De1929

The context here is Paul talking about food offered to idols.

Do you realize the danger of just asking the HS without taking into consideration the Word?

What we hear might not be the HS but our own heart and because we already want to hear a particular answer, we will likely "hear" it.  Jeremiah 17:9 says "The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?" NLT

This is why we have to cross reference our answer back to the Word of God. It is there for a purpose, to keep us on track.

Holy. Spirit will not contradict what bible teaches, if He does, then what assurance do we have that what the bible says is really true?

If the Holy Spirit contradict the Word then how can we be sure salvation is truly by faith thru grace?
How can we be sure that God so loved the world that he sent Jesus to die for our sins?

Do you understand?

then how to differentiate your own judgement with HS? if the person said gamble allowed by HS how? he said he talked with HS. we know it's just his hallucination and illusion.

unfortunately, many churches practice this even big one. why? their purpose to make all people know the good news and they want to set new church easily rather than doing the hassle. however, they will say it's smart political move everyone will be happy. the authority got money, we can set up church easily.
why am I asking this? because one pastor just did this

Guys, I know christians are more focused on church work and debate. But I think I am suffering from depression or anxiety attacks from my break up. I am thinking of going to a psychiatrist, is it a good idea? I know drugs will temporary take away the chemical effects but in long term would it still be there?

I am also afraid of health impacts. I don't want to end up like Heath Ledger died in his sleep of overdose.

What is the church standing on taking anti depressants?

My suffering is due to the physical nature less...because of problems.

I know. i spoken to some brothers about doing charity work to help the needy, i am thinking of helping. But I don't want to commit full time. I want to flexibility, of coming whenever i can.

This is part of seeking him. Apart from that I will read the bible more often. Go back to my cg. But my cg is very intermittent, they don't often have meetings.

I am currently suffering from some anxiety problems. The devil attack me and make me think of things I should not think of. Like last night my mom say things that are potential to poison my mind, like she say "forget about her, your gf most likely is with another man, thats why she left u". Then last night I could not sleep, as my mind was bothered by spiritual attacks of memories of my ex is with another man. I try to think of God hovering above me, sending his angels to protect me, but after some time, my mind wonders of and goes back to think about her. Whole night could not sleep, come to office like zombie.

I am thinking of going to psychiatrist, I really need the drugs to calm my heart. I am a person who easily gets anxiety attack when I get broken hearted.

I have no bitterness against my ex gf. I just did not contact her anymore, because i know she wants to avoid me. But if she does send a message to me, I just be nice but no point continuing because I know she won't want to get any closer to me.

I think I have problem forgiving myself for screwing up the whole relationship not noticing that it was not getting well.

I tried to meditate on good things but going to office, my heart feels like sinking, I can't sleep, lost apetite to eat and even can't concentrate.

I know nick fujivic, I could not attend his talk back then, they were charging like RM100 per head? Can't recall. I know there r people more unfortunately than me. But i am in my late 30s, and the enemy is attacking me, because I am still awkward and single.

When I read your answer I get an impression you don't really believe in the omnipotence of God.
You do not believe that God can overcome every obstacles no matter how impossible it seems, so you have to use the way of the world to "help" God.

Don't you know when you use the way of the world, you give the enemy a foothold to attack you?

Note I say attack You, not God.

Friend, You are walking on very dangerous ground.

Don't you know when you use the way of the world, you give the enemy a foothold to attack you?

Friend, You are walking on very dangerous ground.

I know I can do all things through Christ. But I am just not doing it. Yesterday I kena spiritual warfare, I prayed and prayed, but could not sleep, i kept thinking about her.

I will try to do it tonight. I will tell you if it works.

But i telling you, I am not feeling good. People around me pressuring to get married. I am in my late 30s, I just screwed up with the only one girl i like in many years. I just feel so gutted, thats what make it worst.

Sorry I kind of an embarassment to christians. I can't believe I am just so weak willed. Enemy knows this is my weakness, I have an anxiety problems especially when I fly. When I have relationship problems, I easily go into panic mode. While all christians show salt + light capabilities to withstand obstcles, I just capitulate.

I and her are pious christians, we never slept with each other.

But deep down my heart, I am imagining some guy holding on to her...because not sure if she left me for another guy, heart pain.

RE: Next question, if our faith not enough, should the gospel preached / church building stops waiting for our faith ? no... we have GOD's grace.

You can't decide this and make a general assumption like that. There are too many experiences that will not make the statement not true. Even, we God cannot wait for our faith, wouldn't He do it Himself? Who ask you to do it? Isn't that presumptuous?

Re: to support this, bill wilson from world child church already shared this value. so i am not alone.

In an argument, you will be committing a "tu quoque" fallacy, bro.

1 year only, but i don't know why so pain.

I really don't like to answer you on this, basically you have both wheels of the Christian faith ie Recognition of who Jesus is and how we get saved,
so all these are extracurricular issues that do not affect our salvation.

I will try answer one by one

a) specifically on church building, since when does preaching the gospel get stopped by lack of church buildings? it does not compute. there will come a day in our land, no it is already here, when even churches in shoplots will be dis allowed.  does it mean we stop meeting because there is no church building? certainly not, right?

b) please stop referring to Bill Wilson and his ministry. I do not know exactly his circumstances are and what he actually does to over come them. I have the greatest respect for his street sunday school work and I am strongly against the insinuations you are making.
However, to satisfy you with a biblical example, please remember what Sarah did. By trying to help Abraham obtain a heir, Ishmael was born. look at what happened today because Ishmael is born.
My point is this, the ends DO NOT justify the means, because whatever the root is, the fruit will be.
Even if there is temporary good from the ways of the world, we cannot foretell what the actual consequences will be in the end.

c) I agree under God's will there will be no foothold for the enemy to attack. Your recommendation to make sure it is 100% under God's will is excellent.
How then do we make sure it is 100% under God's will? The answer from the HS must correspond with the instruction from God's Word, and we must have the witness in the spirit that it is right.
Even then, there is no 100% certainty because we still have to exercise Faith.
If we are only to depend on what we hear when we pray then the highest probability of it being God's will is 50% at best. (actually this is a terrible example. you cant be 50% right but i can't think of a better way to put it in mathematical terms)

You have your heart in the right place.
You have to let your brain catch up.

But right now you are making a hermeneutic statement.
This is a hermeneutic statement.

Even your sharing on the experience of grace is your interpretation of the word "grace" in the Bible. That is a hermeneutic statement.

Unfortunately I am working. Makes it all the harder. Because I have to distract myself from her, with all the heavy workload.

I hope it pass.

I tell you one story, after my 1st girlfriend (also 1 year) dumped me, I went insane. I was mentally unstable. I did not seek medical help. I could not take the pressure of work, kept thinking about her, ran into problems with my bosses. I quit, then applied another company, quit and quit again and again, ruined my job prospects. It took me years to build up my CV, to replace what I did in the past due to my mental breakdown.

Now its coming back to me again.

So do pray that I will resist and prevail in the name of Christ.

My ex girlfriend? Now friend also cannot become...I totally friendzoned by her.

Ok put yourself in my shoes. Touch wood. What if, I am just saying, what if, assuming your wife has left you? Yes you still love Jesus. But it pains your heart a lot.

Thats how I am feeling, though not as the magnitude of losing a wife.

I am not justifying how I feel, I am just reflecting how difficult it is the situation. I know a lot of people have overcome it. For me, I have a very big anxiety problem. As I said last time, during my 1st break up, I went into mental breakdown mode. I resigned from my job because I could not concentrate no more and avoided everybody for 2 years. I behaved very bizzarre, I even became paranoid that everybody was out to get me after my 1st break up. I bought a pair of fake spectacles to hide my identity. I changed job a lot. It damaged my career.

Did you got that from Dallas Willard's book?

Maybe I haven't been to the "christian gym", my muscles sagging. I have gone for bible study, participated in cg and ministries, yet my heart feels pain. Ultimate pain.

Your gym work out sound very similar to his book.

Google him up.

Guys, a question has been bugging me, and I think it would be best to ask you experts in here.. Given a scenario as below:

Let's say a marriage between a Buddhist/Agnostic guy and a Christian girl would take place.

The guy is willing to have a ceremony in the church as it is the desire of the girl (dream wedding for her consists of blessings by pastor, witnessed by family and friends, and if possible in a beautiful church). *Side note: In Malaysian society a guy has the tendency to feel the desire to have the future spouse adopt his religion, although this can be relaxed dependent on how liberal the guy is.

The guy is agreeable to this setting because, besides the fact that he is desirous to have the girl's wish come true, he also feels that all religions are sacred and come from one source, just expressed differently through various civilizations and cultures. This point of view would be similar to the Bahai faith if you have heard of it.

As the guy feels that blessings and prayers, regardless of any setting, is sacred, good, and precious, he is desirous of joining in and whole-hardheartedly praying together with the girl in the church jointly with all other Christians present, for that occasion, and for the blessings and happiness of their marriage. The guy respects, values, and treasures all blessings and prayers, especially more so when it involves this momentous occasion of marriage between them both.

That said, the guy, due to his culture and upbringing, is also desirous of having second ceremony in a temple together with his parents and extended family members, blessed by monks and a prayer ceremony. The girl agrees to be present. However, she opines that she shall just be a silent observer to whatever prayer proceedings that take place. Meaning, she won't join in recitals of prayers, or make incense offerings etc.

Now comes the problem. The guy wishes her to join in the prayers whole hardheartedly too, otherwise why be present at all? He also opines that if he was willing to wholeheartedly do the same in the church, why would the girl not be willing to reciprocate, for him? To him, a lack of reciprocity, would hint at a slight degree of selfishness and prioritizing him less than another entity.

To write it in a slightly different way for added clarity:

The guy feels that any prayer is important, and wants equal commitment from both parties to commit towards. Therefore if the girl should desire a church ceremony and blessing, he would love to pray together.

However, the girl however feels that, due to Christian belief, she shall not engage in any other from of prayers. The guy feels that this would be akin to pooh-poohing his beliefs, since to actively refrain would be synonymous of feeling that it is wrong. Thus he feels that he can also do the same if there is no reciprocity, aka feel that Christian prayers and blessings are wrong, and refrain from doing so. But of course, he would never dream of doing such a thing, as he treasures their relationship. Also, he feels that, if the girl would feel that is wrong, it is defiling the prayers and the marriage ceremony.

Thus if the above two prayer settings would occur, both parties would just be syok sendiri praying by him/herself, at the same time carrying the somewhat negative thoughts of actively refraining from the other parties' wrong practices, and not as a loving couple that prays together for gratitude happiness.

Any ways of compromising?

I've made some slight edits for added clarity, perhaps you can re-quote the post?

Hmm, and it would certainly be helpful to post some pointers and ideas.

Not Moslem, I am Buddhist/Toaist by culture but an infrequent practitioner, quite liberal, would value human relation and devotion to each other more than religion.

It's not about lying or not. That is not the issue. It's about coming together to agree towards something and upholding each others' happiness.

I thought these are characteristics of Real Christian Men:-

1. STEP UP: Lead. Initiate. Be a man of action. Assume it is your job and your moment. Hate apathy. Reject passivity.

Ezekiel 22:30

“I searched for a man among them who would build up the wall and stand in the gap before Me for the land, so that I would not destroy it; but I found no one.”

2. SPEAK OUT: Silence in the midst of sin is a sin. Be courageous. Fear God not man. Speak the truth in love.

1 Peter 3:15

But sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence.

3. STAND STRONG: Don’t give in when you are challenged, attacked or criticized. (Reminds me of de1929, though he's doing it for the wrong reasons)

I Corinthians 15:58

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.

4. STAY HUMBLE: Be vigilant against pride. Get the log out of your eye. Don’t think less of yourself, think of yourself less.

Psalm 141:5

Let the righteous smite me in kindness and reprove me; It is oil upon the head; Do not let my head refuse it, for still my prayer is against their wicked deeds.

5. SERVE THE KING: Seek first His Kingdom, His glory, His righteousness. Hope in the eternal. Live for a greater reward.

Matthew 6:33

“But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.”

http://www.watermark.org/blog/how-to-be-a-godly-man/