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post Jan 16 2015, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2015, 08:42 AM)
You want to share God's love, go ahead and share God's love, that means being kind and loving in your action.

But we're asking don't teach the wrong thing.

All of us tried to warn you but end up you call all of us here "losers"

Don't know if you know what is the meaning "muka tebal" or not.
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i think my post 1918 should gv u some baseline right ?

wanna shut down my ministry is very simple UW... cut the source... my source is GOD's grace...

discuss with Christ about my action and deeds... pray to JESUS ... and let see the outcome...

do you believe that CHRIST answers prayer ? but be surprised... CHRIST can and will discuss with you why HE use me as-is, including the teaching that you think wrong.

Pray and proof me wrong.
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post Jan 16 2015, 11:18 AM

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ah one problem spotted .. thank GOD !

The proud persona is what every single Christian must have here. Confidence, freedom, all under GOD's grace.

As most of ppl read only the last sentence, i think i better put it again here:

The proud persona is what every single Christian must have here.
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post Jan 16 2015, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2015, 09:19 AM)
...........and a few other things.
Do you know that it can stumble others when you say things like this?

Romans 14:20 (NIV) - Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.

I don't want to add more, because you'll just jump at me.
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I purposely becoming stumbling block and fully aware of it. Tq for helping me highlighted it. Yes, it has been in my thinking before i start all of these.

I know i become the stumbling block but no choice... at least when they fall, i trust you you can bring them to calvary church, and teach them the right thing how to survive in coming times, where spiritual warfare are getting more relevant then 10 - 20 years ago...

Look at how many young generation that fall into sexual temptation and stupid church leaders only say... thou shall not sin ? ...
pray for job / house / health / wealth and stupid church leader say:... GOD does not answer selfish prayer ? ...

these above are product of old-school mindset... 2015 those mindset are useless... i am here as GOD's vessel to change christian mindset here, for this i am rewarded.

and like you say: i want them to be at their best. their best according to GOD's grace.

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post Jan 16 2015, 11:52 AM

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okok... forgive me to write improperly...

i just want you to be at your best, i want you to be maximal for Christ, i want you to be prosperous and success and completing GOD's calling in your life.

sometimes because i am so impatient, i just simply comparing you to my success which is wrong... therefore i want you to follow my way, to be success like me... yet perhaps you are financially better than me heheheh....


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post Jan 16 2015, 12:39 PM

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to be honest, why bother about the word "humble"
if we cannot walk through the wall ?
if we cannot walk on water
if we even don't have experience that GOD can heal somebody when we pray, so our church leader say... oh GOD has other plan ?

meaning... i just success "little bit", share it, and you call it... not humble ?

how can our church grow and be an impact if the congregation is not success... at least like.. like me ?
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post Jan 16 2015, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 16 2015, 12:25 PM)
may I know what's the definition of your success? I think success is like beauty. They are on the eye of beholder. So success of different people will be judged differently. God will not treat wealth as successful otherwise only rich people will go heaven. Even God put so many 'humble' words in bible :

Matthew 19:24

And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." 25When the disciples heard this, they were very astonished and said, "Then who can be saved?"…
matthew 5:3

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for to them belongs the Kingdom of the Heavens

Isaiah 66:2
Has not my hand made all these things, and so they came into being?" declares the LORD. "These are the ones I look on with favor: those who are humble and contrite in spirit, and who tremble at my word.

Matthew 5:10
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 19:14
Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

Matthew 25:34
"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.

Mark 10:14
When Jesus saw this, he was indignant. He said to them, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these.

Luke 6:20
Looking at his disciples, he said: "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.

Luke 22:29
And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me,

Luke 22:30
so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

James 2:5
Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him?

Revelation 3:17
You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.
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to make it simple, JESUS gave me feedback on my yesterday activities. How, cuz i ask HS. So when JESUS say "I AM pleased with what you did yesterday", then i called it success...

being rich / poor is not relevant
being a silent reader / outspoken is not relevant
being humble / not humble is not relevant

cuz when ppl think humble, maybe HS does not think humble
cuz when ppl think not humble, maybe HS thinks it's sufficient


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post Jan 16 2015, 02:12 PM

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yayaya... keep pointing my mistakes right ? if paul can say imitate me ... i cannot ?
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post Jan 16 2015, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2015, 03:42 PM)
Nothing wrong.

You must remember Paul was an Apostle chosen by Christ himself.

Paul says to imitate him just as He imitate Christ sure but we must understand imitate in what sense?

If you see from all his letters, He is always pointing people to Christ, the things about God.

People are recognized based on the fruits that is in their life.

If you think you have that standard, then sure, by all means.

Paul has proven himself faithful to the Faith to his dying day.

Have you live up to such standard as Paul has?

I dare not even ask anyone to imitate me because I know I'm flawed in many way. That I am willing to acknowledge. What about you?
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i want to give hope, at least before lowyat reader become like paul, become like UW first... then before become like UW, become like me first...

i am success, prospered and try to finish my race for CHRIST, follow me first lah.... next time become like UW, finally can become like paul.

simple right ? why always look at negative side
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 16 2015, 02:56 PM)
then it means you don't bother about bible? each word in bible we should understand on it.
so can you evade from death while death is certain? only Jesus can save us from death which we will live forever. If he is humble, why shouldn't we? I am afraid satan church aka lucifer affect your doctrine. or is it just me feel that way?
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rest be assured, one ... one of my job is to win soul, and park in church....

question: what church... so far only 3 i know in malaysia.. DUMC, CHCKL or calvary church....

is that secure enough for you ?


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post Jan 16 2015, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 16 2015, 04:31 PM)
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are you willing to death for christ? win people nowadays should be easier than last time where many martyrs died so harshly.
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honestly death is asking too much lah... you show to me first lah, i do the easier part first...

QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 16 2015, 04:31 PM)
btw, I hope many missioners win people outside skirt not win people in the city. why? I want Jesus come the world fast and we can become witness the raptures. To live in raptures world are amazing.
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nice hope... earlier i want JESUS to come fast so i can live in raptures world... but later JESUS advises me and called me selfish cuz i just focus on me, not what HE wanted biggrin.gif...

HE wants us a lot of things... best to ask HS for details... but for some churches that does not educate two-way communication with HS, winning soul is a baseline lahh....
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2015, 04:54 PM)
I know your intention is good but since almost all of your friends in here feel uncomfortable, just take break la, relax don't keep enforcing what you think is good when people is not ready to accept.
Because the more you force, the more people might resist.
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cannot... time's running out... devil and churches are getting into fierce fight day-by-day... and our friends are not thinking what GOD's think... i dunno what's in their mind... why gave priorities to unconfortable / feelings instead of just focusing on what CHRIST wants

there are a lot silent reader here.. those atheist, other religion that really hope that Christianity can answer their problem...

last but not least... i believe GOD has good plan for every reader here... both fren and not fren...
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post Jan 16 2015, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(yaokb @ Jan 16 2015, 09:15 PM)
De1929

I just like to ask you a couple of questions.
I appreciate if you can answer as simply as possible.

1 Who is  Jesus Christ?
2 how does a person get saved?

That's what I want to know from you.

I appreciate if others don't answer or comment on the answers.

Thanks.
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happy to answer

1 Who is Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ is my GOD, my Savior, my King, my fren. Of course further explanation are required. more less my teaching equals to city harvest / calvary church

2 how does a person get saved?
receive Christ as savior, and get baptist. Of course further explanation are required. more less my teaching equals to city harvest / calvary church

again, i answer simple and may not appreciate your depth of inquiry. feel free to ask more. fyi... i am more cling to pentecostal compared to traditonal church for various reason.
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post Jan 16 2015, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 16 2015, 08:01 PM)
wait..as long as believe and have faith in Jesus then no need to go church right?
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yes, but not recommended. i can walk from sunway pyramid to KLCC, but not recommended

QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 16 2015, 08:01 PM)
I mean how about people who was born before Jesus come such as Confucius. He always believe there is God although has has never been to church. Maybe in raptures time he has faith in Jesus. who knows?
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hmm... i don't know... fyi, i am a business man, not pastor. most of my teachings are for lay-man who want to resolve day-to-day problems... cling to JESUS feet is the best place hehehe... i think u know what i mean brows.gif


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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 16 2015, 07:41 PM)
Suit yourself, was trying to help you and protect you from further embarrassment.

Since you don't really care what this friend is trying to do, you are on your own.
You're still welcome to seek my advise in PM if you wish. Take care.
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thx ya braderrrrr biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 17 2015, 12:41 AM)
How long have you been in Malaysia? You only know these 3 churches?
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i am not a church shopper lahh....
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Choose Life — One Day at a Time

“Every day I will bless You, and I will praise Your name forever and ever.”
(Psalm 145:2, NASB)

Christians experience daily obstacles and struggles. But even though you aren’t immune to life’s day-to-day challenges, you have the power of Jesus Christ to overcome them! His power is available every day to help you win not only the big battles, but the little daily battles as well.
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 18 2015, 09:06 PM)
I just got dumped in a relationship. Sigh....I know there's light at the end of the tunnel. But some how Jeremiah 29:11 doesn't seem to ring in my ear.

I do yearn to be married and settle down but these things seem to be the toughest in the world.

Now I just sit down at home, wondering aimlessly not sure what to do. Even going to church seem depressing. My life is not moving at all for the last 2 decades.
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what church ? have you tried city harvest in sunway ?

http://www.chc.org.my/
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post Jan 18 2015, 09:42 PM

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Let's take UW message (on the second spoiler), about adam's sin, to another level.

Forbidden Fruit (Genesis 3:6)


This fruit, enable you to think what is right / wrong, good / evil.

In short we agree GOD does not wants you to eat this fruit, so you can simply obey. Obey, without justifying what is right or wrong, or good / evil.

The right thing is ask HS. Always ask HS and don't think right / wrong. If HS gives you instruction, just obey. And your life will be much simpler and happier.

Why, Because HS instruction gives you provisions.

But right / wrong never gives you provisions. It's only gives you fake sense of righteousness.

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if you recalled user amosai once shared how his church has to do bribing so his evangelist team can minister... if HS approves... then bribe lah... cuz there is provision in that. Don't worry be happy... cuz it's GOD that approves and endorse you.

if you open my first spoiler and see about bill wilson helping kids in uganda... if HS approves.. then bribe lah... cuz there is provision in whatever HS approves... Don't worry be happy... cuz it's GOD that approves and endorse you.

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remember, don't get fooled like adam / eve. You are smarter. You can ask HS. if HS say yes it is yes, if HS say no it is no. don't add moral law into it. Amen !


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post Jan 19 2015, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 18 2015, 11:07 PM)
if you cannot build church in one area then after that you give money to authority so they approve the church being permitted. is that a bribe or not?
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leonhart88, if you ask UW... the answer is no.

If you ask me, i throw your question back to HS.

My teaching is simple: Ask Holy Spirit.

bible say no bribe.
bible say also everything is permissible.

If 1 verse against another verse, how to resolve ? eating more fruit of good / evil ? or ask HS, the author of the bible ?

simple right ?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 18 2015, 09:46 PM)
I don't agree, this is contradiction. One thing that is universal and all Christian denomination will agree, God will never go against his own word in the Bible.
If you say that the HS approve, it's most likely NOT the HS but own conscious.

God already mention clearly specify that He doesn't approve Bribery.
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bible oso say everything is permissible. isn't it good that bible support both our arguments ? therefore don't be too smart lah UW... ask HS, the author of the bible . Which verse to use for a given scenarios.

you are not humble you know... arrogant, and don't care about what HS think... just simply don't want to accept HS is far smarter than you.



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