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Ramjade
post Nov 2 2017, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Nov 2 2017, 08:54 AM)
is it USD10k per trade? or maintain USD10k in total distributed over however many funds i buy?

whats the data fees like?
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It's USD10k to open account which can be used for trading.

Usd10/month. Can be waived if you fulfilled either one:
1) you have USD 100k worth of stocks/cash with them.
2) If your trading commission >= USD10/month

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post Nov 2 2017, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Nov 2 2017, 09:43 AM)
thanks, at that rate, maybe ameritrade SG still better at USD10.9/trade for those just starting out
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IB is good for trading and access to other market all in one place.

For US stocks/ETF, can consider Charles schwab and 8 securities. Much cheaper than ameritrade.
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post Nov 2 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(ronho @ Nov 2 2017, 10:27 AM)
Charles schwab and 8 securities.... can explain a bit more about these bro or where to get more info ?? tx
pm also can  tx  notworthy.gif
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What to explain? They are broker. One is based in US, one in HK.
US - Charles schwab
HK - 8 securities

Charles schwab - $4.95/trade
8 securities - 0%
Ramjade
post Nov 2 2017, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(repusez @ Nov 2 2017, 05:01 PM)
hi,
how do u open account for both broker, courier document or scanned ?
what's the minimum deposit ?
do u use moneymatch to tx money to fund the account ?
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See how they want it. Best to contact them via email. Usually all your official documents need verification by commissioner of oath.

I don't have either one but that will be my go to choice for brokers to trade in US.

Yes. You can use money match to fund it as mentioned by their boss.

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post Nov 5 2017, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(the_powerbank @ Nov 5 2017, 06:32 PM)
Helllo all

Looking to get started in US stock market. Read a lot of previous threads about reliable brokers with lowest cost.
Want to confirm with sifus which is the best one based on personal experience:

1. Interactive Brokers - heard this one is cheapest but not suitable if do not trade often

2. TD Ameritrade - a bit expensive but many people say its good

3. Charles Schwab - quite cheap also but how is the registration process?

4. 8 securities - looks like a startup so not sure whether can trust

Most important is reliability of whether can safely deposit and withdraw without issue.
Hope sifus can give other suggestions too

ThanksĀ  rclxms.gif
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Depends on what you need. No right or wrong. For me personally, will choose either Charles schwab or 8 securities.

Charles schwab, just email them about application. Application by post is definitely acceptable. Don't know whether they allowed scanned copies. 8 securities is trusted as they are from HK and regulated by HK govt. If you don't trust HK govt, don't choose them lo.

All of them usually want application by post as they want to see ori signature, ori verified documents by commissioner of oath.

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post Nov 7 2017, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(toiletwater @ Nov 7 2017, 09:20 PM)
I am currently pondering the same question. Haha.

I have an additional question:
6. If you open an-US based account (e.g, interactive brokers, USA) are you liable to pay taxes on capital gains or fill up tax forms?
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Just WBEN-8 form.

30% dividend tax + death tax. Unker Sam wants a slice of your fortune when you die
Ramjade
post Nov 12 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Nov 12 2017, 04:34 PM)
So far from what ive checked.

FSM sg: for sg stocks/reits and not UT.

8 securities: read somewhere about a guy transferring in and out sgd50: apparently the TT charges all are pretty high. What more a bigger amount being transferred, u will be charged even higher - that was the conclusion.

Charles Sc: so far its only 4.95 per trade and no charges on inactivity fees etc.

IB: high starting capital and good for those with a bigger budget to spend. Charges usd10 per month for account inactivity or commission less than usd10 per month.

Do correct me if im incorrect peeps.
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Correction. That's is TT fees. It not what 8 securities can control. Even if you were to use IB or Charles, very high chance you will be slap with that fees also.

That's why last time when there's no fintech, we are force to pay those fees. Well not anymore.

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post Nov 12 2017, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Nov 12 2017, 09:34 PM)
Btw guys, new update from me. I got in touch with Charles Schwab from US telling me to go via their Sg branch.

Excerpt:
You would be eligible to open the Schwab One international Brokerage account. The initial deposit requirement is $25,000 USD.

Yes, there you go. $25,000 USD initial deposit.

Guess the way to go so far is 8 securities or Sogotrade.

this is the link to the person's experience on transfer fee charges by 8securities (just last month October 2017)
https://apenquotes.wordpress.com/2017/10/10...e-8-securities/
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See the comment. I commented under a fake name. If you have been transferring money overseas, you know that you pay a hefty price just to do a TT.

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post Jan 14 2018, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ooyah98 @ Jan 14 2018, 11:58 AM)
hi all, I m new to US stocks & yet to purchase any. I have an RHBInvest account and been investing in KLSE & SGX.  The charges/fee in trading US stocks via RHBInvest online seems quite high; i heard that there is also a high transaction fee in receiving each dividend payment.  May I know what are the cheaper ways to trade US stocks?    Many thanks in advance.
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Of course. It's true for every country. Buying from local stocks from local broker is always cheaper than you use your own local broker to buy international stocks. All the info you need can be found in this thread.

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post Jan 16 2018, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(55665566 @ Jan 16 2018, 08:29 AM)
can we buy etfs from any malaysia brokers?
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Can. You pay higher commission, dividend fees (whenever there's dividend) + maintenance fee biggrin.gif

If you don't mind giving free money to your broker, then just buy from them. Save you time. No need to research brokers, no need to submit documents overseas. biggrin.gif

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post May 8 2018, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ May 8 2018, 11:19 AM)
above brokers u mentioned are about to buy oversea ETF right?

if yes, i recommend eToro as well.
US ETF,, min USD 500, withdraw fee USD25.

comparison wise, no comment, i never use those brokers u recommended above.

its out of topic btw. if wanna future discuss, lets go to ETF tread.
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Don't use etoro. They are cfd broker which is different story. They are not stock broker.
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post May 8 2018, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ May 8 2018, 12:46 PM)
They have x1 leverage , which is normal stock purchase..
CFD they charge overnight fees..
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Somehow I don't trust etoro.
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post May 8 2018, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(mephyll @ May 8 2018, 12:54 PM)
Huh? Can share why?

Based on your previous brokers sharing , can please conclude which broker is the most reliable/ lowest fee/ recommended?
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1. eToro is not a real stock broker. They are CFD broker.

Interactive broker if you have money of USD100k under them. No broker offer that cheap fees. 2nd runner up is Exante but I have yet to email them about their customer service
The above 2 are the one of the brokers on my consideration for international investing.

Standard chartered SG for the poor man who wants to buy international stocks. Their fees can be found here.
https://www.sc.com/sg/investment/online-tra...244970df361e303
The downside: hard to open account with them as they don't want to accept malaysian customers.

For me, try to open standard chartered sg, consolidate all my holdings there while messaging Exante to enquire about fees. If cheap may consider that over interactive broker.

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post May 9 2018, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 9 2018, 09:16 PM)
where is the ETF thread? i want buy ETF.
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Here you go.
Ramjade
post May 31 2018, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ May 31 2018, 06:34 PM)
Hi Shifus,

I have been using my cimb to buy US stocks now. The brokerage fee is quite expensive though I'm not a trader type.

May I know how safe is it to use the Zacks trade?

I have tried to open an account with TD ameritrade. Till the end of the account opening, realise have to make payment via wire transfer and in USD dollars. Is it all the foreign broker will request us to make payment with such a method?

Thank you for your advice!
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For me I always believe in keeping cost low. Why should you pay your broker extra when you can use the extra to invest? Never waste good money.
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post Jun 1 2018, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Jun 1 2018, 09:44 AM)
Noted with thanks Ramjade.

May I know for IB, I must maintain the min amount of 10k in the account all the times? Does it include the market value of the shares which I purchase or just cash in the account?

The other thing is if I use online foreign TT for Maybank, the cost of transfer is the same with over the counter using wire transfer?

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The US 10k can be use for investing. Keep in mind the monthly USD10 fee if you don't have asset worth USD100k with them.

IB only good if
1) you trade a lot until your commission >USD10 which means don't need to pay the fees.
2) if you have USD100k with them.

Otherwise go for broker like
1) 8 securities
2) Exante
3) OptiomXpress

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post Jun 3 2018, 04:48 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 3 2018, 02:30 AM)
Some discussions about '8 Securities' here. See link added at last line here. The last posting says it's not really 'that foc' for foreigners outside of HK.

For 'OptionsExpress', in Singapore, Charles Schwab Singapore Pte Ltd imposes this : All amounts are in US dollars. Minimum to open an Individual/Joint account: US$25,000.

Brokerage is cheap, only USD4.95 per transaction. But I can't find what the upper limit is for the transactional amount that qualifies for this cheap brokerage. MY feeling is,.....I think the only cost that matters is the TT-ing into and out of funds from out trading account inside Charles Schwab.

Edited to add this link below about '8 Securities'. Forgot to attach this link earlier !

https://apenquotes.wordpress.com/2017/10/10...e-8-securities/
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I am the one who left the comment. Obviously that's bank wire charges. To get best rate, don't keep bringing money back to Malaysia.

Get a holiday open a HK bank account and you can trade for super cheap price
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post Jun 3 2018, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 3 2018, 06:43 PM)
For myself,... I will be TT'ing over USDs. There will be no currency conversion. Hence, what that I need to worry about is only the inward TT charges and outward TT charges charged by 8 Securities.

Would you happen to know offhand how much is each of the above with respect to 8 Securities ?

Great net interactions you have there,... :thumbsup:
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No I don't know. I just don't like people spewing out lies without doing proper research.
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post Jun 25 2018, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Jun 22 2018, 10:37 AM)
Hi guys,

I tried to TT over the counter in Maybank (convert from MYR to USD) to TD ameritrades but I was informed by Maybank personnels that we cannot TT for investment purpose...

have u all faced such problem before? or should I use CIMB, Hong leong or other banks?

Or I shouldn't put investment as the reason? But it's obvious right when it is TD ameritrade ...

Tolong guys...

Thank you.
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Normal what. Heard don't know how many rumours that maybank don't allow transactions to known "Forex brokers"

QUOTE(Hansel @ Jun 22 2018, 11:59 AM)
This is news to me, bro,....  shocking.gif ,... you need to declare that you have no debts in Msia before you can TT a certain sum out,.. that was the rule, I recall,.... BUT not outright telling you that you CAN'T TT OUT for investment purpose...

Let's see others' experience here too,...
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Not new news. This is old news already. This is Malaysia policy on no forex.

QUOTE(spiderwick @ Jun 25 2018, 01:43 PM)
wow,sth new...have not heard about this.
thanks will find out!

But actually Maybank personnel said I can try to TT using online maybank2u and the fee is way cheaper..
however I'm not sure, if I put investment could I go through...
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Wrong. Cheapest is using those service. Moneymatch, instarem, max money are all good choice. Only question is does the receiving end accept deposit from 3rd user.

QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 25 2018, 09:16 PM)
cannot be cheaper that instarem as when the money reach US bank will deduct USD 25 as fee
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Agreed.
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post Jun 27 2018, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(spiderwick @ Jun 26 2018, 02:14 PM)
Then what am I suppose to do  bangwall.gif

I will check with Instarem whether they have any experiences to TT money to overseas brokerage or not then.
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Try UOB. UOB have the cheapest exchange rate in all of Malaysia. But not sure if they will be flexible for you or not.

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