondering.... doh.gif
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post Jan 2 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 2 2015, 04:56 PM)

i will probably look for good buys when rm rebounds a bit becos it will probably not last.
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ya, same strategy on me. But maybe i can't wait too long, because US and HK market may not wait with me. They are bullish. hmm.gif
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post Jan 6 2015, 12:59 AM

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finally, oil at $50.
what's next? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 6 2015, 04:39 AM

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ok. first stop 1970. brows.gif
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post Jan 9 2015, 12:21 AM

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apalah! why bull come today? let bear play first mah. wink.gif
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post Jan 9 2015, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 9 2015, 01:04 AM)
biggest winner today is aapl. 50% sales incr in 2014... mindboggling...

with that, etf's like spy, qqq weighted wih aapl all gain nicely.
5 days down, 2 days flat, 2 day up - still got a couple more days to run up! tongue.gif
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