Kron_ka

I have been thinking of U

Jesus say I am a good shepherd, and pastor is local shepherd in short. Congregation is sheep.

I think you know that shepherd job is take care the sheep; But do you know that's including mating aka sheep breeding ?

Why don't you talk to your pastor that you need to married somebody, and ask from him whether he has somebody that HE can introduce / recommend to you.
It looks like from my point of view devil is trying to just hinder anything about building relationship... and you are not the first one i heard this

The divine favor in pastor is naturally awesome, cuz they exercise GOD's will in this earth.

There are 2 issues:
1. The pastor shock and speechless... Well, remind him about his role as shepherd.
2. The church you have don't have your type... The pastor may have somebody not in current church, therefore don't limit GOD's miracle
3. All the girl that the pastor introduce don't have your type... oh...oh...oh...oh...oh... try the first 2 and we'll discuss later

For me, if you remove the chairs, remove the music, remove the drums, whatever, I can still worship God.
Been a worship leader, so I know which takes priority.

But as Tozer mentioned, This is not about worship styles. The issue is not traditional versus contemporary versus blended worship. It’s not about organ versus worship band. That discussion misses the point completely. This is about the heart and focus and intent of worship.

It's not an issue really, how modern or how contemporary worship music has evolved today.

The world (cosmos - one of the meaning)  is a system created by Satan.

The created things of the earth were ordained by God so that man could live for Him, but the systematized things of the world were ordered by Satan to usurp man so that man could not live for God. Satan arranged the world using the things that God ordained for man’s existence. These things have become the components of Satan’s system. He systematizes all the persons, things, and matters that God ordained for man’s existence along with some of his own inventions to organize the world so that he can usurp man.

Satan has mixed the world and the things that he invented with the things of the earth that were ordained by God so that it is difficult for man to distinguish between the two. For example, marriage, children, family, food, and other matters of man’s living are all ordained by God for his existence on the earth so that he can live for God. But Satan has taken the things that man needs for his existence and incorporated them into a worldly system in order to usurp man so that he would not be free to live for God. Originally, marriage, children, family, food, and other matters of man’s living were ordained by God so that he could live for God. Now marriage, children, family, clothing, food, and other matters have become things of the world to usurp man so that he cannot live for God.

In addition to the basic necessities of human existence, Satan also invented things that are not necessary for human living but which tempt people to the extent that they are even more fully systematized and usurped. For example, when some marry, they feel that they must ride in a decorated vehicle, have a certain kind of ceremony, or wear a certain kind of veil. Others feel they must celebrate when a child is born by eating special foods. Still others feel that they must wear special clothes in celebration of a new year or other festivals. None of these things are needed for human existence; they all were invented by Satan to further systematize us in relation to basic human necessities. Although marriage and childbearing are necessary for human existence, riding in a decorated vehicle, wearing a fancy veil, eating special foods, and wearing special clothes are not necessary for human living. Satan has added these items to our basic human necessities in order to further systematize and usurp us.

Depends on the content of the message, if it leads people to Christ, how can it be wrong?
God can use any form of vessels for his Glory and Work. For example, He did use heathen people like False Prophet Balaam or Persian King Cyrus.
I mean if unbelievers can be used, what more contemporary form of worship music.

If you're worried that it'll drain spiritually mature worshiper, my take is that, those who are spiritually mature will naturally seek elsewhere.
Same thing with preachers like Joel Osteen, though much criticized, but if you read testimonies on Lakewood Church web page of how people on the verge of giving up on life came back to God through his preaching, I say He is used by God. If He is used by God it also means his preaching is anointed by God.

Same thing goes to worship group like Planetshakers, HillSongs, Jesus Culture, Worship Central, Bethel Church, etc. God can use them.

What i mean is John 10:11
"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

thx for clarification, it helps me to understand more abt ppl here...

I wish zombie apocalypse would come...then yay, all the strain in the world will be forgotten because we too distracted with survival techniques.

No more need to make money..no more need to get married...no more need to work stress stress.

Then I become machine gun preacher...carry machine gun with bible...go around and preach to the last day folks while avoiding brain eating zombies.

ya of course la it is symbolic and not literal (actually some churches believe in literal aka Transubstantiation but that is another topic all together) but even symbolic also has to be some level of proper lo. Otherwise, why don't just put a cookies to represent/symbolize bread? That's why Christian shop saw this need and they sold this communion 'bread' which is without yeast also.

without yeast lo at least

wine is made of grapes or blackcurrant?

Tak ka use orange juice to represent/symbolize Jesus' blood kua?

Is not Jesus uses unleavened bread (without yeast) and wine in the Lord's supper (communion) to symbolize his body and blood?

Of course we can also use wine but due to cost factor, that wine can be replaced with 100% grape juice.

u have the point but u know any churches which uses cookies , orange juice or some other odd stuff?

More accurately it describes a very aggressive bacteria. Right now it's still quite rare, but it exists. Brb googling the term.

It's called Necrotizing fasciitis

WARNING VERY DISTURBING IMAGES Not for the squeamish at all seriously.

I didn't paste the link for a reason. Just give the name. It's all sendiri google OTL

Perhaps what you mean level of proper is: I want the symbol to be as original / authentic as possible, in order to make JESUS happy ?

a dice has 6 faces. let the dealer rolls, and it's my turn to bet

When I first came to church here, it was a Holy Communion Sunday. So they passed around this wafer biscuits.

Because I remember when I was young, my previous church they used this round sacrament and they used red wine.

Yeah, I didn't know they used grape juice in Malaysia. 

But its just symbolic. What matters is worshiping God.

Ngai (i.e. a dealer) express concern about bread / wine (i.e. that's throwing a dice).
I ask HS why ngai wrote that words. There are few answers (i.e. 6 faces of dice represent revelations). I can't disclose everything.
What i asked is different that you / UW asked earlier right ? you mention something else, i ask about something else (i.e. you did bet, i am now betting).

Now i am waiting ngai reply, whether my guess (i.e. betting) is hit / miss.

Why do you say that?

basicly i am talking in parable.

HS is holy spirit.

John 14:26Amplified Bible (AMP)

26 But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your remembrance) everything I have told you.

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Up to here it should explain 2,3,4,5

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let me know if more information needed.

Its like 3 or 4 houses.

I dunno, I just trying out, I suppose its no harm trying even if my role doesn't match God's plan for org asli...I am sure the grace of God will find me a way to fit in or learn to be a better person out of it.

I kind of confuse, I not sure what u trying to say. Sorry...

Err noted your suggestion, Deadlocks.

I am suffering some depression and anxiety problems. A lot of people here have come out to help me and show their christian kindness and compassion towards me.

If I were to treat de1929 like this, then I would feel quite guilty because Jesus have shown his compassion through his people to me, but I in turn show my ignorance to de1929.

I understand what you mean.

Err, just want to say, we shuld be kind to all even though they can be quite annoying to sone. I have that weakness as well, I hope I am not unkind to others.

But bubur is porridge right?

bubur cha cha.. what is that? Dancing porridge?