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pehkay
post Jan 23 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 23 2015, 12:01 PM)
Is anyone here interested in the string theory? I have an opinion that this may be the closest, non-metaphysical way to experience God.
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Used to. I might be agreeing with Penrose and Smolin that it might not be going anyway for now. But to be fair, loop quantum gravity is still not as promising either. Or I just not read it enough.

Perhaps we need another revolution in understanding what time is, first...

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post Jan 23 2015, 05:41 PM

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Nah ... this verse lor:

Second Peter 1:20 says, “No prophecy of Scripture is of one’s own interpretation.”
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post Jan 23 2015, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 23 2015, 06:00 PM)
sorry lah like that... i don't abide to context... same like what i told UW... context is not king... GOD is... and then the word of GOD is where i based my faith...

JESUS is the king of the context. That's what i believe... so HIS WORD will overruled any context as necessary for HIS kingdom to be established.

again, ppl like me are not alone... soon or latter the peer pressure will win against whatever CONTEXT everybody put on top of GOD's word

why peer pressure ? cuz the strong one wins... it's the basic law after all...

if CHRIST abide to context then i lost lahh... i gave up and will learn from you all
if CHRIST do anything HE likes, then i win lah... then everybody just have to understand CHRIST the way i think...

we'll see lah in near future... JESUS is KING of kings.
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But what is your point of reference that Jesus is the king of the context?


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post Jan 23 2015, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 23 2015, 06:24 PM)
well,  what i know is JESUS is GOD.

GOD creates everything, including; he creates context.

Therefore i imply that JESUS is the king of the context.
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That I can continue that logic that the Jesus is the Spirit.

The Spirit is also the king of context. Then, based on this:

"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of one’s own interpretation; for no prophecy was ever borne by the will of man, but men spoke from God, being borne by the Holy Spirit.” 2 Peter 1:20-21

The Spirit borned man to write the Bible with its context.

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post Jan 23 2015, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 23 2015, 06:52 PM)
sometimes smart people always gives problem instead of solutions. exactly like this post... this only produce confusion right ?

put these 2 simple rules:

GOD is king,.
HE can say anything he wants.
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Eh? This is your logic. Simple sentences and logic. Even children can understand. sweat.gif

God is King. Jesus is King. So Spirit is also Jesus as King. The Spirit borne man and wrote the Bible.




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post Jan 24 2015, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 09:32 AM)
No i am right... you lawyers are wrong. You teach partial truth.

again post #2454 will be hope for anybody to preach the GOSPEL with / without bribery..
and don't forget, calvary church sure bribe somebody to build the biggest church in malaysia.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry72666454
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You have evidence or just hearsay?
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post Jan 24 2015, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 10:24 AM)
only common sense. feel free to prove otherwise. no need evidence.
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Lol .... the burden of proof is on you ... since you accuse first biggrin.gif
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post Jan 24 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 24 2015, 10:29 AM)
did i told you i don't like you called me das esel ?
do you know it's cursing to call people with animal call sign?

i am created in GOD's image, not donkey das esel image.

understand ? stop cursing me
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Bro, that's the thing, by your definition, they can do that to you. And it is not a problem, again by your definition. Two-way blade.
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post Jan 26 2015, 08:01 AM

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=_= .... I really thought you were making an analogy ....
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post Jan 26 2015, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 26 2015, 08:39 AM)
laugh.gif Notice why I stop replying?
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif Tell me what to do Bro.

People with rationale mind, I can handle.
People that has gone cuckoo... laugh.gif
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I already gave up long ago. biggrin.gif

It is like an obsession depicted in Malachi where Jehovah in 1:2 says, "I have loved you, says Jehovah." This is a fact. Yet the Israelites said, "How have You loved us?"

I did try to tell him that it is nothing new that I haven't seen before in the earlier histories of Pentecostal especially in China. These group of young people do genuinely believe they are free of lust/flesh (according to Spirit) and stayed together (it is permissible). And ... what a damage it was.

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post Jan 26 2015, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 26 2015, 02:16 PM)
There are Presbyterian churches that allow gay minister...
Church of Scotland voted to allow LGBT

those what happen when lawyers think "yes / no" - "yes / no" - "yes / no"- "yes / no"- "yes / no"
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That is a Tu Quoque fallacy. Why not compare with those who didn't do them? sweat.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 26 2015, 04:10 PM)
oh, because: i can't find perfect church / denomination...

That's why i focused on JESUS, and let him decide which church best for me.... i think you know what i gonna say... Ask HS biggrin.gif
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That's fine by me .... only that your previous statement doesn't stands by appealing to that.
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post Jan 26 2015, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 26 2015, 05:04 PM)
your writings discredit Pentecostal churches... so i oso discredit traditional churches...

ppl needs to know that both churches are flawed
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Er ... sweat.gif are you a little kid to have "you hit me and I hit you"?

There is nothing to discredit. It is history. Only that we learn from it.

Most of us knows that the churches are still below the standard revealed in the Word. There is no illusion about it tongue.gif Otherwise we will be the New Jerusalem already.





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post Jan 26 2015, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 26 2015, 05:46 PM)
it's called convincing ... pressing forward mentality... winner attitude biggrin.gif
only negative ppl called it "you hit me and I hit you"
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Then the Lord Jesus surely have a negative mentality:

Matthew 20

26 It shall not be so among you; but whoever wants to become great among you shall be your servant,

27 And whoever wants to be first among you shall be your slave;


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Oklar ..... that's it from me ....

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post Jan 27 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 26 2015, 11:02 PM)
So the Israeli ate manna for forty years? Wow. That's a lot of manna.

Ok, I have read the Quail from Heaven, so is it somehow related to Revelation 2:17?
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That a lot of manna tongue.gif

You are what you eat. Experientially, according to the picture in the book of Exodus, the children of Israel were destined to have a heavenly living. However, when they came out of Egypt, they brought Egyptian food with them. In typology, Egypt typified the world. Like them, we have an "Egyptian diet", a taste for the world.

During the first few weeks of their travels, they ate this Egyptian food. But when the supply of Egyptian food was exhausted, the people were troubled and began to murmur and complain. Although the shortage of food was a problem to the people, it was a cause of joy to God, for it gave Him an excellent opportunity to change the living of His people. God’s intention was to change their living from an Egyptian living to a heavenly living. God did not want merely to adjust, change, or regulate the people outwardly. He wanted to change them organically by changing their diet. When the children of Israel were in Egypt, they had many different things to eat, all elements of the Egyptian diet. However, God wanted to change their diet from many items to just one item, and that item was the manna which came from heaven.

Manna is a type of Christ. If we are honest, we will admit that just as the children of Israel were bored of eating manna, we have sometimes become bored of eating Christ as our daily food. sweat.gif
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post Jan 28 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 27 2015, 09:16 PM)
Is it because of our human nature that we are too obsessed with the worldly things?

God provided meat for them, even though they complained.
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The world (cosmos - one of the meaning) is a system created by Satan. tongue.gif

The created things of the earth were ordained by God so that man could live for Him, but the systematized things of the world were ordered by Satan to usurp man so that man could not live for God. Satan arranged the world using the things that God ordained for man’s existence. These things have become the components of Satan’s system. He systematizes all the persons, things, and matters that God ordained for man’s existence along with some of his own inventions to organize the world so that he can usurp man.

Satan has mixed the world and the things that he invented with the things of the earth that were ordained by God so that it is difficult for man to distinguish between the two. For example, marriage, children, family, food, and other matters of man’s living are all ordained by God for his existence on the earth so that he can live for God. But Satan has taken the things that man needs for his existence and incorporated them into a worldly system in order to usurp man so that he would not be free to live for God. Originally, marriage, children, family, food, and other matters of man’s living were ordained by God so that he could live for God. Now marriage, children, family, clothing, food, and other matters have become things of the world to usurp man so that he cannot live for God.

In addition to the basic necessities of human existence, Satan also invented things that are not necessary for human living but which tempt people to the extent that they are even more fully systematized and usurped. For example, when some marry, they feel that they must ride in a decorated vehicle, have a certain kind of ceremony, or wear a certain kind of veil. Others feel they must celebrate when a child is born by eating special foods. Still others feel that they must wear special clothes in celebration of a new year or other festivals. None of these things are needed for human existence; they all were invented by Satan to further systematize us in relation to basic human necessities. Although marriage and childbearing are necessary for human existence, riding in a decorated vehicle, wearing a fancy veil, eating special foods, and wearing special clothes are not necessary for human living. Satan has added these items to our basic human necessities in order to further systematize and usurp us.

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post Jan 28 2015, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 28 2015, 12:43 PM)
I sincerely think that Satan is only responsible for arousing the desires exponentially in human beings so that one is to be apart from God, and not the responsible agent of the of the inventions, innovations, and the creations of non-metaphysical stimuli in the world. And I find it rather distasteful to blame too many things on the Devil, because in the end, it is our own sins that produces the consequences we all see today, and while the Devil will be judged as noted in the book of Revelations, we too, are to be judged accordingly, and no amount of, "Oh! It's Satan's fault, not mine" can redeem oneself easily from one's own sins.
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biggrin.gif IMO, it is never always something is this and not the other. Yeah, I will amen that Satan works within us as the sinful nature but/and also without, being systematized in a world system (1 John 5:19; John 12:31; Eph. 6:12)

So, no escape ... sweat.gif

Also, the thought of absolving all blame because "it's Satan" is kinda foreign to me. sweat.gif I am always condemned when I found that I am still worldly in many aspects.

Also we will be judged on whether we experienced His full salvation in the matter of being saved from the world.

Cheers bro!
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post Jan 28 2015, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 28 2015, 03:55 PM)
Not Earth, system.
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I must be sleeping .. yeah thx

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post Jan 29 2015, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 29 2015, 12:39 AM)
But didn't Roman Catholics interpret the Lord's Supper message literally?

Jesus specifically stated that His words are “spirit.” Jesus was using physical concepts, eating and drinking, to teach spiritual truth. Just as consuming physical food and drink sustains our physical bodies, so are our spiritual lives saved and built up by spiritually receiving Him, by grace through faith. Eating Jesus’ flesh and drinking His blood are symbols of fully and completely receiving Him in our lives.

http://www.gotquestions.org/transubstantiation.html
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Yeah, they did. The Catholic do represent one extreme in that they took a physical point of view and say that once the bread and the cup are blessed, the bread changes its nature, becoming the Lord’s flesh, and the vine product changes its substance, becoming the Lord’s blood.

But there is also the other end: Some look at this from an intellectual point of view and argue that the bread and the wine have not changed in substance; rather, they are merely representations. The bread represents the Lord’s body, and the vine product represents the Lord’s blood.

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Morning! ... Thought you have a late night?

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