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Ramjade
post Jan 7 2019, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 6 2019, 07:36 PM)
Hmm.. So how? Bank in via my local public bank account? Like that TT charge expensive oh....
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Open overseas bank, use instarem and pay into overseas bank account.
Pay IB using overseas bank account in that country local currency.
Use IB own exchange to exchange to the currency you want since their currency exchange rate is way better than any fintech (cheaper)
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post Jan 7 2019, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(wt_vinci @ Jan 7 2019, 09:39 AM)
I've done a couple of transfers from MYR->SGD (IB account) via Instarem with accounts all under my own name with no issue. I've also done a few transfer from MYR->USD (TransferWise account) via Instarem then USD->EUR (IB account) via TW also with no issue . As long all accounts under your own name, you should have no issue except for a call from Instarem to confirm your transfer purpose.

Well, if I were you, I would trust no one and just do a minimum amount transfer on your own to verify the optimal route like what I did.

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Nice. Thanks for the info. Cause I read it from IB FAQ.
Ramjade
post Jan 8 2019, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 8 2019, 04:14 PM)
So easy to open overseas bank acct ????
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If PB, very easy to open. As someone said Cimb SG all online.

Not to mentioned worth TW and soon to joint the gang, Revolut.

QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jan 8 2019, 04:24 PM)
Don't think got any annual fee for FSMone. Anyone please correct me if i am mistaken
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Annual fees only applicable for unit trust/bonds/US stocks bought on FSMOne platform
Ramjade
post Jan 8 2019, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jan 8 2019, 07:41 PM)
Hi bro ! Looking forward to Revolut as well, and you are the one that recommended FSMone to me. Many thanks again.

I read that no annual fee for stocks though .

Platform Fee is charged only on Unit Trusts, Bonds Cash /SRS holdings, CPF holdings are exempted. It is accrued daily and calculated based on the daily average market value of the total Assets Under Administration (AUA); the fee will be deducted on a quarterly basis.
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FSM only good for buying SG and HK stocks.

QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jan 8 2019, 02:33 PM)
Why not FSMone? I use that for hong Kong ETFs. Seems abit easier 50hkd per transaction. So far 2 vanguard ETFs and 1 BMO.
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IB still cheaper and provide access to all markets

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Ramjade
post Jan 13 2019, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 13 2019, 07:06 PM)
ic....sad degiro macam don't like malaysian...keep insisting on IBAN....anyone succeed here?

if not, i'll go for captrader d....

amsterdam commission is 4 EUR minimum.....
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Degiro is OK if the money come from bank account in your name. Not transferwise, Instarem or revolut.
Aka must be a real bank account. Not a fintech bank account.
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post Jan 13 2019, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 13 2019, 10:27 PM)
That is why it is also risky to use fintech right? I mean, is it possible years later can get into problem with AMLA? Not sure about the mechanics of it...
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Fintech is perfectly fine to use. I have use it numerous time. If you can show proof where your money come from, no one is going to bother you.

I use fintech because I don't have access to PB. It sorts of help to level the playing field for ordinary folks. Use to be only the rich can afford cheaper rates but now with fintech, we don't need to be at the bank's mercy. They don't want to give us PB rates it's perfectly fine as fintech can give us the rate.

QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 13 2019, 10:37 PM)
i check all international bank account with UK EU...semua need monthly fee la, minimum deposit la (25k GBP!), liao....

I think Instrarem CapTrader still terbest...~
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I don't think all need min fees. I found out some bank account don't need to pay fees. The 2 questions are
1) how you going to open it as a Malaysian without any priority banking?
2) can you open it from here without flying to UK?

rjb123, hyperzz know of any white label IB based in UK instead of Germany?

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post Jan 15 2019, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(hyperzz @ Jan 14 2019, 01:52 AM)
[email=Ramjade]Ramjade[/email], I am not aware of any IB white labels based in the UK. Why would you want it based in the UK?

Whether you open the account directly with IB or through its white labels, almost everything you get, besides the fee and some requirements/conditions, is the same.
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Simple. UK is relatively tax free vs Germany. Don't know how inheritance tax and stuff will work in Germany or US as a foreigner.

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post Jan 18 2019, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 18 2019, 01:15 PM)
Apu... Instarem need interview and must be conducted in KL only? Like that how to attract customer?
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Correction. Klang Valley. Not sure if they serve penang and Johor.

If you don't want that, can always go for moneymatch. All online.
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post Jan 19 2019, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 18 2019, 09:27 PM)
oh ya...for captrader...if i pump in money d....then if i want withdraw, how? can go straight to my malaysia bank? How much forex charge they eat normally?
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Captrader won't suck your money. Your local bank will.

QUOTE(wt_vinci @ Jan 19 2019, 09:57 AM)
Moneymatch didn't allow my transaction to go through to TW account due to reasons which they did not disclose to me (ignored my questions) last time. Screw their compliance team for not being transparent and clear.

Instarem basically just sends someone to your location to check your IC details in person. Not really an interview. It's more like to fulfill the regulation requirements. Haha.

Regarding the withdrawal from IB, I haven't done it myself yet. Anyone can share their knowledge?

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Normal. Thet don't even allow people to transfer to their own account. sad.gif That's why nowadays seldom use them.
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post Jan 19 2019, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 19 2019, 12:41 PM)
then how? captrader no charge me, then how i repatriate my fund next time? confirm eat kau kau by my local bank?

any method to transfer money back with minimum forex loss?
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Use la like TW to hold your currencies. Then use TW to transfer money back to Malaysia.

I suggest test with say USD 1000 first.
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post Jan 19 2019, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 19 2019, 09:41 PM)
ic...do u mean...

RM -> instarem -> TW borderless account -> Captrader (purchase)

Captrader -> TW borderless account -> MAS bank

win?
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RM - > Instarem - > Captrader/IB.
Captrader/IB - > TW - > Malaysia bank account.


The other alternative is
RM - > instarem - > DBS multiplier account in SG - > IB/Captrader
Captrader/IB - > convert to SGD via Captrader/IB own platform exchange - > DBS multiplier - > MY bank account.

Test water with USD1k and see. If cannot jadi, you just burn the USD1k only.

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post Jan 19 2019, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 19 2019, 09:48 PM)
owh..i want hoot RM2k EUR d....itu instarem keep insist me go KL, walao....u think everyone so free go KL just to open an account?

itu moneywatch i calculate d....will eat me 1% total cost.....pain leh....

i think i just think one-way traffic first to captrader....

anyone successfully repatriate fund from captrader via TW? if repatraite straight to malaysian bank, really will eat alot by the bank?
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Where are you based in? Ask their customer service wherether they service your state or not. No need KL. Klang Valley. You can ask them come to you. Meet at KL sentral or TBS also can. You don't need to meet them. They come to you.

For me I am in Pahang. No access to to instarem. Make appointment, got 3 days leave faster go meet them (set up date, time and place to meet beforehand so just go to KL and meet them at KL sentral.) If you don't make the time for it, you will never have access to cheap rates and continue paying free money to banks.

If you transfer from TW to local bank account won't eat up so much as TW is using local Malaysian bank account to pay you.
If you direct transfer from Captrader/IB to Malaysian bank account, then yes, bank eats up big chunk of money.
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post Jan 20 2019, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 20 2019, 09:50 AM)
Bus station also can meet? Haha....ok I try....
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Of course can. My friend did it. But I met at Kl Sentral.

QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 20 2019, 09:51 AM)
Perak oh... They say no travel here... Sian dao.... Want do business but customer must travel.... Hello this is 2019
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Easier for you if perak. Take commuter to KL Sentral only.

QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 20 2019, 09:52 AM)
Tq... Will try and see how much tw eat... U very helpful hehe
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PM me if you want instarem code. brows.gif
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post Jan 20 2019, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 20 2019, 05:49 PM)
I think yr time and cost more than rm60?

Even if move RM100k, cost savings of RM600 is not life changing la. Can get.. good.. cannot get also nvm..
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If you are investing over long term, RM60 adds up. If one time, then can close eye.
Sometimes, such money need to be spend to get more savings down the road.
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post Jan 20 2019, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 20 2019, 10:50 PM)
It is precisely because of investing for the long term that this RM60 can be considered a once off cost and thus negligible. This RM60 is a once off cost for every RM10k invested.
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I think you misunderstood me. One off means you won't be paying it again. However because one is transferring money to overseas broker on a regular basis, is not a one off event. Is a recurrent event which makes senses to reduce recurrent wastage.
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post Jan 21 2019, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 20 2019, 11:16 PM)
It does not matter whether you transfer out 1 time @ 100k or 10 times @ 10k each time, the total transfer out is still 100k and you pay extra once off RM600 for every 100k .... and so on and so forth ...
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The question is why bother to pay extra when the extra saved can be used for investment? No point paying extra when you get no benefits out from it.
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post Jan 21 2019, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 21 2019, 09:17 AM)
Yes, if it is very convenient to do so but he was talking about taking a day and a trip to KL or whatever just to open account to "save" RM60....time and effort is also worth something
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10x of transferring already incur RM600 which can buy a decent meal.
Is just one day. Can make appointment, go early morning, come back at night
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post Jan 24 2019, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(hyperzz @ Jan 24 2019, 03:44 PM)
Actually travelling down to KL get Instarem account is a not a big deal.
Those who serious in managing their wealth and freedom will travel oversea to open bank accounts.
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Actuality I beg to differ as
1) we are earning RM.
2) even if you open bank account overseas, how are you going to fund it? No point have overseas bank account but can't fund it right?
-end of the day you need to transfer your RM

BTW how do you and rjb123 subscribe for rights using IB/Captrader?

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post Jan 24 2019, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(hyperzz @ Jan 24 2019, 04:13 PM)
I can't reveal too much. The world is bigger than you thought.
You made the right move yourself when you opened bank accounts in Singapore.
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I don't regret doing both.
1) opening an account in SG means I have more access as SGD is more acceptable currency
2) opening instarem account means I won't be at mercy of unfavourable Bank rates.

I just want to know the process on how to apply for rights. No point having a broker and not being able to apply for rights/Preferential offering right?
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post Feb 8 2019, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Feb 8 2019, 08:17 AM)
Hi Bro, Happy CNY / Holiday!

Understand that you have much inputs on broker to purchase overseas share (SGX/US).
Do you mind to make a simple summary that which broker has the cheapest service rate / dividend handling charges for us in Malaysia to invest in overseas market?

Thanks in advance!  cheers.gif
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The answer is here. You want the cheapest, IB/ Captrader
If you have USD100K, IB it is.

No need to pening think which broker to choose.

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