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Ramjade
post Jan 21 2017, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 21 2017, 07:24 PM)
u can borrow personal loan to trade and earn much more compare to personal loan interest rate.
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And what happen if you make a loss? hmm.gif
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post Jan 21 2017, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jan 21 2017, 08:07 PM)
Like I said earlier. I am scaredy cat. My guts cannot stomach such anxiety that comes with such investment/trading.
Don't worry. People like us also won't perform that badly nor will us perform that good biggrin.gif Slow and steady.
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post Jan 21 2017, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jan 21 2017, 08:53 PM)
I just remembered something regarding this point that you've brought up. The VXUS ETF is actually exclusive of USD. The argument for it is, in the case of a downturn which affects US greatly, but not other parts of the world, this ETF will serve as kind of a hedge (I'm not sure if this is the right term, all of them are still rather vague to me).

Though, how likely is this situation where US is greatly affected, but not the rest of the world? E.g. 2008. Would the sifu here enlighten me. I was rather oblivious to the world financial situation during that period but I had the impression that the effect was pretty much global.
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Usually global index have 50-70% allocation in the US. So that way, it's better to just pick a US ETF (like VUSD https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/VUSD:LN instead of picking VWRD. Don't believe me? Check out the geographic allocation of VWRD.
https://americas.vanguard.com/institutional...QUITY##overview

When US sneezes, the world catches a cold.

So you can pick
1 US tracking ETF
1 Emerging market ETF
1 bond ETF

optional - portfolio of REITs.

QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jan 21 2017, 09:21 PM)
I slap together a quick calculation regarding forex fluctuation (or actually MYR strengthening continuously).

Please have a look and comment. Do keep in mind that I may have left out some details or overlooked some factors. So do point them out and maybe I can improve the sheet to reflect reality better. It's really just a very crude calculation.

Conclusion from it is that if the USD/MYR were to go from 4.5 to 3.5 at the end of the 10 years:
1. If you invest more at every four year interval, you'll be getting less 1.4% of your CAGR. (Four years is based on my personal capability to cough up USD10,000, may be different for you)
2. If you invest only once, then it's 2.6%. Probably this is rather big.

So if you can wait it out so that the MYR weakens closer to the value when you've invested, you may be able to reduce the percentage.

Simulating the continuous strengthening of Malaysian Ringgit over the next 10 years.
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What happen if MYR weakens to 5? hmm.gif

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post Jan 21 2017, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jan 21 2017, 09:27 PM)
Does anyone here goes with the Warren Buffet suggestion of 90% S&P Index like VOO and 10% short term bond? Either way, what are your thoughts on this?
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For me, I prefer the 3 or 4 fund method. But my SG portfolio (including my S-REITS and UT) will have more than that. sweat.gif drool.gif 90% in S&P500 is bad idea cause if something happen to the US, your amount drops by 90%. Wipe out just like that.

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post Jan 21 2017, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jan 21 2017, 09:40 PM)
Btw, this VXUS - https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snap...ndId=3369#tab=1 is all world but does not include US. Then again, like I said earlier, their performance is really low at the moment.
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For a global fund, best to have US. You can look at the FSM MY thread regarding global funds why US is important.

These are some world index ETF
https://www.msci.com/world - MSCI World Index
https://americas.vanguard.com/institutional...QUITY##overview -VWRD

The world economy is usually resolve around US and it's policy. So if I am going for a world index, I will pick one with US exposure, then pick n ETF/UT which can beat the emerging market/asia pacific index.



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post Jan 22 2017, 01:41 AM

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Hansel

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3. Who holds the stocks? CDP or Custodian
This is generally a non-issue because most brokerage firms allow you to hold your stocks with the CDP. What this means is that while you buy and sell stocks through most firms, the stocks themselves are held by you. Currently, only two brokerage firms – Standard Chartered and SAXO Capital Markets – hold your stocks in custodian accounts. What this means is the custodian account (e.g. Standard Chartered) owns the stocks on your behalf.

This also means that they have certain rights over stocks that you have bought. Furthermore, on the very slim chance that the firm goes bankrupt, you will lose all your stocks because it is technically not in your name.
http://blog.moneysmart.sg/invest/how-to-de...s-best-for-you/

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4. Cessation Of The Custodian Will Not Affect Your Holdings

According to SCB, in the event of the cessation of custodian account service, the Bank would return the stocks back to the investors, or transfer it to another agent of client’s choice. Therefore, you should not be so worried about your stocks holding if the brokerage firm were to close down (although you really should be choosing a reputable one in the first place).
http://dollarsandsense.sg/7947-2/

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post Jan 22 2017, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Jan 22 2017, 01:44 PM)
you can include the calculation of buy ILP fund which act as feeder fund into us/world/etc fund (I know some of the local insurance company offer that in regular/single premium plan), just remember that the cost is quite high which about 5% upfront, 1.5% annual fee, and your cost of insurance and monthly fee (anyway, you can use your credit card to pay it and start with small amount).
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Paying 5% 1.5% annual fees? Better I go with SG UT at 0% SC.
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post Mar 4 2017, 06:53 PM

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rjb123, I just realised SCB SG is cheap to buy and hold ETF.

Only USD10/0.20% trade. No monthly free/custodian fee.

Much better than IB.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Mar 4 2017, 07:51 PM)
What does it take to open SCB SG trading account?
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Pick either 1
(1) priority banking with SCB SG
(2) saving plan of SGD400/month for 10 years or SGD500/month for 5 years but money is locked for 10 years. Both supposedly give you 3% return
(3) Buy UT from them worth SGD50k at 3% service charge
(4) Have mortgages with them.
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post Mar 4 2017, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Mar 4 2017, 09:39 PM)
u mean cant open other bank saving account and then open SCB SG trading account only?
must SCB SG saving account a requirement?
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Yes. that's right. To get their trading account, they will need you to open account with them. It's compulsory. I wish we could do that open use other bank account and use their trading platform.

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Mar 4 2017, 09:46 PM)
What's the AUM for Priority banking? Couldn't see it on their site.

I actually opened an account with OCBC Securities a while back but never used it as had issues linking it to my savings account.

Considering DBS Vickers as I'm interested in their FCA too, need to resolve my CDP account first as I can't remember the details after never using it  doh.gif
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SGD250k. It include any stocks/ETF that you bought drool.gif thumbup.gif
After become priority customer, don't need to pay their USD10/0.20 fees. You pay only 0.18% of what you buy/sell. drool.gif thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Mar 4 2017, 09:50 PM)
I see - so around $180K USD - quite high!
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Well with Priority banking, it beats IB hands down as everything you trade with them is counted (don't need to buy unnecessary investment product) without custodian fees, min fees.
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post Mar 21 2017, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 21 2017, 02:41 PM)
Guys,... just a thing here if you are not already aware,... since this is an ETF thread,... if you have a DBS account, you can just subscribe to one ETF via the DBS/POSB ATM ! It's as simple as that,...

Everybody can buy it,.... just need to have an ATM Card and press a few buttons at the ATM. Yeah,.. need to have some money too,....
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You are forgetting one thing. If STI is ok. If other country fund there's a maintenance fee devil.gif

There are better option to buy foreign ETFS.
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post Mar 22 2017, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 22 2017, 02:46 AM)
Well, this is one quick option that I thought of at the moment,... you can always consider to just walk to the ATM and buy this ETF when the timing is right, I'm not asking you to go buy now !
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Actually my ok = free of charge. Can buy STI and hold for free. Buy other country ETF, pay maintenance fee if don't furfilled their condition for free holding.
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 22 2017, 10:49 AM)
Appreciated the clarification, bro,...
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Waiting for 8 securities too open doors in SG and UK. That way we can buy buy UK based etf (which invest in US) without any without maintenance fees + most likely at zero cost.
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post Apr 18 2017, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Apr 18 2017, 12:33 AM)
The $10 is waived if assets over $100k USD (at least that used to be the case, haven't checked recently)
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Any US ETF listed on HK market? Something like how people buy using Ireland/LSE to avoid withholding tax.

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post Apr 18 2017, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Apr 18 2017, 12:49 AM)
There is vanguard ETFs domiciled in HK e.g. S+P 500 tracker

But HK doesn't have same agreement as Ireland with 15%WT on divs so tax wise there's no benefit.

You can buy the Ireland domiciled ETFs on other exchanges in Europe too.
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Because from what I understand, if the ETF is listed in outside of US, there won't be with holding tax (HK does not have any with holding tax). A perfect eg would be the Manulife US REIT listed on SGX. No with holding tax as it's listed in Singapore provided we prove we are not americans to our broker.
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QUOTE(nestahng @ Apr 18 2017, 04:46 AM)
Bro Ramjade

Are we able to buy US listed ETF(for example NYSEARCA: SPY) & equities(for example NASDAQ: FB) via SCB SG? How about LSE listed ETF & equities?

Appreciate your help  notworthy.gif
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Of course can. That's why singaporeans who are into ETF inveating use SCB SG as their broker of choice.
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post May 19 2017, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 19 2017, 11:38 PM)
ib is cheap for frequent trading, buy/sell.
it is not for low activity.

if u are looking for low activity, better go with local brokers.
they may be more expensive per trade but has no fixed charge.
talk to local banks/brokers, compare.
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Actually I don't think so. What do you think of brokers like tradeking, charles schwab international whihc charge ~USD5/trade?
Even better robinhood and 8 securities. Both also zero charge.

Why bother with local brokers when the following above are cheaper?
Would like to hear your opinion.
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post May 20 2017, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(helo @ May 20 2017, 01:05 AM)
Thankz so much @avfan
Yaya, I would like to hear more on this @ramjade
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1) You need to accumulate your emergency fund before investing? Have you done that? How many months did you collect?
2) Are you a trader/dividend/value investor? Different you know.
3) Are you ok with 30% tax on dividend by US govt?
4) How much are you buying each time? If USD500 one time, brokerage fees at USD4.95 already cost you ~1% return.
Let's not forget everytime you sell, you will alao be charged broker fees. The reason I put USD500 = ~RM2300 which is quite high for some one who have just started working.
5) Are you ok that each time you transfer money to US, be prepare for ~1% cut from your money
6) Combine 4) and 5) together, you already lose 2%.
7) Why choose US market?

These are questions you need to answer. If I were you just started working, I will accumulate emergency savings first. No emergency fund, no investing.

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