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Ramjade
post Jun 28 2018, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Jun 28 2018, 10:36 PM)
trying to understand more about foreign ETF before I commit

correct me if I m wrong, from what I understand in the discussion, if I have an account with a US based broker (say IB/charles schwab) and I buy a US based ETF, the gains will be taxed 30% by the US government?

but if I have an account with a non-US based broker (say 8securities) and I buy a non-US based ETF (say london?) the gains would only be taxed 15%?
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Nope won't work that way. There's no capital gains for foreigner but foreigner will be hit with a 30% with holding dividend tax.
It all depends on where is it listed. If you buy US demociled ETF, expect to get tax 30% on the dividend. If you buy a Irish domiciled eTF which is listed on LSE which track the US index, you only get hit with 15% with holding tax on your dividends.

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post Aug 19 2018, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Aug 19 2018, 09:44 AM)
Hi guys,

I am new to this so please be patience with me. I am reading though this thread. Still reading.

ETF is tracking of a basket of index right? Suppose I want to buy a specific stock like let's say Amazon. Is it the same?

Do I need a bank account in USA? In the event I want to cash out they will transfer back the money to my account in Malaysia? 

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4640026
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ETF and stocks are listed on exchange. You will need a broker which can trade US stocks.

As rjb123 said, Nope you don't need a US bank account but every time you convert from RM > USD > RM, banks take a chunk out of it in terms of marked up forex rates, transaction fees, multiple fees (if any)..

Having a US bank account will lower your cost significantly. Also never buy using local brokers as apart from the fees mentioned above, they marked up the commission, have dividend fees, maintenance fees.

If you are planning to buy foreign stocks, your choices would be if you save cost.
1) open a local broker in that country.
2) open a cheap international broker



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post Aug 20 2018, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Aug 19 2018, 08:55 PM)
Thanks

1) will check with Fidelity how to go about this.
2) any cheap international broker to recommend ? Thanks
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Fidelity is bloody expensive.
If you are short on cash, 8 securities.
If you are loaded interactive broker.
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post Aug 20 2018, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Aug 20 2018, 10:49 AM)
Do you have website for interactive broker?  Will check It out. Again very new to this. Only familiar with Singapore

Reason I am asking on fedaity is because I already have an account with them coz got stock option from my company.
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Just Google doh.gif
Don't open interactive broker unless you have USD100k cash ready.
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post Aug 21 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Cactus89 @ Aug 20 2018, 11:46 AM)
FSM Sg usd8.8 /0.08% per transaction.. plus TT fees to sg is way cheaper than to US or other country. But bear in mind, u need very large amount maybe 30-40k and above to gain from etf. if small ikan bilis amount. the withholding tax, transaction fees will eat large part of yr profit.. better to earn local stock /UT if have smaller warchest
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FSM SG have yearly platform fees for US market. Not good platform.
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post Aug 26 2018, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ladszy @ Aug 26 2018, 04:39 PM)
Hi, I'd like to say thanks for making this guide first, I'm still reading through it, just wanted to confirm a few things if that's okay.

1. IB's inactivity fee is only charged for those under 100k or total commissions during the month under $10, if my commissions are over $10 then I'd be fine regardless?
btw, IB has eliminated the 10k requirement ( https://www.investopedia.com/news/interacti...ccount-minimum/ )

2. Can one hold onto an Irish domiciled ETF while trading short-term on a US-Domiciled ETF? What are the main differences between them except for the WT %?

3. If I have an SG bank account, is it overall cheaper to deposit into my IB account via it? My income etc are RM.

4. IB allows one free withdrawal per month, does this mean if I don't go withdraw more than once per month, it's basically free to withdraw? When it comes to withdrawing. can you convert your funds into SGD and then to a SG bank account, or it's better to just put it directly into an MYR account.

5. TDAM Asia's website is apparently not secured on my end, are they any good or should I just stick to IB? Seems like they don't have commission free ETFs too.

Edit: 6. Does Malaysia have a tax identification number? Should I just leave it as a No while opening an account for IB?
Thanks again for this informative post.
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1. If your commission is over USD10, you won't get charged

2. Sure why not? From what I know, not so liquid means harder to buy and sell at the price you want.

3. Of course as you just transfer the money into IB like how you do a normal fund transfer to your friend/family. No additional TT charges + fees impose by banks.

4. I don't think it stacks up. One means one. Yes can withdraw into your SG bank account. They don't support RM due to nature of our currency. Yes you can cash out in RM but it's going to be more expensive.

5. Stick with what works for you.

6. Your income tax no.

rjb123please correct me if I am wrong.
Ramjade
post Aug 27 2018, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Aug 26 2018, 07:14 PM)
Hi ramjade, would you know if 8securities has access to irish-domiciled ETFs?
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Nope. Read carefully. Irish ETF are listed on LSE. 8 securities does not have access to UK market.

QUOTE(Ladszy @ Aug 26 2018, 10:33 PM)
Thanks fellas. I'm a bit curious, why do we need to submit our local tax information to them?
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Anti money laundering stuff. Is initially for US to track where rich people keep their money.
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post Sep 5 2018, 08:24 AM

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rjb123, what broker to you recommend to gain access to UK, Europe exchange?

Is Exante good? Also can one open a Degiro account?

Not IB as no money for IB.
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post Sep 5 2018, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Sep 5 2018, 08:56 AM)
Not sure if I’m honest - I used to use Fidelity I think previously for UK but that’s was like 13 years or so ago ... the only other accounts I’ve held since were TDAM and IB, and as IB covered every market I didn’t have any reason to look for any other brokers.

Degiro redirects me to a page of 18 countries, I assume that’s because they don’t take international clients.
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I emailed them and they send me to that page doh.gif doh.gif
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post Sep 5 2018, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Sep 5 2018, 09:03 AM)
Well according to their FAQ
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No problem there since Transferwise have UK and EU account under our name.
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post Sep 5 2018, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Sep 5 2018, 09:11 AM)
Then should be all good I guess.

Didn’t realise they actually did accounts now too - normally these forex companies will just use segregated accounts.

Anyway it probably isn’t too difficult to open an account in one of the supported countries
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That's if one can get on a plane to that country to get a bank account. If can't the only option I can think of is Transferwise.

Any reviews about Exante?
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post Sep 5 2018, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Sep 5 2018, 09:22 AM)
And found this on another website RE Degiro
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The question is can they accept my transferwise account hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Sep 5 2018, 09:31 AM)
Which bank is the account in, in which country? Seems to be the deciding factor here.

You can give Degiro a call, see what they say.
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I opened up UK and EU account with Transferwise.
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post Sep 7 2018, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 7 2018, 09:31 PM)
How to open TW account frm malaysia?
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Open online only. Bagi IC, wait few days for them to approve your documents.
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post Sep 8 2018, 05:46 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 7 2018, 11:03 PM)
TW cannot transfer RM to USD IB account
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Don't tell me you didn't know TW got no license to transfer money from malaysia. doh.gif doh.gif
They can only transfer money to Malaysia.
Use instarem, merchant trade, max money to transfer money to TW > IB. Don't transfer straight as if you transfer straight, money not under your name.
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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 8 2018, 04:53 PM)
how to use Instarem to transfer to TW?

What info I need to filled in Instarem?
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It should be same like how you transfer money. Put in all the required details Swift code, account no, name, address, bank name.
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post Sep 8 2018, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Sep 8 2018, 09:06 PM)
Do u mean we can store money at Transferwise?
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Yes. Please read up
Transferwise Borderless Account
You get your own account for the following 4 countries.
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Australian account number and BSB code
British account number and sort code
European IBAN
US account number and routing number


You will be charged for withdrawing money. But the sum is very much acceptable.
https://transferwise.com/help/article/27361...account-pricing
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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Sep 10 2018, 05:25 PM)
Hi guys, was wondering anyone knows about transferring us stock into a local bank account , I already have a foreign stock account here
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Don't. Want to know why? Local brokerage charge higher commission + dividend fees + maintenance fee.
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post Sep 10 2018, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Sep 10 2018, 05:30 PM)
Thanks for the feedback, however the only trading account I have for foreign stock is HLE.

Asking as I been offered a chance for private equity, if any chance it IPO, want to transfer back here to sell .

Any thoughts ?
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Open interactive broker/8 securities or charles schwab. Better options.
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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Sep 10 2018, 05:43 PM)
Let's say I don't mind about the costs, is it possible to transfer it back here ?
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As long as listed on stock exchange and you are willing to pay the transfer in fees, local brokerage will be more than happy to accept you. Of course I don't know if they accept private equities.

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