Are SPXL and SPXS good ETF choice to track SP500 movement? In terms of tracking accuracy as well as liquidity, I guess. Thanks!
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Dec 16 2014, 12:16 AM
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Need help from Sifus here.
Are SPXL and SPXS good ETF choice to track SP500 movement? In terms of tracking accuracy as well as liquidity, I guess. Thanks! |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:36 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 16 2014, 03:53 AM) No, they're not accurate because they're 3x leverage (one bull, one bear) and they reset everyday after the percentage move. they reset everyday? that seems "accurate" in a way? Dangerous to play this if you're on the wrong side. i watched them moving pretty much 3x according to how SP500 moves. Seems quite accurate.... and ya, i am more interested to play 3x, faster moving. |
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Dec 16 2014, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 16 2014, 10:26 AM) No, there are some tracking errors on those ETFs. The longer the timeframe, the more tracking errors and also they decay over time too - eventho if the underlying index stays the same over a longer time. Thanks! I understand now.For example. Let say if SP500 @ 2000 on day 1, SPXS=20 Within a month, SP500 may go up or down and let say it goes back to 2000 after 30 days, you will find SPXS will be less than $20. On other news... did you see that 17% interest rate by Russia Central bank? This is absolutely insane! I guess they got no choice because everyone in Russia now panicking and selling the Rubles like Zimbabwe currency. Ya, I guess Russia is in deep deep shxx now. Double attack by oil and politics. Only one hope: china rescue. Otherwise, even if oil price rebound, if not enough customer, Russia still in deep deep shxx. |
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Dec 17 2014, 12:39 AM
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Dec 17 2014, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 17 2014, 11:10 AM) Thanks for heads up.. somehow it seems to be less attractive here. Will wait to see if 185 can hold or not. definitely apple. still waiting it to drop to 100 or lower. On other tech stocks: AAPL vs BABA. Almost back to old price of low 100'ish. Which one do you guys want to do play? |
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Dec 17 2014, 08:34 PM
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interesting, this XLE etf. Will monitor it for oil play.
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Dec 18 2014, 04:07 AM
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Dec 18 2014, 04:08 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 01:53 AM) Auntie Yellen is really powerful. She didn't really have to say anything or change any policy. Her appearance alone scared all the bears and make the bulls happy. Now good news (rate hike) is good news for stock market? We'll have to see if today is a fake bull or not. |
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Dec 22 2014, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 22 2014, 11:09 PM) .. perhaps everytime you buy/sell locally, they will charge you transaction fee, and currency exchange fee too. That would be a double ouch. |
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Dec 23 2014, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 12:54 AM) $30/trade.. that's high. if you look at percentage, it's not that high (but still higher than you, i am sure). The minimum charge is about total of US$30.$30 could mean 30 trades for me.. for transactions around RM10k, i see the total charges pretty much same for US and HK shares (about US$30), so I assume they are close. I did transaction for RM20k on HK stock before, and the charges just slightly higher at about US$40, which gives a rate of 0.66%, not too bad I guess. |
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Dec 25 2014, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 11:01 PM) The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones... Me too. Sold all SPXL just now for 15% profit. Good Christmas present. Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas after 5 good days of bull run. Merry Christmas. This post has been edited by yok70: Dec 25 2014, 01:03 AM |
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Dec 27 2014, 03:56 AM
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stock bull continues, oil bull diminishing.
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Dec 30 2014, 04:28 AM
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looks like oil possibly like to test US$50 again?...
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Jan 2 2015, 12:06 AM
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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
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Jan 2 2015, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 2 2015, 02:06 PM) existing holdings, think good chance as us economy looks strong, usd getting stronger. crude... should see bottom "soon". but... how to buy more with rm? now...3.5145. |
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Jan 2 2015, 04:59 PM
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Jan 6 2015, 12:59 AM
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finally, oil at $50.
what's next? |
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Jan 6 2015, 04:39 AM
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ok. first stop 1970.
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Jan 9 2015, 12:21 AM
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apalah! why bull come today? let bear play first mah.
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Jan 9 2015, 01:26 AM
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