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tinarhian
post Jan 24 2015, 06:28 AM

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post Jan 24 2015, 06:39 AM

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Dear God,

Oh, God, you are the creator and ruler of the whole universe. We commit our lives and trust in your Holy name.

Teach us to learn and understand your Word. I pray that others find meaning in their life, to seek Him which promised Eternal Life and salvation.

We give thanks for all the things that you have provided for us. Thank you for protecting me all the time.

Please help me to deal with annoying persons in my life.

I pray all this in Jesus name.

Amen.


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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 24 2015, 06:39 AM)
Dear God,

Oh, God, you are the creator and ruler of the whole universe. We commit our lives and trust in your Holy name.

Teach us to learn and understand your Word. I pray that others find meaning in their life, to seek Him which promised Eternal Life and salvation.

We give thanks for all the things that you have provided for us. Thank you for protecting me all the time.

Please help me to deal with annoying persons in my life.

I pray all this in Jesus name.

Amen.
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de1929
post Jan 24 2015, 07:39 AM

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Good morning malaysia !

Go spread the gospel icon_rolleyes.gif ... build churches thumbup.gif

please ask HS approval first. remember HS can say yes for your case, but no for their case. Because GOD always see bigger picture.

Good intention without HS approval is not a blessed journey.

The problem is, 99% of our ministry requires blessing from GOD, especially during spiritual warfare.

Therefore go... join me in the warfare... battle is already going on and there is casualties... of course be realistic lah... but the important reality is JESUS is leading the spiritual warfare... so wanna find JESUS ? find him in the spiritual warfare... HE and his churches are busy.. come..come..come..
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post Jan 24 2015, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 23 2015, 11:36 PM)
can you and all lawyers here confirm that you know 100% of GOD's knowledge ? answer is no.

the conclusion is, you know only partial truth... partial truth is not truth at all

therefore use faith for grey areas... because, what else you can propose ?
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Lawyers? laugh.gif Then you are what? Self claim winner?

The Bible is 100% God's knowledge. I can rest and trust in it. There's no partial truth. Either it's the truth or it's not.

Gray areas? Give example then we talk. Bribe does not fall under gray area. It's written very clear, God is against Bribing.



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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 23 2015, 11:36 PM)
can you and all lawyers here confirm that you know 100% of GOD's knowledge ? answer is no.

the conclusion is, you know only partial truth... partial truth is not truth at all

therefore use faith for grey areas... because, what else you can propose ?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 08:06 AM)
Lawyers?  laugh.gif Then you are what? Self claim winner?

The Bible is 100% God's knowledge. I can rest and trust in it. There's no partial truth. Either it's the truth or it's not.

Gray areas? Give example then we talk. Bribe does not fall under gray area. It's written very clear, God is against Bribing.
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read carefully.

You, not bible.
lawyers not bible.

The devils are tricking you all, thinking you know bible = you know GOD... it's wrong... knowing GOD never hit 100%...

there are new knowledge of GOD every morning.

This is the basic spiritual warfare, that is, our bible knowledge never hit 100%, because nobody measures GOD in the labs before.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 08:11 AM)
read carefully.

You, not bible.
lawyers not bible.

The devils are tricking you all, thinking you know bible = you know GOD... it's wrong... knowing GOD never hit 100%...

there are new knowledge of GOD every morning.

This is the basic spiritual warfare, that is, our bible knowledge never hit 100%, because nobody measures GOD in the labs before.
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Why don't you read carefully? I'm not a lawyer.

Whatever new "knowledge" cannot replace or contradict the Bible.


That is something that nobody can dispute.


*The devil is also tricking you, making you think this is about competition about who is better. Using your pride to motivate you.


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yaokb
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a Good Morning to all.

It s a beautiful day,
Let us take a moment to enjoy the goodness of God to our lives and leave all bickering aside.

I want to formally apologise to DE for opening this can of worms about donkeys, it was made in jest without malice. So please forgive me.

I also appeal to all to give each other the respect due to each other.

This forum will be much more beneficial to all if we respect one another.

There are many people contributing post here, each of us have a different knowledge and experience of God.

Instead of focusing on the differences, it will be more productive to focus on the similarities.

Let's leave it to God to judge us on our words and actions.

Have a happy day everyone!
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 08:14 AM)
Why don't you read carefully? I'm not a lawyer.

Whatever new "knowledge" cannot replace or contradict the Bible.
That is something that nobody can dispute.
*The devil is also tricking you, making you think this is about competition about who is better. Using your pride to motivate you.
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when anybody put moral law to hindrance spreading of gospel, you became lawyer.
take it further about bribing. If you became dogmatic bribing is wrong, you became lawyer.

then you are not in rest with calvary church leadership when they procure permit to build bukit jalil church (feel free to convince me bukit jalil is bribe free)
then you are not in rest with all the minister here that bribes authority to minister to anywhere in this earth

it's fine... you stay with your conviction,

me, calvary church leadership, and all minister that do bribing for gospel we have CHRIST that defends us... while all the lawyers washed their hand telling we don't have faith...

in CHRIST there are exceptions, and we called it GOD's grace.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 08:26 AM)
when anybody put moral law to hindrance spreading of gospel, you became lawyer.
take it further about bribing. If you became dogmatic bribing is wrong, you became lawyer.

then you are not in rest with calvary church leadership when they procure permit to build bukit jalil church (feel free to convince me bukit jalil is bribe free)
then you are not in rest with all the minister here that bribes authority to minister to anywhere in this earth

it's fine... you stay with your conviction,

me, calvary church leadership, and all minister that do bribing for gospel we have CHRIST that defends us... while all the lawyers washed their hand telling we don't have faith...

in CHRIST there are exceptions, and we called it GOD's grace.
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This has nothing to do with hindering the spread of the gospel but acknowledging in your heart and mind that sin is wrong.

God's Grace does not change that.

The purpose of God's grace is to lead people out of sin, not cause anyone to remain in it or to say never mind or even to love sin.
It's there for people who don't know how to get out of it or don't have the strenght.

Not for people like you to turn it into license to do whatever you want as you so believe when you say "everything is permissible"
If that is the case then killing is also no longer wrong. Then you'll tell me watching pornography is also not wrong. Why don't you tell me now visiting prostitute is also not wrong, it doesn't kill anyone.
You can go on further to use "In christ there are exception" to everything that you like or don't like, according to your whim and fancy.

That is not what Christ teaches.

Don't talk about what is small sin or big sin, they are all sin.

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yaokb
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QoCXKPh9Zw


This is pastor Mark Gungor.
His teaching will help those having trouble understanding their better half. Good viewing even if you are still looking for a life partner.
This is just an excerpt. You can view the full video on Youtube.

Enjoy.

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 08:36 AM)
This has nothing to do with hindering the spread of the gospel but acknowledging in your heart and mind that sin is wrong.

God's Grace does not change that.

The purpose of God's grace is to lead people out of sin, not cause anyone to remain in it or to say never mind or even to love sin.
It's there for people who don't know how or don't have the strenght.

Not for people like you to turn it into license to do whatever you want as you so believe when you say "everything is permissible"
If that is the case then killing is also no longer wrong.

Don't talk about what is small sin or big sin, they are all sin.
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David kills right ?


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post Jan 24 2015, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 08:39 AM)
David kills right ?
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David also lusted bathsheba right?

He also murdered bathsheba husband.

So murdering and lusting is not wrong?

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post Jan 24 2015, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 08:42 AM)
David also lusted bathsheba right?

He also murdered bathsheba husband.

So murdering and lusting is not wrong?
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david didn't counsel urim and thummin before lusted... so wrong
david counsel urim and thummim before killing philistine ... so it's fine.


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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 24 2015, 08:54 AM)
Yes, just as what you said when you quoted Philippians 4

We should all pray fervently for the peace of God to come among us.

Thanks for your tip on that, I have been able to handle my problem better. Yesterday I slept ok ok.

Now I am moving on...yesterday I asked a cell member if I could help out an org asli ministry, he said he would provide the contact no.
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Good for you Kron_ka

You are taking the 1st mouthful well.

The YouTube video will help you. View it and go to you tube view the full session.
Have a good laugh and learn along the way.
That is the second mouthful. Learn to laugh. Enjoy each experience as it comes along.

Always remember Jesus loves you and the Holy Spirit is watching over you to protect you.
You don't need to bear this burden yourself. Just release it to God.

When I am face with frustration I say, God I can't take it la. Please take care of it.
Then I just drop it and do something I find relaxing.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 08:59 AM)
david didn't counsel urim and thummin before lusted... so wrong
david counsel urim and thummim before killing philistine ... so it's fine.
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So today, If suddenly you hear god's voice asking you to kill your neighbour, will you do it?
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 24 2015, 09:06 AM)
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So today, If suddenly you hear god's voice asking you to kill your neighbour, will you do it?
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yes, if i have ticket to indonesia and disappear in china so i will not go to jail in malaysia.

i have measure of faith... if GOD didn't give me strength / skill / ticket to disappear from killing my neighbour, than confirm it's not from GOD.

I believe GOD is my provider, that's my faith... here is the test, if there is no provision, then i will not do it.

I think i already wrote in other posts... GOD's will is GOD's bill....

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 24 2015, 09:06 AM)
Yaokb gave some valuable advice...now I am feeling better.

My heart was beating a lot...worry all the way before this. Then Yaokb told me to look at things positively, positive faith. Would I be correct to say, whenever I think things will work out for me in God's favour, my prayers be answered?

Yesterday I slept better, I thought of all positive stuff. Like the people whom I know who work hard for God in the ministries, the good things they do, I just thought about it before I go to sleep. I feel I am the driver of my body. I am like driving a car. If I am worried and panic, the car will be swerving left and right. If I am thinking positive and focus on the good stuff and teachings of the Lord, my car is stable.

Yeah, I know the Enemy will try to feed my mind with negative thoughts, especially about my ex. When the enemy told me, hey your ex is going out with other guys...I just block it out and say, so be it, good for her, if she finds someone she is happy with, I am happy...I forgive and let go...I don't own anything, only by God's will he gives me what I need. Perhaps next time when I get into a spiritual attack, I should tell the Enemy...In the Name of Jesus....I bind you and cast out your evil words.
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Yes.

Because ,For example, a cancer patient who is an atheist can think with all the positivity that he wants, but that doesn't his condition.

A Believer who thinks positive for his condition will likewise cause nothing to happen.

But

A Believer who puts his Faith in God, now that's basically the privilege you have, as highlighted in bold above.
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 24 2015, 09:06 AM)
Yaokb gave some valuable advice...now I am feeling better.

My heart was beating a lot...worry all the way before this. Then Yaokb told me to look at things positively, positive faith. Would I be correct to say, whenever I think things will work out for me in God's favour, my prayers be answered?

Yesterday I slept better, I thought of all positive stuff. Like the people whom I know who work hard for God in the ministries, the good things they do, I just thought about it before I go to sleep. I feel I am the driver of my body. I am like driving a car. If I am worried and panic, the car will be swerving left and right. If I am thinking positive and focus on the good stuff and teachings of the Lord, my car is stable.

Yeah, I know the Enemy will try to feed my mind with negative thoughts, especially about my ex. When the enemy told me, hey your ex is going out with other guys...I just block it out and say, so be it, good for her, if she finds someone she is happy with, I am happy...I forgive and let go...I don't own anything, only by God's will he gives me what I need. Perhaps next time when I get into a spiritual attack, I should tell the Enemy...In the Name of Jesus....I bind you and cast out your evil words.
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Great to hear that.

Take it one step at a time, one day day at a time.

If necessary take it one minute at a time.

The victory is already ours, we just need to realize it and acquire it for ourselves.
How do we acquire it? By faith, like you did last night.
Lord I receive your love, your peace and your mercy.
And as we think about the wonderful things God already did for us we become excited about all the wonderful things He has in store for us!

I see good things ahead for you. thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif

Video at post 2456

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 09:12 AM)
yes, if i have ticket to indonesia and disappear in china so i will not go to jail in malaysia.

i have measure of faith... if GOD didn't give me strength / skill / ticket to disappear from killing my neighbour, than confirm it's not from GOD.

I believe GOD is my provider, that's my faith... here is the test, if there is no provision, then i will not do it.

I think i already wrote in other posts... GOD's will is GOD's bill....

-- answer UW question, don't add here and there --
YES
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This is the problem, De1929, you have learned wrongly and thus you believe wrongly.
This is how cult is born, this is how heresy happens.

De1929, you cannot interpret the Bible as you like.
From the answer you've given above, you are lost in your faith.
You don't know what you believe in.

You have thread beyond dangerous line.

I'm sorry but this time, you are wrong.

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