Yeah, the devil totally wants believers to store their treasures in heaven and put their hope in something eternal. Which church do you come from btw?

Decky

Did you know that devil use "Do not accumulate yourselves treasures on earth" verses to disturb the mission trip, the mission trip you talked in post 121 ?

Yeah, the devil totally wants believers to store their treasures in heaven and put their hope in something eternal. Which church do you come from btw?

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Piper is a charismatic like you and he prays in tongues I think
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Thanks UW I think I am not 'qualify' to share this topic as I am still a struggling Christian singles who is still searching for life partner.

Ok Why don't you pray and ask God whether or not what Piper is saying what God has said through the HS in his word? Then check with the Bible. I'm not saying you should accept his word blindly, but he has a reputation for being faithful to God's word!

thanks for praying for me :-) is it a prophecy? :-D

btw I'm not a care group leader le :-D

lol, what conversion class? you mean new Christians? no.

In Small Group and Youth.
Nice prophecy btw, didn't know dee is a prophet of relationship. 

lol...

Now I don't doubt that God is in control, but it's no excuse for us not to becareful in what we teach and preach. In a recent survey conducted in the US by Ligonier Ministries, it showed that more and more "christians" are believing that Jesus isn't the only way to salvation and that everyone is going to heaven. False teaching has always, and will always be a problem to the church of Christ. We should be vigilant about it (and pray about it too). Is God in control? Yes. Should we just have faith that somehow all the heresies will just disappear and sit back and do nothing? no.

and just for fun since we're on the topic of the prosperity gospel and false teachers..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA_wWmVlypg

...let's drop this..

... rise of the new atheism. God have mercy on us all! ...

Here's my testimony:

When I was in form 1 I was pretty much bullied alot in high school (partly my fault), but I met a very reasonable friend who back then, was extremely mature for a 13 y/o who stood up for me and told me off gently in where I was pissing people off. Being from a chinese church, I decided to follow him to his church because my chinese was bad. A year or so later he left Christianity on the grounds that he cannot believe that it is true because there are so many unanswered questions and stuff like that. He would be the one asking questions like "isn't this passage talking about the jews only not gentiles?" or "why did God allow so much suffering in the world", but what our youth leaders would give would be :"Just have faith and pray". I tried to answer his questions, but I couldn't; I just didn't understand Christianity enough myself so I also was wondering why on earth I'm a Christian. Many Christians my age back then wouldn't have asked this question, so I was basically struggling on my own. But by God's grace, the internet allowed me to read plenty of stuff from theologians and philosophers alike, and I found the Christian faith to be logical and reasonable, contrary to what the new atheists (i.e. back then Richard Dawkins just launched his book and youtube was on the rise so people started making fun of Christianity on YT) think.

Unfortunately, because of how the most churches would give the same "just have faith" response instead of working through the Bible, many Christians my age eventually just went agnostic/atheist. Many of my Christian friends in high school who were the most passionate in the faith, who wept and cried during altar call, just stopped everything once they were older. And let's be honest, with the media being extremely anti-Christian, more and more young people are heavily tempted to leave the faith. And let's be frank, when you're in college uni age, you just wanna have sex and enjoy life. If Christianity says no to that, then obviously you would have to choose between having sex and Jesus. For many, Jesus just didn't seem like an attractive option.

How to deal with it?

Well it's obvious from what I shared that we as christians need to be more mature in our thinking and start realizing that Christianity isn't a blind faith, IMO, it's one of the biggest reasons why atheists make fun of us so much; because we really do act like we believe in Jesus simply because our parents told us to.  And then there's this anti-intellectual culture in the church here (I don't want to attack pentecostalism, but I have to be frank that pentecostal churches tend to have this anti-intellectual culture that doesn't let their younth ask questions), that just strengthens the lie of the new atheists that Christianity is a faith for stupid people. But when I read works by CS Lewis, DA Carson, William Lane Craig and even Paul, this really isn't the case.

I mean the apostles themselves defended the faith with reason; why should we be so scared of reason and logic?  ):

What saddens and angers me the most is that the church- instead of learning from it's mistake and waking up to the reality that we need to stop being lazy in reading our bibles and in developing our knowledge of God, sees the problem and compromises: Churches start trying to use rave concerts and loud music to try to attract  all the lost people from my generation while closing a blind eye to  the fact that many of them are delighting in their sin. I'm not saying that Churches have to outright reject sinners because it is we're all sinners, but the Church is now more interested in keeping up with numbers than actually leading people away from evil and to Christ.

That's my 0.02, and I'm not the only one who sees it this way. I'm a Gen-Y-er, so I've lived through many of the things I've mentioned about myself.

Well it's connected: I brought up my background because I was personally affected by RONA. What language are you more comfortable with btw? You can campur some BM or some chinese if you want. I got a D for chinese in PMR but still boleh tahan la haha

...We love Jesus so much that we cannot tolerate him and his gospel being spat and trampled on. ...

... Look, I'm going to argue from authority: ...

I'm appealing to the authority of those who have studied the Bible more than all of us, not from a denominational standpoint

authority of Christ = Authority of Bible because it's HIS words.

Don't obey Bible = don't obey Christ.

Don't understand Bible = Don't understand Christ