Since when did he say SKILL IS ALL?

Stop putting words into people's mouth and learn to understand and read people's posts here properly.

Stick with kitlens..I have tried the stm version and its wonderful..buy speedlight + light modifier - portrait and tripod instead.If still have extra spend on landscape filter like gnd and nd filter.

Skipping through the arguments here, I'd go with the first comment by goldfries. That 18-55mm STM kit lens should be alright for your intended use. If you're alright with second-hand, then Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (approx. RM800-900, used) might also be a good lens, IMHO. Haven't really tried a wide-angle lens, so can't comment on that.

This post has been edited by vankodoq: Nov 2 2014, 09:05 AM

goldfries shootkk

We really should just ignore that guy, he's so full of himself thinking he is all right and we are all wrong

Cannot take macro with kit lens? What if I say I did? Following 4 shots taken using EosM+22mm kit lens, RM1k combo. If I can, what says you? I am not even a professional, just a hobbyist.














and took with 18-135mm + 550D, rm2k combo.

Try reversing your kitlens bro haha.. can get even closer

The Canon 18-55mm through the BHPhoto site, the specs says it can do 1:3 macro without addon filters and tubes. I didn't know that til later when another forum says how good of a macro capability it can achieve.

yalah, those are cheap lenses, so what? I can still create good quality photos that are acceptable.

PF t.J. I did that with my 50mm before, but dark viewfinder is really hard to use, super sharp images though from that setup since the 50mm is sharp at f8 already.

Corrections, he said close-up, not macro.

browsing thru this topic really make me lolz..... TS ask for lens recommendation and come out with so many funny things


1st of all, why u want to look for new lens? what you not happy with the 18-55mm?



1. why use prime lens to take so called close up? that never a must
2. who tell u DSLR is a must for those purpose?

This post has been edited by onghy: Nov 3 2014, 11:28 AM

Already have a joker posted his 15/16 photos to justify the limitations of a lens.
As I said before, everything is created with a purpose. Like you purposely quote me just to insult me.

Just my thoughts on this, there are a few main attributes when choosing a lens

1. Image quality - Generally speaking, this is not very important. Any decent lens kit lens included will produce sufficient quality for small print/internet/pc viewing.
2. Focal length - DUH, this of course is the first criteria of a lens
UWA - This is not a "cram it all into a scene" lens. UWA is supposed to get close to the action lens. Excellent for landscape pics that has foreground for better depth. Great also couple pics that blends into landscape.
portrait - Generally for focal length above 70mm as they create less distortion, but your creativity is your limit
3. Fast lens - Fast lens actually is getting less of importance actually. With higher ISO usability and IS, low light capture is easier. Also, you really should consider flash photography is light is a concern.
4. Bokeh - Actually I view bokeh as one of the tricks/guide for photography like rules of third, leading line etc... Very useful for portraiture because it's easier to use.

Anything else? I can't think of now. But REALLY the best lens for a beginner is a kit lens (zoom lens 18-55 etc..)

whatever, if you think you the correct one, and ppl here are insulting you by not agree with your point
closed, i wont reply you anymore

there are more factors to consider, the weight of the lens, size of the lens, ur budget, lens distortion...
bokeh actually is a by product of wide aperture and focal length, we cant eliminate it, so we include bokeh in composition. a lot of time, bokeh will cause failure to a picture

This post has been edited by onghy: Nov 3 2014, 04:07 PM

Kinda same thing, depends on how you call it.

Funny to see when everyone is against you yet you call others joker instead of asking yourself if you did anything wrong, what kind of attitude is this.

Okay thanks, will compile the recommended lens and refer to it later (Except the no zoom one, not looking for that kind).