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post Oct 23 2014, 10:49 PM, updated 12y ago

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My friend working inside Tropicana said launching in July 2015.

Still BBB after Bayberry no BBB

With possible LRT and MRT connected, Price sure will reach sky high. sweat.gif

Anyone have any additional info?



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post Oct 30 2014, 07:25 PM

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Just received sms....preview this weekend....how much?....1500psf?
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QUOTE(tmdsad @ Oct 30 2014, 07:25 PM)
Just received sms....preview this weekend....how much?....1500psf?
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jz wonder what is their rational behind of not furnished detail via sms rather us to call the sale person....why ar?? their sale very "eng" ar??
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 23 2014, 10:49 PM)
My friend working inside Tropicana said launching in July 2015.

Still BBB after  Bayberry no BBB

With possible LRT and MRT connected, Price sure will reach sky high.  sweat.gif

Anyone have any additional info?
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I thought price drop already!
Price still reach high sky??
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post Oct 30 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(tmdsad @ Oct 30 2014, 08:25 PM)
Just received sms....preview this weekend....how much?....1500psf?
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Cant be 1500 lah. Will take donkey years to sell. Next year will be slow. If they are smart they will price it reasonably and sell the bulk of it before market suddenly turns cold. Lets wait and see
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post Oct 30 2014, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(winner takes all @ Oct 30 2014, 09:57 PM)
Cant be 1500 lah. Will take donkey years to sell. Next year will be slow. If they are smart they will price it reasonably and sell the bulk of it before market suddenly turns cold. Lets wait and see
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The most 600psf.
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post Oct 30 2014, 10:46 PM

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post Oct 31 2014, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 23 2014, 10:49 PM)
My friend working inside Tropicana said launching in July 2015.
Still BBB after  Bayberry no BBB
With possible LRT and MRT connected, Price sure will reach sky high.  sweat.gif
Anyone have any additional info?
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shouldnt this be phase 3?

QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 30 2014, 09:59 PM)
The most 600psf.
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care to explain why?
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post Oct 31 2014, 06:47 AM

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I'm not sure how the LRT 3 can add 'any value' to Tropicana Gardens unless taking the LRT to klang for BKT means something..

Cyperus is already connected with the MRT with only a few stops to KL Sentral, Dsara Heights etc..

LRT 3 is going from Klang to Shah Alam to Hicom industrial park then Tropicana side then 1U..
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QUOTE(murrayballs @ Oct 31 2014, 12:32 AM)
shouldnt this be phase 3?
care to explain why?
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Price inflated. Crashing soon.
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post Oct 31 2014, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 30 2014, 04:49 PM)
Price inflated. Crashing soon.
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most of my friends say the 2015 oversupply might happen la.. I think props heavily relying on the MRT to hold the value might be hit when they realize the MRT is 'not that big of a deal'.
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post Oct 31 2014, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 31 2014, 06:49 AM)
Price inflated. Crashing soon.
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if don't crash, how? keep going up how? if wait a few years, studio 500k pun kena beli very far away, how?
anyway, it won't be 600rm psf for that location.

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post Oct 31 2014, 03:42 PM

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wa this project RM1300psf very over priced leh
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post Oct 31 2014, 03:43 PM

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Probably price tag from Rm1300psf.
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post Oct 31 2014, 03:52 PM

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i believe tmr alot of aunty go there buy house like buying sayur ~
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post Oct 31 2014, 06:20 PM

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Where is the preview?
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post Oct 31 2014, 06:42 PM

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post Oct 31 2014, 08:31 PM

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still got 2 block is office or haven open ?
phase 1 really bbb , sapu within 3 hour open ><
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post Oct 31 2014, 10:12 PM

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the rendering and design of the mall and the 3rd tower looks a bit different now.

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post Oct 31 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(SeanFD2 @ Oct 31 2014, 03:43 PM)
Probably price tag from Rm1300psf.
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so is it confirmed? that's a 500 sft studio at 650k. betul ka?

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 31 2014, 06:49 AM)
Price inflated. Crashing soon.
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but 600psf is pushing it..kd is doing more than that subsales just fine

QUOTE(corleone74 @ Oct 31 2014, 08:43 AM)
if don't crash, how? keep going up how? if wait a few years, studio 500k pun kena beli very far away, how?
anyway, it won't be 600rm psf for that location.
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if no crash (or slight price correction rather), also wont keep going up lar
there will be a tipping saturation point where market value is reach
already ure seeing certain locations at certain pricing anything above is selling damn slow
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post Nov 1 2014, 07:50 AM

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based on d disclaimer on d brochure, 600 sqft is 700k making it Rm1.15k psf... thats with Bumi discount la.. so i expect the final prices to be from 1.15k to 1.3k psf..

good buy but bad news for bayberry buyers as the increase from p2 to p3 is limited..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 1 2014, 07:50 AM)
based on d disclaimer on d brochure, 600 sqft is 700k making it Rm1.15k psf... thats with Bumi discount la.. so i expect the final prices to be from 1.15k to 1.3k psf..

good buy but bad news for bayberry buyers as the increase from p2 to p3 is limited..
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Phase 2 9xxsft facing MRT Line...now Phase 3 9xxsft is golf view....those bought Phase 2 can jump upside down...

fortunenately din take unit at Phase 2...if not...can crying now... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Oct 31 2014, 10:12 PM)
the rendering and design of the mall and the 3rd tower looks a bit different now.
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last time was 4 blocks only...now become 5 blocks.....last last will become 6, 7 blocks...we dunno....developer just promising wann to buit hotel, offices...and bla bala...end up...will be all service apartments.... Phase 1 buyers will be very safe from now...subsequent Phases buyers now already pushed to edge of the world....who got holding power is ok...but those no have holding power can praying hard from now....ecspecially Phase 2 buyers....

Maybe can get 12xxsft with 1mil price facing golf field from Phase 1 during VP... brows.gif
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post Nov 1 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 1 2014, 11:12 AM)
Phase 2 9xxsft facing MRT Line...now Phase 3 9xxsft is golf view....those bought Phase 2 can jump upside down...

fortunenately din take unit at Phase 2...if not...can crying now... sweat.gif
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Wonder how much prices different for this 2 phases?
Wow mrt line view and golf view really huge differences. Haha
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QUOTE(Kvsual @ Nov 1 2014, 10:21 AM)
Wonder how much prices different for this 2 phases?
Wow mrt  line view and golf view really huge differences.  Haha
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think the price wont diff too much....now price already reached the peak....market sentiment not so good now...

Phase 3 heard come with fully furnised...

Golf view of course better than MRT view....

buy there for investment really will facing tough competition in subsale n rental market in future...still got a lot future developments over there...KWASA definately will pull most of investment from KD....
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Was there ... Sales is slow ...
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600 sft unit from 740k ( no view ) to 800k with view
90 percent furnished
5 percent rebate
3+2 percent after VP

No no for me
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post Nov 1 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(kuroyume @ Nov 1 2014, 11:01 AM)
600 sft unit from 740k ( no view ) to 800k with view
90 percent furnished
5 percent rebate
3+2 percent after VP

No no for me
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wow, that is expensive. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 1 2014, 07:50 AM)
based on d disclaimer on d brochure, 600 sqft is 700k making it Rm1.15k psf... thats with Bumi discount la.. so i expect the final prices to be from 1.15k to 1.3k psf..

good buy but bad news for bayberry buyers as the increase from p2 to p3 is limited..
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brudder, do you remember what was bayberry price? also 1k psf? (i actually went to showroom to browse but forgot the price)

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post Nov 1 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Nov 1 2014, 11:05 AM)
brudder, do you remember what was bayberry price? also 1k psf? (i actually went to showroom to browse but forgot the price)
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1.3k psf b4 discount...after discount about 1.1kpsf
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 1 2014, 11:26 AM)
1.3k psf b4 discount...after discount about 1.1kpsf
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Then p2 buyer will curse ...
Now this p3 almost same price but with furnished unit
But quite far walking distance to MRt station la
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QUOTE(kuroyume @ Nov 1 2014, 11:01 AM)
600 sft unit from 740k ( no view ) to 800k with view
90 percent furnished
5 percent rebate
3+2 percent after VP

No no for me
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What is 90% furnished?
5% rebate from the first 10% booking?
Then another 3+2% rebate after VP? So total 10% rebate?
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QUOTE(kuroyume @ Nov 1 2014, 11:31 AM)
Then p2 buyer will curse ...
Now this p3 almost same price but with furnished unit
But quite far walking distance to MRt station la
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yup...Phase 2 buyers now can start crying...im very lucky din buy 9xxft Phase 2 facing MRT line...even get a loan approved n forfeited 1k from booking fee...I still can celebrating now....feel very sorry for Phase 2 buyers ....


dunno Phase 2 buyers will make noise or not....mayb Tropicana will say...Phase 2 is nearest to MRT...location is the best...so price will a bit higher.. hmm.gif

can see alot projects which more than milion will facing difficult time to sell..... those wan to buy cannot get loan approved.....those can afford will wait and see.....



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QUOTE(owj @ Nov 1 2014, 11:42 AM)
What is 90% furnished?
5% rebate from the first 10% booking?
Then another 3+2% rebate after VP? So total 10% rebate?
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I not really paying Attention when they explained the furnished unit.. As the price is too steep . I lost my interests , but one thing I can confirm is they have no plaster ceiling

5 percent rebate from the 10 percent downpayment. Another 3+2 after vp ... This part I dint clarify
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 1 2014, 11:44 AM)
yup...Phase 2 buyers now can start crying...im very lucky din buy 9xxft Phase 2 facing MRT line...even get a loan approved n forfeited 1k from booking fee...I still can celebrating now....feel very sorry for Phase 2 buyers ....
dunno Phase 2 buyers will make noise or not....mayb Tropicana will say...Phase 2 is nearest to MRT...location is the best...so price will a bit higher.. hmm.gif 

can see alot projects which more than milion will facing difficult time to sell..... those wan to buy cannot get loan approved.....those can afford will wait and see.....
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developer owes got strategy to convince phase 2 or 3 buyer
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QUOTE(rainman19 @ Nov 1 2014, 01:02 PM)
developer owes got strategy to convince phase 2 or 3 buyer
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but end of the day only buyers will carry the risk cry.gif
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 1 2014, 01:15 PM)
but end of the day only buyers will carry the risk cry.gif
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 1 2014, 11:26 AM)
1.3k psf b4 discount...after discount about 1.1kpsf
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thanks.. so no difference or marginal difference in price btw p2 and p3. and p3 is better facing? OMG. Lucky i didn't book the bayberry.

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Phase 2 who tot price gona UUU in phase 3 were wrong la.. i dont think walking an extra 50-100m to d mrt station makes a big difference in the price.. cant wait to see phase 2 buyers rant.

I think early buyers of phase 3 is worth the money la.. I see this as an iconic project with possibly 3% plus rental yield.. not an investment to cover installment..
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 1 2014, 11:44 AM)
yup...Phase 2 buyers now can start crying...im very lucky din buy 9xxft Phase 2 facing MRT line...even get a loan approved n forfeited 1k from booking fee...I still can celebrating now....feel very sorry for Phase 2 buyers ....
dunno Phase 2 buyers will make noise or not....mayb Tropicana will say...Phase 2 is nearest to MRT...location is the best...so price will a bit higher.. hmm.gif 

can see alot projects which more than milion will facing difficult time to sell..... those wan to buy cannot get loan approved.....those can afford will wait and see.....
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if possible avoid buy facing MRT above ground Line, very noisy. I have stayed for 2 year before in such a unit. 530am every morning rudely woken up.

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Haha, As of 3.30pm sales is not even 20%.....

I think the market is really slow now......

Overall concept is not bad, fully furnished with price tag 1.1k psf, is a good buy compared to Bayberry.....Not sure if Bayberry homebuyers will jumped into Tropicana or not.......

Personally I love their mall design, hopefully there is no suddenly changes upon completions......but P1 & P2 might have some issues as their block below will have 24 hours al-fresco dining, including pubs......therefore, still Cyperus is better for me to keep peaceful sleep at night.....
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 1 2014, 03:21 PM)
Phase 2 who tot price gona UUU in phase 3 were wrong la.. i dont think walking an extra 50-100m to d mrt station makes a big difference in the price.. cant wait to see phase 2 buyers rant.

I think early buyers of phase 3 is worth the money la.. I see this as an iconic project with possibly 3% plus rental yield.. not an investment to cover installment..
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the integration project with shopping mall now day bcome very common....but the shopping mall can liveable also depand on many factors.....not all will success....for TG the plus point is MRT station just right in front of the mall....

but the noise pollution will be unknown issue that will haunted buyers before completion of MRT...

better buy unit facing golf field...but noise from ground 24 hours al-fresco dinning & pubs also will give negative impact... really need to carry proper study on overall concept of the project before booking....

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 1 2014, 04:45 PM)
Haha, As of 3.30pm sales is not even 20%.....

I think the market is really slow now......

Overall concept is not bad, fully furnished with price tag 1.1k psf, is a good buy compared to Bayberry.....Not sure if Bayberry homebuyers will jumped into Tropicana or not.......

Personally I love their mall design, hopefully there is no suddenly changes upon completions......but P1 & P2 might have some issues as their block below will have 24 hours al-fresco dining, including pubs......therefore, still Cyperus is  better for me to keep peaceful sleep at night.....
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a big slap in face of Tropicana.... tongue.gif

no internal purchase or VIP booking?...

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Phase 1 sapu lap lap leng

Phase 2 sapu not so leng

Phase 3 sneeze oso can hear.

Market slow kah or even sticker game kennot help?

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Nov 1 2014, 05:38 PM)
Market slow kah or even sticker game kennot help?
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perhaps true market forces already at work

anyhoo for interested buyers why not consider the strand residence?
seems much more value for money compared to TG residence
the strand IS walking distance to MRT, believe me as I walk the same distance daily (from rapid kl bus drop off to my house) plus the walkway is safe with many shops in between, unlike some dark alleys elsewhere
and and the strand mall is NICE..granted crowd is low, so its a problem if ure a commi tenant
but for residence point of view its an extremely nice mall

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To be honest ... Today sales agents told me confirmed tenant is GSC, And Mc Donald ( as if very grand )....
Currently isetan still in discussion , but I doubt that since they had established inside one Utama....

This mall is a very important factor for the whole project
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QUOTE(kuroyume @ Nov 1 2014, 06:13 PM)
To be honest ... Today sales agents told me confirmed tenant is GSC, And Mc Donald ( as if very grand )....
Currently isetan still in discussion , but I doubt that since they had established inside one Utama....

This mall is a very important factor for the whole project
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no doubt, proper mall tenant mix is the key factor to the mall.
unless Trop willing giv in alot subsidy to anchor tenant
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QUOTE(kuroyume @ Nov 1 2014, 06:13 PM)
To be honest ... Today sales agents told me confirmed tenant is GSC, And Mc Donald ( as if very grand )....
Currently isetan still in discussion , but I doubt that since they had established inside one Utama....

This mall is a very important factor for the whole project
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Wah, so fast confirmed tenants with GSC? McD no surprise la, as most of the big mall sure have McD.

But think TG might be positioned it as higher end niche market malls, as now we can see there are 2 upcoming malls in Damansara Uptown and Damansara Jaya is doing the same I think.......

But was heard Sunway group might planned for a large scale mall in the KD area.....any sifu heard about this?
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[quote=bigman,Nov 1 2014, 05:17 PM]
a big slap in face of Tropicana.... tongue.gif

no internal purchase or VIP booking?...
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This is the screenshot I took around 3.30pm.....

Not sure about VIP booking, but I think a lot of peoples will be surprise with the Cyperus price tag, even myself, as every one predict it will be reached 1.5k psf, but now selling 1.1k psf after discount and fully furnished....

Haha, was wonder anyone still believe in real estate negotiators, SA and developers sweet talk about buy property will have "big ROI"? LOLs......


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Pity then . The 8 ,18 ,28 and 38 is all reserved by then selves ... So the total units confirmed less than 50 units 12.5 percent ...
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Dijaya (TC) is damn stupid with the price strategy of cypherus for not much higher then bayberry because

1. It is definitely upset bayberry buyer.
2. Dijaya (TC) loss it's creditability to bayberry buyer which rush them to sign the spa within 2 weeks by giving them the impression that the price will increase a lot soon.
3. Anyone buy cypherus now has no guarantee that there will be price increase at official launch and/or phrase 4 launch. Worse still if the price drop. They will be upset like bayberry buyer.
4. Since there is no bbb with current price might as well increase to make it more prestigious so that it doesn't look bad on Dijaya (TC).

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QUOTE(cikapeng @ Nov 1 2014, 07:15 PM)
Dijaya (TC) is damn stupid with the price strategy of cypherus for not much higher then bayberry because

1. It is definitely upset bayberry buyer.
2. Dijaya (TC) loss it's creditability to bayberry buyer which rush them to sign the spa within 2 weeks by giving them the impression that the price will increase a lot soon.
3. Anyone buy cypherus now has no guarantee that there will be price increase at official launch and/or phrase 4 launch. Worse still if the price drop. They will be upset like bayberry buyer.
4. Since there is no bbb with current price might as well increase to make it more prestigious so that it doesn't look bad on Dijaya (TC).
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QUOTE(kuroyume @ Nov 1 2014, 06:34 PM)
Pity then . The 8 ,18 ,28 and 38 is all reserved by then selves ... So the total units confirmed less than 50 units 12.5 percent ...
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They are silly to mark the entire floor in red, how pathetic.


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QUOTE(kuroyume @ Nov 1 2014, 11:01 AM)
600 sft unit from 740k ( no view ) to 800k with view
90 percent furnished
5 percent rebate
3+2 percent after VP

No no for me
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800k for 600sft LH, quite amazing.


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QUOTE(cikapeng @ Nov 1 2014, 07:15 PM)
Dijaya (TC) is damn stupid with the price strategy of cypherus for not much higher then bayberry because

1. It is definitely upset bayberry buyer.
2. Dijaya (TC) loss it's creditability to bayberry buyer which rush them to sign the spa within 2 weeks by giving them the impression that the price will increase a lot soon.
3. Anyone buy cypherus now has no guarantee that there will be price increase at official launch and/or phrase 4 launch. Worse still if the price drop. They will be upset like bayberry buyer.
4. Since there is no bbb with current price might as well increase to make it more prestigious so that it doesn't look bad on Dijaya (TC).
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phase 2 alr set the benchmark, never think of phase 3 or 4 price point
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a big slap in face of Tropicana.... tongue.gif

no internal purchase or VIP booking?...
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This is the screenshot I took around 3.30pm.....

Not sure about VIP booking, but I think a lot of peoples will be surprise with the Cyperus price tag, even myself, as every one predict it will be reached 1.5k psf, but now selling 1.1k psf after discount and fully furnished....

Haha, was wonder anyone still believe in real estate negotiators, SA and developers sweet talk about buy property will have "big ROI"? LOLs......
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mayb will go to sales gallery to give a big laugh on them....say.." what a bravo sales!!!" rclxms.gif thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif
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Sold out?
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 1 2014, 11:32 PM)
mayb will go to sales gallery to give a big laugh on them....say.." what a bravo sales!!!" rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif
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you should asked them. what is TG" expectation mgmt plan" lol
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 1 2014, 06:19 PM)
Wah, so fast confirmed tenants with GSC? McD no surprise la, as most of the big mall sure have McD.

But  think TG might be positioned it as higher end niche market malls, as now we can see there are 2 upcoming malls in Damansara Uptown and Damansara Jaya is doing the same I think.......

But was heard Sunway group might planned for a large scale mall in the KD area.....any sifu heard about this?
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still shopping mall....in 5 km radius will be 10 shopping malls..what the .... rclxub.gif
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this price can buy nice condo at kl city centre near trx + walking distance liao lor.
no need take mrt, no need to drive+ find parking.

what for pay so high price still need to take mrt go to kl city..

want shopping centre. 1 pavilion kl mall already beat this upside down.

golf club...cheh. RSGCC anytime better lar.

ikea pj? cochrane ikea x3 bigger.

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Nov 1 2014, 10:36 PM)
you should asked them. what is TG" expectation mgmt plan" lol
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give another 20% discount...or the price adjust to same as Phase 1.... then I will be first person to place a booking tomolo morning.... tongue.gif

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sohai betul, with this kind of prices in p2 p3, I better go buy KLCC or BB area.
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give another 20% discount...or the price adjust to same as Phase 1.... then I will be first person to place a booking tomolo morning.... tongue.gif
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I onli can afford with 70% discount. cry.gif pls ask 70% la.
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Haha chill chill brother and sister .... Pray for them .... Hopefully they come out with some new package
Maybe buy one free one ?
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I onli can afford with 70% discount. cry.gif  pls ask 70% la.
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if discount 70%..tonight i will tranfer money to their account... flex.gif
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QUOTE(rainman19 @ Nov 1 2014, 10:26 PM)
phase 2 alr set the benchmark, never think of phase 3 or 4 price point
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Not gung-ho only, but greedy

But if u have been to the dinner preview they had the nite before the launch of phase 2, tropicana was so confident based on the feedback that they could have adjusted the price list that night itself
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1KM away there is built then sell freehold 9 bukit utama condo with 2k sqf sell at 1mil plus but still not sold out...
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If less than 20% booking on first day, this must be worst highrise launch in tropicana history

Normally insider already exceeded 20%
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If less than 20% booking on first day, this must be worst highrise launch in tropicana history

Normally insider already exceeded 20%
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Phase 2 price jumped too aggressive from 8xxpsf to 11xxpsf....well phase 2 has dibs. Now ada FF lol.
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curtain up for property crash in malaysia???
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Cannot make a sweeping statement...but to me for prudent investment stay away form a project which set record breaking price in a particular area

When TG phase 2 was so successful, unsold units at nearby KD area like Encorp straight away increase price to catch up...
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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Nov 1 2014, 11:45 PM)
Phase 2 price jumped too aggressive from 8xxpsf to 11xxpsf....well phase 2 has dibs. Now ada FF lol.
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For 4 years project, DIBS is roughly worth 7 % so should be quite close with the value of FF

But for the 9xx sf units of phase 3 to have golf view while those of phase 2 none and the pricing maybe only marginal higher, those phase 2 buyer will be banging head against wall
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QUOTE(frozenne @ Nov 1 2014, 11:57 PM)
RM1.3k minus 10% reabte still RM1.17k psf, how get RM1.1k so low?
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 1 2014, 03:15 AM)
the integration project with shopping mall now day bcome very common....but the shopping mall can liveable also depand on many factors.....not all will success....for TG the plus point is MRT station just right in front of the mall....

but the noise pollution will be unknown issue that will haunted buyers before completion of MRT...

better buy unit facing golf field...but noise from ground 24 hours al-fresco dinning & pubs also will give negative impact... really need to carry proper study on overall concept of the project before booking....
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Ya so many people bought MRT props without knowing wthr the train will be as noisy as the LRT or not...
Nowadays all projects are integrated.. TG's mall can do WELL if Tropicana hires a leasing company like Land Lease or other companies to position the mall as KD's preferred mall... if this mall is only gona end up with the usual MCD kfc and the likes, better scrap the mall tongue.gif

Still feel CYPERUS isn't too bad being a Fully Furnished condo.. a much better deal than bayberry flex.gif
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i think will be like another tropicana city mall ><
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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 2 2014, 12:37 AM)
i think will be like another tropicana city mall ><
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 2 2014, 12:30 AM)
Ya so many people bought MRT props without knowing wthr the train will be as noisy as the LRT or not...
Nowadays all projects are integrated.. TG's mall can do WELL if Tropicana hires a leasing company like Land Lease or other companies to position the mall as KD's preferred mall... if this mall is only gona end up with the usual MCD kfc and the likes, better scrap the mall  tongue.gif

Still feel CYPERUS isn't too bad being a Fully Furnished condo.. a much better deal than bayberry  flex.gif
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Burt just wonder how their fully furnished will looks like? As of now, there are no any artist impression or show unit to illustrate how their fully furnish will looks like....
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 2 2014, 12:30 AM)
Ya so many people bought MRT props without knowing wthr the train will be as noisy as the LRT or not...
Nowadays all projects are integrated.. TG's mall can do WELL if Tropicana hires a leasing company like Land Lease or other companies to position the mall as KD's preferred mall... if this mall is only gona end up with the usual MCD kfc and the likes, better scrap the mall  tongue.gif

Still feel CYPERUS isn't too bad being a Fully Furnished condo.. a much better deal than bayberry  flex.gif
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Burt just wonder how their fully furnished will looks like? As of now, there are no any artist impression or show unit to illustrate how their fully furnish will looks like....
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QUOTE(rainman19 @ Nov 2 2014, 12:40 AM)
fren, give ppl some chance la
mayb they tie up with CLand leh
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So far I know their Metropark mall will be tied up with SG counterpart, but not sure for this TG
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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 1 2014, 10:37 AM)
i think will be like another tropicana city mall ><
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oh ya funny how even if Tropicana City isn't doing well/is not a good mall, but Tropics is still so 'expensive'..
I feel buying a new TG apartment is much btr than buying Tropics cos this area got more FnB, things to do etc drool.gif
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how many cinema in this area ><
one utama, the curve , citta mall , tropicana mall , paradigm mall , the strend mall ..
now TG got cinema also...
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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 2 2014, 12:56 AM)
how many cinema in this area ><
one utama, the curve , citta mall , tropicana mall , paradigm mall , the strend mall ..
now TG got cinema also...
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see you name all the mall....sibeh scary liao...
can include icon city mall, sunway pyramid and curve cine-leisure?

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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 2 2014, 12:56 AM)
how many cinema in this area ><
one utama, the curve , citta mall , tropicana mall , paradigm mall , the strend mall ..
now TG got cinema also...
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Haha, soon cinema also will bubble......lols....
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Haha, soon cinema also will bubble......lols....
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i think only thing no bubble are the mamak shops tongue.gif sunway pyramid n Icon is far a bit..
hopefully Emporis, Kota Damansara doesn't launch a mall cos there are wayy too many malls in this area d..

I think 'the Strend' TGV will die by the time TG is ready icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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soon empire city mall also coming up ... within 5km -10 km can get so many mall.
now i watch movie no need q like last time, citta mall and strand mall no need do online booking , walk in can liao
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So many farnie comments\ haha. Seems like so happy to see the bad sales n the pricing.
I think have to go barberry thread to see their reaction right? Not here since this created for this new phase.
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[quote=mascot_lim,Nov 1 2014, 06:26 PM]
[quote=bigman,Nov 1 2014, 05:17 PM]
a big slap in face of Tropicana.... tongue.gif

no internal purchase or VIP booking?...
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This is the screenshot I took around 3.30pm.....

Not sure about VIP booking, but I think a lot of peoples will be surprise with the Cyperus price tag, even myself, as every one predict it will be reached 1.5k psf, but now selling 1.1k psf after discount and fully furnished....

Haha, was wonder anyone still believe in real estate negotiators, SA and developers sweet talk about buy property will have "big ROI"? LOLs......
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Dijaya is not the onlh developer who experieced a stark low take up rate for subsequent launches....so many units, how to absorb la?
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Slow sales at metropark and now potentially TG block C.....due to insanely high and unrealistic pricing driven by greed
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Dijaya is not the onlh developer who experieced a stark low take up rate for subsequent launches....so many units, how to absorb la?
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I think Tropicana is shocked la with the sales. Moreover, most investors buy during the first phase and a few bought during the second phase.... all in 1.6k condo's in a small space..

Hopefully their sales picks up today.. even if there's a slowdown next year, I think things will be better by the time this VPs late 2018..

Anyone knows what furniture/specs of the furniture they are providing for TG?
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Nov 2 2014, 01:01 AM)
see you name all the mall....sibeh scary liao...
can include icon city mall, sunway pyramid and curve cine-leisure?
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icon city n sunway pyramid still far from this area...

for me...the Grade A shoping mall like Sunway Pryramid, Mid Valley, One Utama, Pavilion, KLCC....and up coming IOI City Mall....still safe...other malls will struggling to get crowd n anchor tenants.....most of the malls depend on cinema to attract crowd....with cinema sure F&B can survive...got F&B sure others retail shops also can survive...so can be say cinema is very important for survival of malls...without cinema....malls just like normal old day super market...Tropicana City Malls is very good example..

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Wow, only 15% sold? Finally emotional buying starts to settle.

Actually even the 1st phase pricing is too high already in my opinion. 2nd phase sales response really made me drop glasses.

Last 2 years property is definitely in a euphoria state. Gurus seminars popping up like mushrooms. Coffee shop talk is all about frying properties. As long as can get loan approve, just buy buy buy. Almost all property launch also kena sapu clean clean.

Now that the buying starts to slowdown. People stop buying new launch, here are the questions to answer for us to predict whether a crash is coming.

1. Last 2 years, how many percent of people who went to ballots are buying for own stay?

2. If there are not for own stay, can they sell in profit after VP? Developer can no longer sell in their new launch.

3. If they can't, is there a market for rental? Can they get at least a 3% rental yield if interest rate stays the same? If interest rate continues to go up, then rental yield needs to be higher.

4. If they can't rent, can they pay the bank installment and hold?

5. If they can, will the economy continues to be good? Last 2 global recession was in 1997 and 2008, is the next one around the corner?




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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 2 2014, 09:21 AM)
icon city n sunway pyramid still far from this area...

for me...the Grade A shoping mall like Sunway Pryramid, Mid Valley, One Utama, Pavilion, KLCC....and up coming IOI City Mall....still safe...other malls will struggling to get crowd n anchor tenants.....most of the malls depend on cinema to attract crowd....with cinema sure F&B can survive...got F&B sure others retail shops also can survive...so can be say cinema is very important for survival of malls...without cinema....malls just like normal old day super market...Tropicana City Malls is very good example..
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Dude, tropicana city mall's cinema close down already?
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Dude, tropicana city mall's cinema close down already?
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no...I mean without GSC cinema...Tropicana City Malls just like old day super market....last time only uncles n aunties go there for daily needs buy only...hard to see youngster...after cinema opened...thing change....more youngsters come for cinema...n f&b directly get a positive impact from the crowd..
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Thats why lah, first phase pricing already wrong - they over did it. The price increases were fully driven by profit strategy and nothing to do with costs. They werent even sold as move in ready.
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Any idea how the retail and office lots are doing at trop avenue?
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If selling 80% furnished should have show unit lah.....no artist impression and purchasers need to use own imagination and visualization....
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Thats why lah, first phase pricing already wrong - they over did it. The price increases were fully driven by profit strategy and nothing to do with costs. They werent even sold as move in ready.
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I though present pricing for Cyperus is fair, though not to the liking of Bayberry buyers. If not for the uncertainty that looms ahead next year, sales would probably have been good. The same sentiments can bee seen across many propertylaunches of late.

I see this reasonable pricing of Cyperus as an opportunity for late commers to take position in Tropicana Gardens. When Trop announces some big names for the mall, operators or tenants - Lafayette ? Takashimaya ?? perhaps ? there will be excitement once again and prices will be very different. They have already started by bringing in Jerde to the fore and the mall looks much better then the previous version.

This mall is huge ! and probably the only one around that overlooks a lake and a massive patch of green. I think that the F&B facing the golf course will be very happening. It is in the interest for Trop to make the mall work at what ever cost so that they can eventually sell it to a REIT and cash out.

Sales person informed that Trop gardens is marketed extensively overseas. not sure how has the response been thus far. But when the overseas investors come in droves, many will say "I should have known better" Excitement generated at RRI land launches will push prices in that general area one notch higher.

Was just thinking - land prices up, material prices up, wages up, compliance cost up, population increasing how is it possible that prices will crash ? Will RM700k be the new normal for affordable housing in a couple of years ?

Like Jack Ma said - " today is difficult, tomorrow is more difficult, but the day after tomorrow is going to be beautiful. Many people die tomorrow evening."

Hang in there fellow Bayberry buyers, lets wait for the slew of good news from Trop. (Trop - better do your part yaa!!!) After the GOM rakes in the $$ from GST next year, there will probably be big gov spending pre election come 2017 and all the economic pistons will be firing again - that's when VP of Bayberry will be !

Let's decide then if the present launch price for Cyperus is a good buy - deal ?

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U sounded like a developer troop...how many units u bought at tis project?? Me agreed with everyone, totally overpriced especially 2nd block, for investors a big no no thanks, even Msuites at Kl Jalan Ampang a big failure, a case of an overpriced product launched at future prices for a hotel room built up poperty
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QUOTE(winner takes all @ Nov 2 2014, 11:07 AM)
I though present pricing for Cyperus is fair, though not to the liking of Bayberry buyers. If not for the uncertainty that looms ahead next year, sales would probably have been good. The same sentiments can bee seen across many propertylaunches of late.

I see this reasonable pricing of Cyperus as an opportunity for late commers to take position in Tropicana Gardens. When Trop announces some big names for the mall, operators or tenants  - Lafayette ? Takashimaya ?? perhaps ? there will be excitement once again and prices will be very different. They have already started by bringing in Jerde to the fore and the mall looks much better then the previous version.

This mall is huge ! and probably the only one around that overlooks a lake and a massive patch of green. I think that the F&B facing the golf course will be very happening.  It is in the interest for Trop to make the mall work at what ever cost so that they can eventually sell it to a REIT and cash out.

Sales person informed that Trop gardens is marketed extensively overseas. not sure how has the response been  thus far. But when the overseas investors come in droves, many will say "I should have known better" Excitement generated at RRI land launches will push prices in that general area one notch higher.

Was just thinking - land prices up, material prices up, wages up, compliance cost up, population increasing how is it possible that prices will crash ?  Will RM700k be the new normal for affordable housing in a couple of years ?

Like Jack Ma said - " today is difficult, tomorrow is more difficult, but the day after tomorrow is going to be beautiful. Many people die tomorrow  evening."

Hang in there fellow Bayberry buyers, lets wait for the slew of good news from Trop. (Trop - better do your part yaa!!!)  After the GOM rakes in the $$ from GST next year, there will probably be big gov spending pre election come 2017 and all the economic pistons will be firing again - that's when VP of Bayberry will be !

Let's decide then if the present launch price for Cyperus is a good buy - deal ?

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Hope everything goes well like u said . I do hope they bring in more tenants , not only mc Donald

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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 2 2014, 09:21 AM)
icon city n sunway pyramid still far from this area...

for me...the Grade A shoping mall like Sunway Pryramid, Mid Valley, One Utama, Pavilion, KLCC....and up coming IOI City Mall....still safe...other malls will struggling to get crowd n anchor tenants.....most of the malls depend on cinema to attract crowd....with cinema sure F&B can survive...got F&B sure others retail shops also can survive...so can be say cinema is very important for survival of malls...without cinema....malls just like normal old day super market...Tropicana City Malls is very good example..
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citta mall only cinema n f&b lol.
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Sounds like from tropicana SA to comfort the previous buyers n push the sales of this phase. Haha
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QUOTE(winner takes all @ Nov 2 2014, 11:07 AM)
I though present pricing for Cyperus is fair, though not to the liking of Bayberry buyers. If not for the uncertainty that looms ahead next year, sales would probably have been good. The same sentiments can bee seen across many propertylaunches of late.

I see this reasonable pricing of Cyperus as an opportunity for late commers to take position in Tropicana Gardens. When Trop announces some big names for the mall, operators or tenants  - Lafayette ? Takashimaya ?? perhaps ? there will be excitement once again and prices will be very different. They have already started by bringing in Jerde to the fore and the mall looks much better then the previous version.

This mall is huge ! and probably the only one around that overlooks a lake and a massive patch of green. I think that the F&B facing the golf course will be very happening.  It is in the interest for Trop to make the mall work at what ever cost so that they can eventually sell it to a REIT and cash out.

Sales person informed that Trop gardens is marketed extensively overseas. not sure how has the response been  thus far. But when the overseas investors come in droves, many will say "I should have known better" Excitement generated at RRI land launches will push prices in that general area one notch higher.

Was just thinking - land prices up, material prices up, wages up, compliance cost up, population increasing how is it possible that prices will crash ?  Will RM700k be the new normal for affordable housing in a couple of years ?

Like Jack Ma said - " today is difficult, tomorrow is more difficult, but the day after tomorrow is going to be beautiful. Many people die tomorrow  evening."

Hang in there fellow Bayberry buyers, lets wait for the slew of good news from Trop. (Trop - better do your part yaa!!!)  After the GOM rakes in the $$ from GST next year, there will probably be big gov spending pre election come 2017 and all the economic pistons will be firing again - that's when VP of Bayberry will be !

Let's decide then if the present launch price for Cyperus is a good buy - deal ?

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You ask for Comments? ok.

Your post sounds a tad overly optimistic at current market situation. Hopeful for good tenants, hopeful for price increase driving real prices up, hopeful no downturn to affect market prices, hopeful gov will spend money from GST into projects and not enrich themselves, hopeful that next blocks will be even pricier, and hopeful that the mall will do well.

For a balanced opinion, maybe you can include your real worries.


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U sounded like a developer troop...how many units u bought at tis project?? Me agreed with everyone, totally overpriced especially 2nd block, for investors a big no no thanks, even Msuites at Kl Jalan Ampang a big failure, a case of an overpriced product launched at future prices for a hotel room built up poperty
Typical buyer overly positive sentiment. Thats why they say, agents need to only sell once. After that the buyers themselves will become like agents and keep talking to ensure prices dont drop. Everything looks very rosy on paper but a real investor would know how the secondary market is doing right now and would be very worried especially since TG is testing very high boundaries with their pricing in this area.

Im waiting to see how many owners will be able to hold on to their units post GST upon VP. Right now everybody is saying that property prices will go up but they forget that everything else including cost of living will also go up. When cost of living goes up while salaries remain stagnant, the affordability bracket will reduce. Who then is gonna buy these units subsale when there are no longer any freebies and when banks dont value at the prices which they want?

Im just gonna sit back and watch the fun in 2016 when the first batch of units at TG gets VP. biggrin.gif


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How many buyers of Arnica and Bayberry giving comment here actually? I believe the real TG buyer won't care about the good or bad talks here. They just look for what they want. Bought it and move on. Buy don't doubt, doubt don't buy. If someone from develper side here, please don't trying to convince someone to buy TG here. Affordability of purchase is the key point for TG.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 2 2014, 12:55 PM)
Typical buyer overly positive sentiment. Thats why they say, agents need to only sell once. After that the buyers themselves will become like agents and keep talking to ensure prices dont drop. Everything looks very rosy on paper but a real investor would know how the secondary market is doing right now and would be very worried especially since TG is testing very high boundaries with their pricing in this area.

Im waiting to see how many owners will be able to hold on to their units post GST upon VP. Right now everybody is saying that property prices will go up but they forget that everything else including cost of living will also go up. When cost of living goes up while salaries remain stagnant, the affordability bracket will reduce. Who then is gonna buy these units subsale when there are no longer any freebies and when banks dont value at the prices which they want?

Im just gonna sit back and watch the fun in 2016 when the first batch of units at TG gets VP.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Kicimiao66cc @ Nov 2 2014, 01:00 PM)
How many buyers of Arnica and Bayberry giving comment here actually? I believe the real TG buyer won't care about the good or bad talks here. They just look for what they want. Bought it and move on. Buy don't doubt, doubt don't buy. If someone from develper side here, please don't trying to convince someone to buy TG here. Affordability of purchase is the key point for TG.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 1 2014, 10:55 PM)
Typical buyer overly positive sentiment. Thats why they say, agents need to only sell once. After that the buyers themselves will become like agents and keep talking to ensure prices dont drop. Everything looks very rosy on paper but a real investor would know how the secondary market is doing right now and would be very worried especially since TG is testing very high boundaries with their pricing in this area.

Im waiting to see how many owners will be able to hold on to their units post GST upon VP. Right now everybody is saying that property prices will go up but they forget that everything else including cost of living will also go up. When cost of living goes up while salaries remain stagnant, the affordability bracket will reduce. Who then is gonna buy these units subsale when there are no longer any freebies and when banks dont value at the prices which they want?

Im just gonna sit back and watch the fun in 2016 when the first batch of units at TG gets VP.  biggrin.gif
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Very TRUE.. I always tell people how big prop gurus can be 'inaccurate' when they keep saying inflation/gst/petrol hike will keep prices UUU.. I feel that the drastic in cost of living next year will leave ppl with less money to shop n enjoy mid end dining in shopping malls..

Still feel that Cyperus is NOT a bad deal being fully furnished with a good design, nice gardens, MRT and pitching it directly against Tropics, TCM.

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to the guy who spoke about takashimaya and what not, Tropicana can't even bring in people to their mall let alone top retailers, so they need to work smart by hiring external help to make it happen..

(Note: I'm a tropicana fan as I believe that they are the only 6 star developer in Msia but still lack retail experience)
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 2 2014, 01:11 PM)
Still feel that Cyperus is NOT a bad deal being fully furnished with a good design, nice gardens, MRT and pitching it directly against Tropics, TCM.
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Comment comment? Should a tropics owner sell a 625 sf FF unit and swap for a 600sf TG FF unit?
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QUOTE(winner takes all @ Nov 2 2014, 11:07 AM)
Was just thinking - land prices up, material prices up, wages up, compliance cost up, population increasing how is it possible that prices will crash ?  Will RM700k be the new normal for affordable housing in a couple of years ?

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Not making any specific prediction as to property price trajectories, but the answer to your question is market may crash or at least correct back to a reasonable level as irrational buying in the past few years have led to mass over leveraging of debt and if the economy crashes, it may lead to an exodus of expat talent as well as people losing their jobs. other factors include oversupply of properties and lack of catalyst developments (MRT having been priced in at this point in the market cycle). Speculative activity has also been rampant these past 4 years and the fear is that prices are now at their peak and far exceed valuations. One only has to look at current expected yields (down from 7-8% for condos a decade ago to 4-5% currently) to know that there is no longer much reason to buy residential properties for rental. Perhaps industrials or commercial may be the way forward for savvier investors.

Anyway, it is always best to buy within ones' means and not to overextend oneself.

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 2 2014, 01:11 PM)
Very TRUE.. I always tell people how big prop gurus can be 'inaccurate' when they keep saying inflation/gst/petrol hike will keep prices UUU.. I feel that the drastic in cost of living next year will leave ppl with less money to shop n enjoy mid end dining in shopping malls..

Still feel that Cyperus is NOT a bad deal being fully furnished with a good design, nice gardens, MRT and pitching it directly against Tropics, TCM.

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I agree somewhat with what you say.

I take TTDI for example. Condo's here are only about 650-730psf (based on actual transacted units). Although they are much older but many like Kiara Park Condo for instance, is very well maintained and prices have been strong for many years. The newer ones like Sinaran are about 1,000psf. Plus TTDI has 2 MRT stations nearby although not within walking distance in addition to the LRT Phase 3 hub in Bandar Utama.

Hence why i find it difficult to comprehend how investing in a 1,100psf condo at the rear end of Kota Damansara is a good decision compared to an established address like TTDI? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 2 2014, 01:26 PM)
I agree somewhat with what you say.

I take TTDI for example. Condo's here are only about 650-730psf (based on actual transacted units). Although they are much older but many like Kiara Park Condo for instance, is very well maintained and prices have been strong for many years. The newer ones like Sinaran are about 1,000psf. Plus TTDI has 2 MRT stations nearby although not within walking distance in addition to the LRT Phase 3 hub in Bandar Utama.

Hence why i find it difficult to comprehend how investing in a 1,100psf condo at the rear end of Kota Damansara is a good decision compared to an established address like TTDI?  rclxub.gif
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dear cybermaster, i have been following your kiara park comments for a year now. What is the latest price for a unit there? thank you.

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 1 2014, 11:16 PM)
Comment comment? Should a tropics owner sell a 625 sf FF unit and swap for a 600sf TG FF unit?
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Yes but one is a 1+1 bedder and one's a 1 bedder... Tenants don't see things such as PSF like we do tongue.gif they see 1 bedroom n 2 bedrooms..

I think tropics doesn't look nice anymore.. with all the 'lousy' condo/apartments nearby, I don't understand why would anyone pay RM2.5k a month for tropics.. moreover, KDU is moving out.. so less demand from a few students or lecturers who can afford it..

I think the future for TCM is bleak with my predictions about retail oversupply.. I believe TG will be a regional mall for KD, Tropicana and the surrounding areas if they play their cards well!

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 1 2014, 11:26 PM)
I agree somewhat with what you say.

I take TTDI for example. Condo's here are only about 650-730psf (based on actual transacted units). Although they are much older but many like Kiara Park Condo for instance, is very well maintained and prices have been strong for many years. The newer ones like Sinaran are about 1,000psf. Plus TTDI has 2 MRT stations nearby although not within walking distance in addition to the LRT Phase 3 hub in Bandar Utama.

Hence why i find it difficult to comprehend how investing in a 1,100psf condo at the rear end of Kota Damansara is a good decision compared to an established address like TTDI?  rclxub.gif
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I believe that Tropicana Gardens will be AN ADDRESS OF IT'S OWN if the mall is good.. imagine a mall with 5 beautiful towers on top of it? Wouldn't it be an iconic address with Giza/nexis/cascades being nearby?
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Nov 2 2014, 01:29 PM)
dear cybermaster, i have been following your kiara park comments for a year now. What is the latest price for a unit there? thank you.
The latest transaction was 900k for a 1356 sq ft 1st floor low rise courtyard semi reno unit.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 2 2014, 01:47 PM)
I believe that Tropicana Gardens will be AN ADDRESS OF IT'S OWN if the mall is good.. imagine a mall with 5 beautiful towers on top of it? Wouldn't it be an iconic address with Giza/nexis/cascades being nearby?
Yeah you could be right. But how many investors have experience in buying properties next to malls? How many of them know that malls can either bring very good value or can even bring down the value later? Many of them actually buy on the assumption that the Mall will add alot of value to their unit cuz thats what the agents tell them. And its probably true. But what Dijaya has done for TG is factor in this appreciation into the original sale price so instead of the buyer taking the profit upon VP, Dijaya has already pocketed it in advance while telling buyers that the price will go up even higher later upon VP.

If TG in Kota Damansara can hit an actual bank valuation subsale price of say 1,200psf in 2016, what do you think would happen to areas like Mont Kiara and KLCC?

Anyway, ill also be happy if TG subsale prices can hit the targets cuz it probably means the economy is in good shape and other KV condos would also be enjoying good returns. But ask anybody in the know and they will tell you that 2016 is gonna be a very critical year for Malaysia and ASEAN in general. And most are predicting a bleak 2016 for various reasons.
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no need worry tropicana garden price ler , for tropicana uncle just a car price for thier kids.

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 2 2014, 01:47 PM)
I believe that Tropicana Gardens will be AN ADDRESS OF IT'S OWN if the mall is good.. imagine a mall with 5 beautiful towers on top of it? Wouldn't it be an iconic address with Giza/nexis/cascades being nearby?
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Only worried about the jam. Now the jam is horrendous even on weekends, with lanes redu ed because of mrt work. Lets hope they can improve the access. Imagine it becomes successful as midvalley...but going in and out becomes like them also. You cant even get home
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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 2 2014, 02:13 PM)
no need worry tropicana garden price ler , for tropicana uncle just a car price for thier kids.
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Only worried about the jam. Now the jam is horrendous even on weekends, with lanes redu ed because of mrt work. Lets hope they can improve the access. Imagine it becomes successful as midvalley...but going in and out becomes like them also. You cant even get home
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Maybe need to park car at 1U Central Park n take MRT to reach home at TG
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 1 2014, 11:56 PM)
Yeah you could be right. But how many investors have experience in buying properties next to malls? How many of them know that malls can either bring very good value or can even bring down the value later? Many of them actually buy on the assumption that the Mall will add alot of value to their unit cuz thats what the agents tell them. And its probably true. But what Dijaya has done for TG is factor in this appreciation into the original sale price so instead of the buyer taking the profit upon VP, Dijaya has already pocketed it in advance while telling buyers that the price will go up even higher later upon VP.

If TG in Kota Damansara can hit an actual bank valuation subsale price of say 1,200psf in 2016, what do you think would happen to areas like Mont Kiara and KLCC?

Anyway, ill also be happy if TG subsale prices can hit the targets cuz it probably means the economy is in good shape and other KV condos would also be enjoying good returns. But ask anybody in the know and they will tell you that 2016 is gonna be a very critical year for Malaysia and ASEAN in general. And most are predicting a bleak 2016 for various reasons.
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Yeah I think many of them have experience buying props above malls but in the future many props will be above malls so maybe the 'exclusivity' might not be there.. Yes most developers 'price in' the future facilities and connectivity that they know about. From a business perspective, I don't understand why would they not price in the information that they are familiar with. Emira in Shah Alam is an example..

I can only quote someone on Lowyat who has said: 'Any project which has a BBB scene is a big failure on the marketing team' as they could have priced it higher.

I don't think one can compare old/large MK/KLCC condos psf with small sized MRT+Integrated projects.. I believe KLCC is 'cheaper and more worth it' than many locations but most Malaysians would rather live outside the city centre as they don't enjoy the lifestyle downtown..

I'm predicting end 2015 to be bleak as the GST/end of QE3 takes a hit on the economy.. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 2 2014, 12:51 AM)
oh ya funny how even if Tropicana City isn't doing well/is not a good mall, but Tropics is still so 'expensive'..
I feel buying a new TG apartment is much btr than buying Tropics cos this area got more FnB, things to do etc  drool.gif
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Actually is TCM really that bad? I went there couples of times during lunch hours, it was packed.
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Actually is TCM really that bad? I went there couples of times during lunch hours, it was packed.
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Not good and not bad...sufficed as a mid sized mall which serve as alternative to PJ folks instead of having to beat the jam and parking at big malls


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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Nov 2 2014, 12:17 AM)
Only worried about the jam. Now the jam is horrendous even on weekends, with lanes redu ed because of mrt work. Lets hope they can improve the access. Imagine it becomes successful as midvalley...but going in and out becomes like them also. You cant even get home
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Yeah if people don't use the MRT and still drive as much as we do, then the jam might still be bad..
I don't think that this will be even half as successful as MV but I think that the lifestyle options from shoplots across and Sunway Giza etc will make this a great place to hangout/live as u can shop dine in TG then head across to pubs than mamak as well.. drool.gif
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Yeah if people don't use the MRT and still drive as much as we do, then the jam might still be bad..
I don't think that this will be even half as successful as MV but I think that the lifestyle options from shoplots across and Sunway Giza etc will make this a great place to hangout/live as u can shop dine in TG then head across to pubs than mamak as well..  drool.gif
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Imagine going to the movies by walking...going to nice cafe by walking....buying groceries by carrying...
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Imagine going to the movies by walking...going to nice cafe by walking....buying groceries by carrying...
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same like setia walk ?

movie , gym , cafe , foood , beer and groceries all got smile.gif

if worry jam, then can sell the unit and move to semeyih for peaceful landed house smile.gif

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Imagine going to the movies by walking...going to nice cafe by walking....buying groceries by carrying...
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all can be done even with the strand, at cheaper psf
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 2 2014, 02:40 PM)
Not good and not bad...sufficed as a mid sized mall which serve as alternative to PJ folks instead of having to beat the jam and parking at big malls
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TCM was bad before GSc came in...after GSC came in, this mall become crowded....good movie choices for thise live at ss2, seksyen 16 and 17...

So cinema is a very critical factor for the succes of the mall....

The only mall that can success without cinema in My thinking is solaris dutamas....


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QUOTE(murrayballs @ Nov 2 2014, 03:35 PM)
all can be done even with the strand, at cheaper psf
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People still go for TG. smile.gif
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haha i know, which blows my mind
im speaking as a resident of kd and vested in cascades
but cascades subsale, so not direct comparison
but the strand can get from developer at cheaper psf than TG!
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if you have say 600K -700k budget, which of the following will you go?

1. TG 600sqft 1BR FF leasehold but mixed development, 1CP (700K plus)

2. Dreamcity 1100 sqft, leasehold, walking distance to MRT2, KTM and Mines shopping mall, 2+1BR bared unit, facing lake 2 CP (670K)

3. Kiara Harmony 1 at prima pelangi, 1100 sqft 2+1 BR, freehold, partly furnished with kitchen cabinet and electrical appliance, 2 CP (600K)

4. The Weave Cheras 1000 sqft, 2+1 BR leasehold, besides PGRM, walking distance to LRT, MRT and sunway velocity, 2 CP (700K)

purely for investment purpose, need all sifus comment...

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QUOTE(superpigchan @ Nov 2 2014, 04:22 PM)
if you have say 600K -700k budget, which of the following will you go?

1. TG 600sqft 1BR FF leasehold but mixed development, 1CP (700K plus)

2. Dreamcity 1100 sqft, leasehold, walking distance to MRT2, KTM and Mines shopping mall, 2+1BR bared unit, facing lake 2 CP (670K)

3. Kiara Harmony 1 at prima pelangi, 1100 sqft 2+1 BR, freehold, partly furnished with kitchen cabinet and electrical appliance, 2 CP (600K)

4. The Weave Cheras 1000 sqft, 2+1 BR leasehold, besides PGRM, walking distance to LRT, MRT and sunway velocity, 2 CP (700K)

purely for investment purpose, need all sifus comment...
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How was the Cyperus sales today? ANy sifu knows?
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QUOTE(superpigchan @ Nov 2 2014, 04:22 PM)
if you have say 600K -700k budget, which of the following will you go?

1. TG 600sqft 1BR FF leasehold but mixed development, 1CP (700K plus)

2. Dreamcity 1100 sqft, leasehold, walking distance to MRT2, KTM and Mines shopping mall, 2+1BR bared unit, facing lake 2 CP (670K)

3. Kiara Harmony 1 at prima pelangi, 1100 sqft 2+1 BR, freehold, partly furnished with kitchen cabinet and electrical appliance, 2 CP (600K)

4. The Weave Cheras 1000 sqft, 2+1 BR leasehold, besides PGRM, walking distance to LRT, MRT and sunway velocity, 2 CP (700K)

purely for investment purpose, need all sifus comment...
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Why not casa indah 1? Next door to TG only. Half price, at least you are sure price has floored. Buyers who view your unit in future sure have "bargain price" in his mind after viewing TG.

property owners surrounding KD should thank buyers of TG for setting a new benchmark price. I love you all, especially phase 2 buyers. You are the man! rclxm9.gif
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Yep, defi itely casa indah
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Casa indah ....price so cheap ....compare TG.
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QUOTE(tmdsad @ Nov 2 2014, 06:20 PM)
Casa indah ....price so cheap ....compare TG.
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Faster sapu all the casa 1 & 2!!!! rclxms.gif

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palm spring more cheap n walking distance
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palm spring more cheap n walking distance
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Would someone pay a premium to stay in an integrated development like tropicana gardens or buy a standalone condo or service apartment which is nearby? If yes, what percentage premium?

I am just wondering
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Sure there r many units available Dreamcity since they stil have phase 2-4. The sales for phase kinda slow.
550sf selling fast and sold out at 330k++ (if not mistaken)

Total of 800units++ all studio unit facing back/school. 1100sf onwards facing the lake (West direction). So expect hot sunny sun. For ownstay definitely good since its lakeside living with 3 pools and tennis court. But bear in mind there wil be alots M/E staying/rent there.
Moreover their package isn't friendly. 10% DP need to fork out. Or they have revise their package?
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I like their new shopping mall. Awesome for KD and PJ Damansara in general.
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QUOTE(Kvsual @ Nov 2 2014, 08:16 PM)
Sure there r many units available Dreamcity since they stil have phase 2-4.  The sales for phase kinda slow.
550sf selling fast and sold out at 330k++ (if not mistaken)

Total of 800units++ all studio unit facing back/school. 1100sf onwards facing the lake (West direction). So expect hot sunny sun.  For ownstay definitely good since its lakeside living with 3 pools and tennis court.  But bear in mind there wil be alots M/E staying/rent there.
Moreover their package isn't friendly.  10% DP need to fork out. Or they have revise their package?
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What about the mrt factor? As the newly announced mrt line 2 got a station nearby, will this boost up the sales of dreamcity?
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I like their new shopping mall. Awesome for KD and PJ Damansara in general.
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yeah it looks very beautiful, especially the alfresco FnB part.. hopefully the concept will augur well with tenants..
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So PJ area max is 1100psf ? any higher ?

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Is the party over? Or just taking a short break?
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Walking distance to?
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yeah it looks very beautiful, especially the alfresco FnB part.. hopefully the concept will augur well with tenants..
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Indeed, if everything according to their plan, it has high potential to replace SUnway Giza for another chilling hot spot....

Just pity those home buyers of Arnica and Bayberry, as their are right above the al-fresco dining zone, which might be operate till late night 3am.....
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Indeed, if everything according to their plan, it has high potential to replace SUnway Giza for another chilling hot spot....

Just pity those home buyers of Arnica and Bayberry, as their are right above the al-fresco dining zone, which might be operate till late night 3am.....
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i see a slight drop in Giza's shop prices/rent or am I wrong?
Yes all eyes point to Cyperus being more 'VALUABLE' than Bayberry.. Moreover, Cyperus would only have to suffer construction noise from 1 more tower unlike Bayberry that has to suffer more..

Moving forward, I would not touch commercial props at Giza as I expect the al-fresco dining zone at Tropicana Gardens to be a success, hence 'lesser' potential for Giza la..

To some previous posts asking people to buy Strand Residences, I think TG deserves a premium of 20-30% as TG is DIRECTLY ABOVE the MRT station and the ICONIC MALL with golf view and Str*nd is near a bunch of half dead shops and mall..

It's like asking why rent at Suria KLCC when u can rent at Avenue K tongue.gif tongue.gif

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i see a slight drop in Giza's shop prices/rent or am I wrong?
Yes all eyes point to Cyperus being more 'VALUABLE' than Bayberry.. Moreover, Cyperus would only have to suffer construction noise from 1 more tower unlike Bayberry that has to suffer more..

Moving forward, I would not touch commercial props at Giza as I expect the al-fresco dining zone at Tropicana Gardens to be a success, hence 'lesser' potential for Giza la..

To some previous posts asking people to buy Strand Residences, I think TG deserves a premium of 20-30% as TG is DIRECTLY ABOVE the MRT station and the ICONIC MALL with golf view and Str*nd is near a bunch of half dead shops and mall..

It's like asking why rent at Suria KLCC when u can rent at Avenue K  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Indeed, although I have no any personal interest in TG and The Strand, but my sixth sense will tell me once TG is able to secure good mix of tenants mix, it will be really hard time for The Strand to struggle......this is reality due to their location and access feasibility, which TG has more advantage....

However, it only will happened if TG able to secure class A tenant mix which to make the malls more happening.......

just my 2 cents....
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Indeed, although I have no any personal interest in TG and The Strand, but my sixth sense will tell me once TG is able to secure good mix of tenants mix, it will be really hard time for The Strand to struggle......this is reality due to their location and access feasibility, which TG has more advantage....

However, it only will happened if TG able to secure class A tenant mix which to make the malls more happening.......

just my 2 cents....
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Yeah Class A tenants should include names that are 'not normal' that are unique to big malls like 1u, Sunway and new brands to Msia..

Anyway I also blow water only, just analyze the facts for others..
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Yeah Class A tenants should include names that are 'not normal' that are unique to big malls like 1u, Sunway and new brands to Msia..

Anyway I also blow water only, just analyze the facts for others..
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Haha, sometimes we are learning from each others from blow-watering, bro....smile.gif
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To some previous posts asking people to buy Strand Residences, I think TG deserves a premium of 20-30% as TG is DIRECTLY ABOVE the MRT station and the ICONIC MALL with golf view and Str*nd is near a bunch of half dead shops and mall..
It's like asking why rent at Suria KLCC when u can rent at Avenue K  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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if one can afford it, by all means its worth the premium
judging by all the high priced bashings, im guessing we're mostly not in that lavish category

on the MRT, most would agree as long as its walking distance, its kinda acceptable
and im just chipping in on my personal experience walking the same distance almost daily, its a nice stroll
can easily stop by for dinner/coffee at the MANY options of f&b in the area on the way back to the strand residence

hold ya horses guys..this ICONIC mall title deserves some reservation..whats the track record? TCM?
im hearing so many tropicana commies..avenuelah..grandelah..metropark lah..not really sold on them
judging from their pricing screwup, its more proven they can get things wrong!

on one hand i hear concern on noises from TG f&b alfresco late operations & mrt noise
u wont get that at the strand
and a view is a view..as long as youre not facing another block with no privacy, a view of KD is magnificent
with the strand, ure guaranteed to not have future buildings blocking your view

suria klcc comparison is weak as u dont have residence there
even if there are, the same argument applies, for those can lavishly afford go for klcc la
but if complaint high priced and still wanna piece of the action, avenue k la

also casa indah is not direct comparison as its upper mid range
whereas TG, the strand & cascades is on the higher end range

just my 2 cents for the sake of discussion
not an encorp agent here..also slight worry that felda bought over encorp
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How many buyers of Arnica and Bayberry giving comment here actually? I believe the real TG buyer won't care about the good or bad talks here. They just look for what they want. Bought it and move on. Buy don't doubt, doubt don't buy. If someone from develper side here, please don't trying to convince someone to buy TG here. Affordability of purchase is the key point for TG.
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True ... Buyer really don't bother the comment, cause they sure know what they are buying.... If I got bullet, I will buy one, and regardless what the comment it is.
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if one can afford it, by all means its worth the premium
judging by all the high priced bashings, im guessing we're mostly not in that lavish category

on the MRT, most would agree as long as its walking distance, its kinda acceptable
and im just chipping in on my personal experience walking the same distance almost daily, its a nice stroll
can easily stop by for dinner/coffee at the MANY options of f&b in the area on the way back to the strand residence

hold ya horses guys..this ICONIC mall title deserves some reservation..whats the track record? TCM?
im hearing so many tropicana commies..avenuelah..grandelah..metropark lah..not really sold on them
judging from their pricing screwup, its more proven they can get things wrong!

on one hand i hear concern on noises from TG f&b alfresco late operations & mrt noise
u wont get that at the strand
and a view is a view..as long as youre not facing another block with no privacy, a view of KD is magnificent
with the strand, ure guaranteed to not have future buildings blocking your view

suria klcc comparison is weak as u dont have residence there
even if there are, the same argument applies, for those can lavishly afford go for klcc la
but if complaint high priced and still wanna piece of the action, avenue k la

also casa indah is not direct comparison as its upper mid range
whereas TG, the strand & cascades is on the higher end range

just my 2 cents for the sake of discussion
not an encorp agent here..also slight worry that felda bought over encorp
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yeah but Strand is 750m away from the station la..

Yeah, Tropicana has little success in it's retail elements but i'm very sure they will do better than Encorp..Just imagine with only 1 mall in the area now, strand is already struggling, how would it be when TG is ready?? TG's access is NOT at the BACK OF SOME SHOPS but it's on Persiaran Surian itself..

Would u want to own a condo above a potentially dead mall (strend mall)?? Can u imagine the loss of value when people walk down ur condo and see a luxurious but empty mall??

Moreover, I personally believe that good projects will be snapped up to 80% by investors/homebuyers in 3 months if it's worth the money. The strand's struggling sales 3 years from it's launch date and the dying mall speaks volumes of it's future potential brows.gif brows.gif

I'm not sure of Cyperus sales but I'm sure that the project would achieve a healthy take up rate in 6 months.. flex.gif


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btw, what's strand's current psf prices? 800? the design and all is quite good but the layout is kinda awkward and too big for a 1 bedder.. the 3 bedder looks good though..
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If I want to invest in a property, I will always compare the price to see if I'm able to make some money after VP.

So now, this TG have mall and MRT below it. Selling at 1100psf

Casa indah 1, right next door, have mall and MRT beside it. Selling at 500psf and completed, you can rent out right away, no need to pay bank interest waiting for it to complete like TG.

Which one will make you more money? If you are buying for own stay and have lots of money to throw away, then there is no discussion or analysis needed.

Another comparison, Northpoint mid valley. 950psf. Completed with everything you dream of TG should have but may not have when VP.


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If I want to invest in a property, I will always compare the price to see if I'm able to make some money after VP.

So now, this TG have mall and MRT below it. Selling at 1100psf

Casa indah 1, right next door, have mall and MRT beside it. Selling at 500psf and completed, you can rent out right away, no need to pay bank interest waiting for it to complete like TG.

Which one will make you more money? If you are buying for own stay and have lots of money to throw away, then there is no discussion or analysis needed.

Another comparison, Northpoint mid valley. 950psf. Completed with everything you dream of TG should have but may not have when VP.
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Yes I'm of the same opinion with u as although Casa Indah is old and not as good as TG, one can target tenants who can't afford TG to live in Casa Indah.. I'm sure that you'll be able to get better yields at Casa Indah with good ID n reno..

My analysis prior to this is solely on new launch/new VP projects in PJ/Kelana Jaya/Damansara..

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If I want to invest in a property, I will always compare the price to see if I'm able to make some money after VP.
So now, this TG have mall and MRT below it. Selling at 1100psf
Casa indah 1, right next door, have mall and MRT beside it. Selling at 500psf and completed, you can rent out right away, no need to pay bank interest waiting for it to complete like TG.
Which one will make you more money? If you are buying for own stay and have lots of money to throw away, then there is no discussion or analysis needed.
Another comparison, Northpoint mid valley. 950psf. Completed with everything you dream of TG should have but may not have when VP.
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totally agreed on very little upside at 1100psf..and this is coming from a KD-loving fella
casa is awesome but it wont be a bargain as owners will definitely sell at above market price value
bear in mind those fronting persiaran surian will face mrt noise, minus those blocks facing each other, ure left with one side of optimum view and those will cost u a premium
if casa valuation goes up further, i dont see how the likes of cascades & strand will not follow suit

not really comparing to midvalley as this thread on TG, so just comparing nearby

QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 3 2014, 07:37 AM)
btw, what's strand's current psf prices? 800? the design and all is quite good but the layout is kinda awkward and too big for a 1 bedder.. the 3 bedder looks good though..
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actually not sure their pricing now haha..but cheaper than TG for sure lah
mall poor performing bad for retails..but as resident, i think u would find u have most things at the strand
and who knows, maybe all neighbourhood malls can only perform like the strand..we'll see what uptown DU and DJ mall will turn out..but agree la strand mall management sucks..but its a super nice mall..perhaps a new mangement team can turn it around..now theres another upside..also when cascades office and strand garden office tenanted, the strand mall is bound to do better
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With such price, what is the investment strategy? For own stay, I think it will be a decent place.
Anyone care to share the ROI with some supporting calculation. I find it very hard to comprehend. Also the vacancy period that has to be assumed with the number of units. Unless, one have the holding power.
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Srand and Tropicana City Mall....2 examples where having cinemas dont promise success
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 3 2014, 07:37 AM)
btw, what's strand's current psf prices? 800? the design and all is quite good but the layout is kinda awkward and too big for a 1 bedder.. the 3 bedder looks good though..
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is it the one above the encorp strand mall? only a few units left, and all facing the highway. price is almost 900rm psf. (i think it's about 700 sft for 600++k , if i recall). this was from my visit last month.
as for the strand mall, i love it as it's very quiet - i don't like crowds. But i just wonder how come it's so quiet compared to sunway giza. i think encorp didn't manage or market their mall well.


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With such price, what is the investment strategy? For own stay, I think it will be a decent place.
Anyone care to share the ROI with some supporting calculation.  I find it very hard to comprehend.  Also the vacancy period that has to be assumed with the number of units.  Unless, one have the holding power.
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If you ask me and not rush for own stay. This is how I will do it.

If you are aiming the 1300sf TG which is at 1.4mil now.

1. Buy 2 casa indah 1 now and rent it out.
2. 5 years later when MRT and mall is matured. Sell it and buy your love TG 1300sf.

Maybe this is the cheapest way to stay in your dream condo TG.

Just blowing water la. :-) got no time to do all the calculations. You should do it if you are really serious about it.
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don't underestimate the noise created by mrt. especially highrise too near to it.

underground mrt always better than elevated mrt. macam velo all mrt station go underground.
if elevated mrt station... better stay more than 400m away.

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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Nov 2 2014, 07:12 PM)
is it the one above the encorp strand mall? only a few units left, and all facing the highway. price is almost 900rm psf. (i think it's about 700 sft for 600++k , if i recall). this was from my visit last month.
as for the strand mall, i love it as it's very quiet - i don't like crowds. But i just wonder how come it's so quiet compared to sunway giza. i think encorp didn't manage or market their mall well.
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I don't like the layout.. quite a waste of space.. moreover the absolute price is similar to TG studio.. but Encorp's lobby and all looks good...
http://www.encorp.com.my/v6/wp/

Yeah they didn't promote the mall well.. it's supposed to be an upscale mall (atria is the next upscale mall)..

I hope the MRT won't be as noisy as the LRT tongue.gif I think underground MRT too expensive for this area...
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strand mall is good mall just access road really bad.
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If you ask me and not rush for own stay. This is how I will do it.

If you are aiming the 1300sf TG which is at 1.4mil now.

1. Buy 2 casa indah 1 now and rent it out.
2. 5 years later when MRT and mall is matured. Sell it and buy your love TG 1300sf.

Maybe this is the cheapest way to stay in your dream condo TG.

Just blowing water la. :-) got no time to do all the calculations. You should do it if you are really serious about it.
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Agree with you that there are many other investment choices than this for this price.

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Just like the past, when peoples bought Tropics, a lot of peoples laughed at them why buy this condo at this sky high price, but now I can assures that all these home buyers made right decision and now laughing all the way to banks.......

Investment actually is individual perspective. Not everyone will have the same taste. But for me, based on Tropicana record, I can see Tropicana is very rare case developers in Malaysia on how they are going to enhance their property value to give confidence for their clients to maintain for their premium reputation and hope to sell even more sky high price for their next project. This is their strategy.

As for TG, from their mall design and concept, we can see their strong initiative want to make this to be a successful regional mall in KD. Of course, they need to work hard to attract Class A tenant mix to occupy, but time will tell.....

I am believe that some rich chinese uncles willingly to buy those property with premium price, but with strong track record, instead of some developers selling cheap, but before VP, changing this changing that......

But I think all other condos around TG should be booming.......their sub-sales values will continue to sky-rocketting......after MRT is completed.....

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How about KD landed? Still worth to buy? Seri utama only rm800k+, bayu rm900+, villa dsara rm1000k+
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How about KD landed? Still worth to buy? Seri utama only rm800k+, bayu rm900+, villa dsara rm1000k+
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really so cheap ah? I never analyze landed there.. just saw one for around 885 onwards.. looks good for ownstay but i'm not sure of the rental yield la. 1.8k-2.5k seems pretty decent for landed props although I'm not sure of wthr the units are actually transacting at that prices or not..
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Just like the past, when peoples bought Tropics, a lot of peoples laughed at them why buy this condo at this sky high price, but now I can assures that all these home buyers made right decision and now laughing all the way to banks.......

Investment actually is individual perspective. Not everyone will have the same taste. But for me, based on Tropicana record, I can see Tropicana is very rare case developers in Malaysia on how they are going to enhance their property value to give confidence for their clients to maintain for their premium reputation and hope to sell even more sky high price for their next project. This is their strategy.

As for TG, from their mall design and concept, we can see their strong initiative want to make this to be a successful regional mall in KD. Of course, they need to work hard to attract Class A tenant mix to occupy, but time will tell.....

I am believe that some rich chinese uncles willingly to buy those property with premium price, but with strong track record, instead of some developers selling cheap, but before VP, changing this changing that......

But I think all other condos around TG should be booming.......their sub-sales values will continue to sky-rocketting......after MRT is completed.....

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Very straight to the point.Looking at all the comment for these fews day notice some only showering negatively on previous buyer and developer rather than providing fact. Why people stil buying even 1300 per sf.?
Investing is about gut and thing you can see in future NOT now .
Sorry dont get me wrong .I jus giving some facts,

1.Why people paying 220K for 1.6CC CLA Mercedes and not even buying 1.6CC proton even cheaper than 100K.
2.Why people not buying the strand? Because Encorp sold to Felda.Felda we all know run by who.The strand developer so unpredictable .Look at the red carpet is suppose to be an: excess road ,but they blocked for greedy reason.We investor are not stupid.Now people are punishing them by NOT moving in to their Garden office.
3.What wrong if developer selling hihger price? Is open market you have money you buy.Pity is because of bubble,GST,bank tighthening policy etc .You act negatively.

4.Tropicana is class A developer ,most of their customer know what i talking about. all make buck money.I am not envy for their customer, because they choose the right investment.

Dont angry on me if i speak the truth,constructive feedback is wellcome..hehe.


Lastly just went to TG office 30% sold with about 80s unit sold.BTW is just open for member not public yet.All the lower units almost gone.Talk fact not otherwise.


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To me, this is more like, why buying a 1.6CC CLA Merc from a dealer that needs you to wait for another 2 years for 220k?

Whereas you can get a 1.6CC CLA Merc from another dealer for 190k, and you can collect keys right away. :-)

Sorry ah, hope what I'm saying is consider facts as well, if you want to listen.

Anyway, I'm grateful to all the TG developer and buyers, because they are adding value to KD. All condos around will surely benefit. Peace.
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Sorry to say, the mall owner at The Strand has become stricter. Encorp is now part of Felda Global.

Nevertheless, other props such as my Cascades are up up sumore. Cosans Coffee just opened.


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QUOTE(Hkwave @ Nov 3 2014, 03:30 PM)
To me, this is more like, why buying a 1.6CC CLA Merc from a dealer that needs you to wait for another 2 years for 220k?

Whereas you can get a 1.6CC CLA Merc from another dealer for 190k, and you can collect keys right away. :-)

Sorry ah, hope what I'm saying is consider facts as well, if you want to listen.

Anyway, I'm grateful to all the TG developer and buyers, because they are adding value to KD. All condos around will surely benefit. Peace.
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Sorry CLA only available at mercedez outlet and the waiting list is 1 year.no recon or 190k second hand.do your homework.
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QUOTE(Hkwave @ Nov 3 2014, 03:30 PM)
To me, this is more like, why buying a 1.6CC CLA Merc from a dealer that needs you to wait for another 2 years for 220k?

Whereas you can get a 1.6CC CLA Merc from another dealer for 190k, and you can collect keys right away. :-)

Sorry ah, hope what I'm saying is consider facts as well, if you want to listen.

Anyway, I'm grateful to all the TG developer and buyers, because they are adding value to KD. All condos around will surely benefit. Peace.
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Sorry again ...if you have contact or kangtau can get car asap ,and 190k please pm me.I have at least fews customer to introduce.
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http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium-forsale

I think this is a better deal, no offence. Just my view. Cheers.

If you want mall, MRT comparing to the 1300sf TG


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http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium-forsale

I think this is a better deal, no offence. Just my view. Cheers.

If you want mall, MRT comparing to the 1300sf TG
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usually old condo better deal but no 'new' effect lor..
I can find a few KLCC condo's that are more worth it than TG also.. I only pitch TG against new launch integrated PJ condos..

I don't find any of the unit bigger than 2 br in TG to be worth it.. anything close to 1.5 mill is not as worth it as Tropicana Grande notworthy.gif notworthy.gif Grande is my fav/top condo in Damansara
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Oh, "new effect"? Got it :-)

Anyway, just my view la. I'm not always right. Cheers! Bros and sis. Congrats on your purchase! Like I say it only brings benefit to KD.

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 4 2014, 07:02 AM)
I don't find any of the unit bigger than 2 br in TG to be worth it.. anything close to 1.5 mill is not as worth it as Tropicana Grande  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif Grande is my fav/top condo in Damansara
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QUOTE(murrayballs @ Nov 3 2014, 06:04 PM)
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whats the appeal on grande?
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the view, facilities and location.. only dislike the highway la.. i mean it's worth the money biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 4 2014, 08:08 AM)
the view, facilities and location.. only dislike the highway la.. i mean it's worth the money  biggrin.gif
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location for realz?
anyhoo whats the occupancy rate there now
its all big sizes, doubt many genuine own stayers can afford
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QUOTE(murrayballs @ Nov 3 2014, 06:21 PM)
location for realz?
anyhoo whats the occupancy rate there now
its all big sizes, doubt many genuine own stayers can afford
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yeah like the area... not sure but I see the prices stagnant/improving a bit... very suitable for own stay la who don't wanna pay 1.5-1.6m for a terrace in BU etc..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 4 2014, 08:33 AM)
yeah like the area... not sure but I see the prices stagnant/improving a bit... very suitable for own stay la who don't wanna pay 1.5-1.6m for a terrace in BU etc..
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r u sure can get 1.5m for TG? it's around 2M a unit la
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Nov 3 2014, 06:36 PM)
r u sure can get 1.5m for TG? it's around 2M a unit la
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I see grande going for around 1.75 and maybe u can nego down to 1.6 ish.. I maybe wrong
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Every time developer set the new price, everyone in the market will keep complaining non stop, and say not worth to buy. If my memory serves me right, the same happened to BU, DESA PARK, KD etc.

Where are those people that complain BU, DESA PARK, KD are overpriced cannot buy years ago?

High gain High risk. The rule of game is really simple. You want big gain you must have gut to take higher risk. There is no easy money. Safe investment with high gain if got please share i believe we all love to know also.

Just my thought.


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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Nov 4 2014, 11:47 AM)
Every time developer set the new price, everyone in the market will keep complaining non stop, and say not worth to buy. If my memory serves me right, the same happened to BU, DESA PARK, KD etc.

Where are those people that complain BU, DESA PARK, KD are overpriced cannot buy years ago?

High gain High risk. The rule of game is really simple. You want big gain you must have gut to take higher risk. There is no easy money. Safe investment with high gain if got please share i believe we all love to know also.

Just my thought.
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Yes true also go b cheap and worthy for investment area like parklane with high density and again complaint till no more tomorrow.

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Nov 4 2014, 11:47 AM)
Every time developer set the new price, everyone in the market will keep complaining non stop, and say not worth to buy. If my memory serves me right, the same happened to BU, DESA PARK, KD etc.

Where are those people that complain BU, DESA PARK, KD are overpriced cannot buy years ago?

High gain High risk. The rule of game is really simple. You want big gain you must have gut to take higher risk. There is no easy money. Safe investment with high gain if got please share i believe we all love to know also.

Just my thought.
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So true - everyday criticise.

Some people say here - other neighbouring developments will experience huge gain MAINLY due to TG pricing. I don't subscribe to this that much - it's all about whether you are worth it yourself...

Look at Bangsar South lar - Park Residences >800psf right? Those at the back (Pantai Hillpark) got go up a lot or not?


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QUOTE(C&D @ Nov 3 2014, 11:46 PM)
So true - everyday criticise.

Some people say here - other neighbouring developments will experience huge gain MAINLY due to TG pricing. I don't subscribe to this that much - it's all about whether you are worth it yourself...

Look at Bangsar South lar - Park Residences >800psf right? Those at the back (Pantai Hillpark) got go up a lot or not?
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I see Bangsar South's condo's appreciation to be very average.. Other props have outperformed BS condo's.. btw, Casa indah is indeed a good example of a prop with potential as TGs tenant market with a 600sqft studio is untested. Moreover, the prop outlook is looking bleak but I'm confident that things will be good by the time it VP's.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 4 2014, 01:50 PM)
I see Bangsar South's condo's appreciation to be very average.. Other props have outperformed BS condo's.. btw, Casa indah is indeed a good example of a prop with potential as TGs tenant market with a 600sqft studio is untested. Moreover, the prop outlook is looking bleak but I'm confident that things will be good by the time it VP's..  biggrin.gif
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Bangsar South is in the same predicament as TG in some ways. 1st two phases, under 400psf - all snapped up. 3rd phase >800psf.
KL Gateway followed with 1k psf. Then South View ~900psf.
The increase was super steep.

If you bought 1st two phases, no complains. New blocks are at 900 - 1k psf...thus, appreciation on newer blocks sure slow, if at all.
Sounds familiar?

TG - the mall better be good la. If not, susah... Tropicana mgmt. - if you are reading all these, pls behave and do up the mall super super good.
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QUOTE(C&D @ Nov 4 2014, 12:01 AM)
Bangsar South is in the same predicament as TG in some ways. 1st two phases, under 400psf - all snapped up. 3rd phase >800psf.
KL Gateway followed with 1k psf. Then South View ~900psf.
The increase was super steep.

If you bought 1st two phases, no complains. New blocks are at 900 - 1k psf...thus, appreciation on newer blocks sure slow, if at all.
Sounds familiar?

TG - the mall better be good la. If not, susah... Tropicana mgmt. - if you are reading all these, pls behave and do up the mall super super good.
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haha TG only first phase cheap tongue.gif second one die, third one not bad. Southview look like high dense middle clas condo..

Ya hopefully Tropicana staff reading this la.. no use u put all ur money and the mall turns out average..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 4 2014, 02:05 PM)
haha TG only first phase cheap  tongue.gif second one die, third one not bad. Southview look like high dense middle clas condo..

Ya hopefully Tropicana staff reading this la.. no use u put all ur money and the mall turns out average..
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How much is Phase 2 vs Phase 3 after all discount?

Personally am glad to see slow take up rate, at least a wake up call that Tropicana needs to do a lot more to attract more buyers. Pricing wise is definitely at a high side at this area but no one knows what will happen in the future.

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How much is Phase 2 vs Phase 3 after all discount?

Personally am glad to see slow take up rate, at least a wake up call that Tropicana needs to do a lot more to attract more buyers. Pricing wise is definitely at a high side at this area but no one knows what will happen in the future.
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I fully agree.

It's not a bad thing for slow take up for Cyperus. Now Tropicana better realize they are being watched, and it is a consumers market. Don't simply simply.

Bayberry buyers don't fret too much - now they need to ensure things are done well! IF Cyperus is another sell-out, Tropicana will sit down, shake legs, later mall become like SS2 Mall - jialat!!!
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The mall better be like MV or 1U!
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QUOTE(natman @ Nov 4 2014, 02:27 PM)
Tropicana staff reading but boss sleeping
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He better drink some ginseng and wake up.

Heard the Cheras and Kajang devs also not that great...
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They will probably hold back Phase 4 until they announce hotel and mall. Let the market absorb ...slowly.
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They will probably hold back Phase 4 until they announce hotel and mall. Let the market absorb ...slowly.
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You could be right, esp after Cyperus...
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QUOTE(C&D @ Nov 4 2014, 02:54 PM)
I fully agree.

It's not a bad thing for slow take up for Cyperus. Now Tropicana better realize they are being watched, and it is a consumers market. Don't simply simply.

Bayberry buyers don't fret too much - now they need to ensure things are done well! IF Cyperus is another sell-out, Tropicana will sit down, shake legs, later mall become like SS2 Mall - jialat!!!
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The mall better be like MV or 1U!
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tropicana gardens mall will never get level same as MV or 1U...tat for sure...if they make it like Paradigm Mall...think all the top management of Tropicana can open champagne to celebrate ..
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tropicana gardens mall will never get level same as MV or 1U...tat for sure...if they make it like Paradigm Mall...think all the top management of Tropicana can open champagne to celebrate ..
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 4 2014, 03:18 PM)
tropicana gardens mall will never get level same as MV or 1U...tat for sure...if they make it like Paradigm Mall...think all the top management of Tropicana can open champagne to celebrate ..
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Paradigm Mall doing well - yes. Anyone knows what's the response on their service residence? Heard not doing that well due to pricing.
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QUOTE(beginner123 @ Nov 4 2014, 03:00 PM)
They will probably hold back Phase 4 until they announce hotel and mall. Let the market absorb ...slowly.
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TG have hotel? I thought they only have TG mall and their corporate HQ towers only?
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There is a hotel element in their invitation card


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Kepoh went to sales gallery today. So quiet. Only customer. 6 or 7 sales staff. Pretend interested, ask to see sales chart.
This one no sticker game for sure....coz they dun dare put sticker to indicate sales, onli use pencil to cross out. If put sticker, sure look more empty.
Sales so far? 20%. Mostly 981sf overlooking golf course wan. Studio nobody wan. even though absolute price cheaper.
Sales person say only open to "members" so far. No public launch yet. I then ask if I wan to buy how? Then she smile and say can, no problem. But I not member woh. She then say coz I lengchai, wink wink at me. I smile back, she smile back.....err....ok, too much details.

But then I broke her heart. No money to buy, so say thank you. Face change terus. I then tekan minyak lari.

Moral of the story? U not member dun play play ah. Only member can buy now. No wonder sales already 20%. If open pubic, i mean public, sure habis edi lol
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Nov 4 2014, 05:41 PM)
Kepoh went to sales gallery today. So quiet. Only customer. 6 or 7 sales staff. Pretend interested, ask to see sales chart.
This one no sticker game for sure....coz they dun dare put sticker to indicate sales, onli use pencil to cross out. If put sticker, sure look more empty.
Sales so far? 20%. Mostly 981sf overlooking golf course wan. Studio nobody wan. even though absolute price cheaper.
Sales person say only open to "members" so far. No public launch yet. I then ask if I wan to buy how? Then she smile and say can, no problem. But I not member woh. She then say coz I lengchai, wink wink at me. I smile back, she smile back.....err....ok, too much details.

But then I broke her heart. No money to buy, so say thank you. Face change terus. I then tekan minyak lari.

Moral of the story? U not member dun play play ah. Only member can buy now. No wonder sales already 20%. If open pubic, i mean public, sure habis edi lol
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When pretty sales girl say u lengchai, 99%, they wan ur money rather den body....
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Nov 4 2014, 05:41 PM)
Kepoh went to sales gallery today. So quiet. Only customer. 6 or 7 sales staff. Pretend interested, ask to see sales chart.
This one no sticker game for sure....coz they dun dare put sticker to indicate sales, onli use pencil to cross out. If put sticker, sure look more empty.
Sales so far? 20%. Mostly 981sf overlooking golf course wan. Studio nobody wan. even though absolute price cheaper.
Sales person say only open to "members" so far. No public launch yet. I then ask if I wan to buy how? Then she smile and say can, no problem. But I not member woh. She then say coz I lengchai, wink wink at me. I smile back, she smile back.....err....ok, too much details.

But then I broke her heart. No money to buy, so say thank you. Face change terus. I then tekan minyak lari.

Moral of the story? U not member dun play play ah. Only member can buy now. No wonder sales already 20%. If open pubic, i mean public, sure habis edi lol
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In this materialistic world, bet they are more interested in your money instead of your leng zai face.....

See when walk around malls, see a lot of fat yeung sui guy, but with hot and sexy chicks, hahaah....
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 4 2014, 06:33 PM)
In this materialistic world, bet they are more interested in your money instead of your leng zai face.....

See when walk around malls, see a lot of fat yeung sui guy, but with hot and sexy chicks, hahaah....
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who know studio might become hot cake in future.

of course landed is always the number one property choice, no doubt.

judging the current and future property price, the young generation (unless support by family) even with double salary will have great difficulty to acquire a landed property in a decent / semi decent area, unless one willing to stay more than 20km or more away from town.

small condo unit might be a very good "stepping stone" or "starting point" for the young generation before upgrading to the full size condo or landed property. therefore, i will not strike off those studio / soho / sovo from the book. in future, this kind of small property unit may have a specific market at its own. Especially those small unit located in a "very happening area" where those hotspots are within walking / short drive distance. young generation now think differently from ppl like most of us here (sorry, i have to assume that ppl talking mainly for this kind of property mostly married with kids and / or reaching 30-40 age region). what those young fellows want is not what we think they should want.

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I and my kids (teenage) staying in a landed, they told me they dislike landed.

They prefer small condo where everything is so near and feel more warm feeling staying in a smaller unit rather than a big house with few ppl.

They are in fact asking me to change to condo.

I could not understand their thinking but this might be true for those young generation.
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QUOTE(bigman @ Nov 4 2014, 03:18 PM)
tropicana gardens mall will never get level same as MV or 1U...tat for sure...if they make it like Paradigm Mall...think all the top management of Tropicana can open champagne to celebrate ..
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True. MV and 1U is big mall and matured to take into comparison. I dont think it can be same level as MV, not easy.

How big is the TG Mall? Got as big as Paradigm Mall?
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 5 2014, 09:17 AM)
True. MV and 1U is big mall and matured to take into comparison. I dont think it can be same level as MV, not easy.

How big is the TG Mall? Got as big as Paradigm Mall?
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QUOTE(rainman19 @ Nov 5 2014, 09:23 AM)
saw FB ads, 1 million sq ft mall
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1 million gross or net rentable space mall?
I thought the mall is a lot smaller than 1mil nettable space.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 5 2014, 09:41 AM)
1 million gross or net rentable space mall?
I thought the mall is a lot smaller than 1mil nettable space.
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i oso try to find out from their FB, wheter is net or gross but couldnt find the previous ads.
although is gross, make it 700k as nett consider regional mall size too.


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saw FB ads, 1 million sq ft mall
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If 1mil sq ft mall, then it would be huge.

Then Tropicana must able to secure the retail tenants upon completion rather than 1 by 1 coming in.


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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 1 2014, 04:45 PM)
Haha, As of 3.30pm sales is not even 20%.....

I think the market is really slow now......

Overall concept is not bad, fully furnished with price tag 1.1k psf, is a good buy compared to Bayberry.....Not sure if Bayberry homebuyers will jumped into Tropicana or not.......

Personally I love their mall design, hopefully there is no suddenly changes upon completions......but P1 & P2 might have some issues as their block below will have 24 hours al-fresco dining, including pubs......therefore, still Cyperus is  better for me to keep peaceful sleep at night.....
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Furthermore, DIBS is no longer available which made investor to pay more.

Interest rate went up from 6.6 to 6.8

I think this is the reason why prop is moving slow now, worse for subsales....
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Nov 5 2014, 09:13 AM)
I and my kids (teenage) staying in a landed, they told me they dislike landed.

They prefer small condo where everything is so near and feel more warm feeling staying in a smaller unit rather than a big house with few ppl.

They are in fact asking me to change to condo.

I could not understand their thinking but this might be true for those young generation.
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I myself would prefer to move in condo lo.... currently staying in s/d find it its too big for few people to live and maintainnace cost is too big. If not tied up i would choose condo with malls below
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QUOTE(natman @ Nov 4 2014, 08:04 PM)
I myself would prefer to move in condo lo.... currently staying in s/d find it its too big for few people to live and maintainnace cost is too big. If not tied up i would choose condo with malls below
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some people prefer condo with mall below and some find it too commercialized.. I think TG suits ur lifestyle.. personally I don't enjoy 'shopping mall food'.
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1 million gross or net rentable space mall?
I thought the mall is a lot smaller than 1mil nettable space.
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The bigger they are the harder they fall.

Problem numero uno with this is accessibility. The MRT is a plus, but how many family out there take MRT together-gether to go mall. Just look at how successful curve/ikea/MV/1U without MRT. Car access is number 1.

Even TCM has much better accessibility but the mall is so-so nia.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 5 2014, 11:17 AM)
some people prefer condo with mall below and some find it too commercialized.. I think TG suits ur lifestyle.. personally I don't enjoy 'shopping mall food'.
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I live in landed ....next to a mall in subang....I also dont enjoy mall food.....
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I myself would prefer to move in condo lo.... currently staying in s/d find it its too big for few people to live and maintainnace cost is too big. If not tied up i would choose condo with malls below
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how maintenance in landed is higher than condo?
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Dear Valued Customers,

We would like to express our gratitude to those of you who turned up at Tropicana Gardens last Saturday when we unveiled our highly-anticipated new tower – Cyperus Serviced Residences.

If you did not have the opportunity to drop by last week, not to worry – make time and come on over this Saturday!

The new tower of Tropicana Gardens, Cyperus Serviced Residences is the epitome of high-rise luxury living while keeping you connected to modern conveniences within and around this integrated development in Kota Damansara. Cyperus offers FULLY FURNISHED studio, 2-bedroom and 3-bedroom units with built-up ranging between 600sqft and 1,404sqft.

These thoughtfully-designed spaces enjoy unencumbered access to all recreational, leisure and retail amenities of Tropicana Gardens. Sited on 17

acres of prime land, Tropicana Gardens is set to be the urban hub of Kota Damansara with a five-storey shopping mall, a proposed hotel, offices and

residential towers, all nestled within its unique urban gardens.

If you feel the need to travel further, there are four major highways which connect you to your favourite destinations. And you do not even have to drive, as Tropicana Gardens offers immediate access to the new MRT station, scheduled for completion in 2016.

For comfort, design, connectivity and amenities, Cyperus is the place you have always wanted to come home to.

Join us at Tropicana Gardens Property Gallery this Saturday, 8 November 2014 for interesting seminars by Mr Ho Chin Soon and MRT Corp (please refer to details below). For interested buyers who missed the Exclusive Preview of Cyperus Serviced Residences last week, grab your opportunity to own a CYPERUS unit with the Early Bird Privileges*!


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wahh.. but i saw the crowd, can hardly fit half the sales gallery also.. nothing like I city! this years most BBB scene is I city's Liberty.. tg no bbb scene...
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wahh.. but i saw the crowd, can hardly fit half the sales gallery also.. nothing like I city! this years most BBB scene is I city's Liberty.. tg no bbb scene...
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Dear Valued Customers,

We would like to express our gratitude to those of you who turned up at Tropicana Gardens last Saturday when we unveiled our highly-anticipated new tower – Cyperus Serviced Residences.

If you did not have the opportunity to drop by last week, not to worry – make time and come on over this Saturday!

The new tower of Tropicana Gardens, Cyperus Serviced Residences is the epitome of high-rise luxury living while keeping you connected to modern conveniences within and around this integrated development in Kota Damansara. Cyperus offers FULLY FURNISHED studio, 2-bedroom and 3-bedroom units with built-up ranging between 600sqft and 1,404sqft.

These thoughtfully-designed spaces enjoy unencumbered access to all recreational, leisure and retail amenities of Tropicana Gardens. Sited on 17

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Wah, got hotel some more......wonder is it the future development block marked in the model there? any idea?

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Wah, got hotel some more......wonder is it the future development block marked in the model there? any idea?
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yes u see their new plan.. the shorter tower in btw bayberry and Cyperus biggrin.gif that's their hotel which is like only 12-15 storeys if im not mistaken..

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they used the term proposed hotel.. smart.. they should build d hotel n office on d same block and make it >50 storeys.. than TG will truly be an icon to behold from Persiaran Surian (flood yesterday) and NKVE!
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BRIGHT SPACE FOR BRIGHT MINDS
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The innovations forged in office space design will make this the place where it is no longer work and play, but work as play. The world of opportunities is further enhanced by the new MRT station that is soon located adjacent to the development, making Tropicana Gardens the ideal investment choice for bright business minds.

Source:Tropicanagardens.com.my
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they used the term proposed hotel.. smart.. they should build d hotel n office on d same block and make it >50 storeys.. than TG will truly be an icon to behold from Persiaran Surian (flood yesterday) and NKVE!
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They used to proposed this word, later on will they cancelled again? haha....
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yes u see their new plan.. the shorter tower in btw bayberry and Cyperus  biggrin.gif that's their hotel which is like only 12-15 storeys if im not mistaken..
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Initially I thought in betwwen Bayberry and Cyperus is their Tropicana HQ.
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mmm.. tropicana must goreng something to attract investors?
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They used to proposed this word, later on will they cancelled again? haha....
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that one OSK style..
BTW, I think the LRT3 isnt going here.. i looked up the map n possible alignment and it says that it's only going to Tropicana Golf n Country Club side..

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mmm.. tropicana must goreng something to attract investors?
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Nowadays all put proposed, then wait for the upcoming oversupply end 2015/2016, then cancel the hotel n sell office suites instead..

I think the area deserves a small 150 bedder foreign brand 4 star hotel.. I don't think theres a market for a 5 star hotel though..
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that one OSK style..
BTW, I think the LRT3 isnt going here.. i looked up the map n possible alignment and it says that it's only going to Tropicana Golf n Country Club side..
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All this while I dont think the LRT3 alignment will pass thru TG, as the area already well served by MRT 1. LRT 3 should be covered those BU area, aman suria tropicana damansara ara area, which will be more make sense.
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yes u see their new plan.. the shorter tower in btw bayberry and Cyperus  biggrin.gif that's their hotel which is like only 12-15 storeys if im not mistaken..
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tat just proposed only...will keep changing to fit their max profit only...end up will all small small suites....
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Went to the sales gallery, concept and everything ticked! But, other than MRT, the selling point is the mall. Tropicana, did they really build and operate a very successful mall before? If not, the premium surely at the high side. Surely, Tropicana city mall was not.

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yes u see their new plan.. the shorter tower in btw bayberry and Cyperus  biggrin.gif that's their hotel which is like only 12-15 storeys if im not mistaken..
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That tower is their corporate tower.said to be moving their office from TCM to this tower. apparently confirm edi. Where got hotel?
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That tower is their corporate tower.said to be moving their office from TCM to this tower. apparently confirm edi. Where got hotel?
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tat just proposed only...will keep changing to fit their max profit only...end up will all small small suites....
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ya sell SOHO as opis yields the best profit.. no-one knows who gona stay/rent opis there, just sell first, later we headache.. If they rent the office enfloor, than I respect them lor..
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 6 2014, 02:17 AM)
All this while I dont think the LRT3 alignment will pass thru TG, as the area already well served by MRT 1. LRT 3 should be covered those BU area, aman suria tropicana damansara ara area, which will be more make sense.
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oh ok I think tikaram kor said LRT also in the first post.. yeah if cover Aman suria side better la..
BTW, heard Sunway mall in KOTA DAMANSARA started work..

Potential major mall oversupply in this small area?? My prediction will come true if Sunway builds it! drool.gif
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oh ok I think tikaram kor said LRT also in the first post.. yeah if cover Aman suria side better la..
BTW, heard Sunway mall in KOTA DAMANSARA started work..

Potential major mall oversupply in this small area?? My prediction will come true if Sunway builds it!  drool.gif
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Yeah indeed bro, it is already started land clearing.....but I think Sunway wont build the mall so fast, for now they should be focus on the SOHO residential and retail unit.....heard that the mall will be come into the picture in phase 2.....

What I heard is their mall also quite big, approximate 1 mil sqf.

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mall just opposite ,can build a bridge link this 2 mall
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mall just opposite ,can build a bridge link this 2 mall
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will be the same type of tenants on both sides.. Sunway better build a boutique mall and use the plot ratio to build a tall condo drool.gif
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mall just opposite ,can build a bridge link this 2 mall
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basically it will link coz tropicana garden mall link to MRT station and sunway nexis also link to MRT station , bridge already there tongue.gif , not sure the stand and cascade will doing a bridge link to sunway mall then link to nexis tongue.gif
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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 7 2014, 06:08 PM)
basically it will link coz tropicana garden mall link to MRT station and sunway nexis also link to MRT station , bridge already there tongue.gif , not sure the stand and cascade will doing a bridge link to sunway mall then link to nexis  tongue.gif
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where is this new sunway mall?
driving range there?

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sounds like sofo/sovo coming
doubt they dare build pure office looking at supply of cascades office and encorp garden office
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where is this new sunway mall?
driving range there?
sounds like sofo/sovo coming
doubt they dare build pure office looking at supply of cascades office and encorp garden office
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I really dont know.. i also can't imagine.. mus be the driving range la... maybe Patchay kor should advise icon_idea.gif
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I really dont know.. i also can't imagine.. mus be the driving range la... maybe Patchay kor should advise  icon_idea.gif
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who is Patchay kor???
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Accetera... Patrick Chay.. the big boss!
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he is "LYN- Most Topic Started Years 2004-2014" brows.gif brows.gif
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Cyperus lowest floor 600sf studio is about rm1100psf

I checked back Bayberry price, the lowest floor studio was about rm1000psf

So if the renovation is assumed at rm100psf, both are about the same selling price except Cyperus entry price is higher for the FF or no price increase

Again, selling FF without show room is just yawn.gif yawn.gif

2 rooms is selling better but the studio sales is really slow...amazing slow and based on how tropicana priced Cyperus, they know they are pushing for the max under current market but they must be also surprise with how slow the sales has been...you don't see that sparkle in the eyes of the SA like last time...like they also lost energy...lol
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2014, 06:53 PM)
Cyperus lowest floor 600sf studio is about rm1100psf

I checked back Bayberry price, the lowest floor studio was about rm1000psf

So if the renovation is assumed at rm100psf, both are about the same selling price except Cyperus entry price is higher for the FF or no price increase

Again, selling FF without show room is just yawn.gif  yawn.gif

2 rooms is selling better but the studio sales is really slow...amazing slow and based on how tropicana priced Cyperus, they know they are pushing for the max under current market but they must be also surprise with how slow the sales has been...you don't see that sparkle in the eyes of the SA like last time...like they also lost energy...lol
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one more different, bayberry is with DIBS and Cyperus is without...
they use FF to replace DIBS...
means Cyperus price increase at RM 100 per sqft...
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Today mr ho chon soon said mrt line 1 will be running by 31 dec 2016 as gamuda will be entitled to an incentive from mrt corp

Cyperus and the TG mall will be ready only in 2018 so there will be close to 2 years lag time from mrt operational

SA told me GSC confirm...

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Any update on sales today?
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2014, 08:25 PM)
Today mr ho chon soon said mrt line 1 will be running by 31 dec 2016 as gamuda will be entitled to an incentive from mrt corp

Cyperus and the TG mall will be ready only in 2018 so there will be close to 2 years lag time from mrt operational

SA told me GSC confirm...
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most important anchor tenant is their clothing tenant.. they shld bring Metro/Isetan
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2014, 04:53 AM)
Cyperus lowest floor 600sf studio is about rm1100psf

I checked back Bayberry price, the lowest floor studio was about rm1000psf

So if the renovation is assumed at rm100psf, both are about the same selling price except Cyperus entry price is higher for the FF or no price increase

Again, selling FF without show room is just yawn.gif  yawn.gif

2 rooms is selling better but the studio sales is really slow...amazing slow and based on how tropicana priced Cyperus, they know they are pushing for the max under current market but they must be also surprise with how slow the sales has been...you don't see that sparkle in the eyes of the SA like last time...like they also lost energy...lol
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I think if studio wanna do well mus be small leh.. 500 sqft.. 2 rooms more ideal for young family..
Did they list out their specifications? Like tiles/furniture type etc?

How many pct sold d?
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 9 2014, 01:06 AM)
I think if studio wanna do well mus be small leh.. 500 sqft.. 2 rooms more ideal for young family..
Did they list out their specifications? Like tiles/furniture type etc?

How many pct sold d?
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Out of topic.....market in kd mostly not studio?....

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2014, 06:53 PM)
Cyperus lowest floor 600sf studio is about rm1100psf

I checked back Bayberry price, the lowest floor studio was about rm1000psf

So if the renovation is assumed at rm100psf, both are about the same selling price except Cyperus entry price is higher for the FF or no price increase

Again, selling FF without show room is just yawn.gif  yawn.gif

2 rooms is selling better but the studio sales is really slow...amazing slow and based on how tropicana priced Cyperus, they know they are pushing for the max under current market but they must be also surprise with how slow the sales has been...you don't see that sparkle in the eyes of the SA like last time...like they also lost energy...lol
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1100psft got any of rebate?? or after rebate that price??
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1100psft got any of rebate?? or after rebate that price??
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The current rebate is 5%+3%+2%

3% for signing spa within 30 days (unlike the old 14 days...lol) and 2% is so call early bird discount (unlike the normal one only valid for the launching weekend...lol again)

Tropicana card member get additional discount
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 9 2014, 01:06 AM)
I think if studio wanna do well mus be small leh.. 500 sqft.. 2 rooms more ideal for young family..
Did they list out their specifications? Like tiles/furniture type etc?

How many pct sold d?
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Talking about specs, I noticed discrimination in different units

Bedroom floor for studio is porcelain tiles while the 2 rooms unit is timber flooring n tiles. 3 rooms units only all timber flooring.

Do they need to do this when the psf selling price is actually higher for studio vs the bigger units?

At the current selling price, the buyers should be mostly own stayers so the reason for the faster sale for the 2 rooms units facing golf view. The pure investors who normally go for studio has dried up hence the slow sales for studio

Per floor 12 units but 8 units or 67% are studios. Hence can say Tropicana misjudged the market demand

They should come up with more 8xx sf ft 2 rooms or 1+1 room units and reduce the number of studio to meet the own stayer market....but alas, own stayer prefer to do their own Reno vs investor who prefer furnishing for easy rent out...again conflict in the marketing strategies...my 2 cents
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As of yesterday I think only 20% sold out......nowadays should be shout market SLOW SLOW SLOW......

As predictable, 2 bedrooms sell well, but studio unit, all in blue color....lols....
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Maybe time to stop the launch . This price is not sustainable anymore rm1400psf before rebates. Complete the mall and 2 phases then sell higher if it worth it then bbb ll continue. Lol.
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 9 2014, 12:12 PM)
As of yesterday I think only 20% sold out......nowadays should be shout market SLOW SLOW SLOW......

As predictable, 2 bedrooms sell well, but studio unit, all in blue color....lols....
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In an article in Star, the marketing/ sales director of tropicana already mentioned she expected sales to be slow this weekend due to softening of property market...not too confident....
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Pj price is almost reach the peak oledy
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Everyday price ll reach another peak. Matter of affordability. Tropicana Garden sales just reflect the true the fact that the price is not reasonable anymore and not justify the future price. Good sign for other developers to consider when thinking its pricing.
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 9 2014, 10:59 AM)
The current rebate is 5%+3%+2%

3% for signing spa within 30 days (unlike the old 14 days...lol) and 2% is so call early bird discount (unlike the normal one only valid for the launching weekend...lol again)

Tropicana card member get additional discount
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Diamond member can get 5+3+2+ extra 3%= 13% ??
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 9 2014, 12:12 PM)
As of yesterday I think only 20% sold out......nowadays should be shout market SLOW SLOW SLOW......

As predictable, 2 bedrooms sell well, but studio unit, all in blue color....lols....
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20% consider worst liao...... icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2014, 09:13 PM)
Talking about specs, I noticed discrimination in different units

Bedroom floor for studio is porcelain tiles while the 2 rooms unit is timber flooring n tiles. 3 rooms units only all timber flooring.

Do they need to do this when the psf selling price is actually higher for studio vs the bigger units?

At the current selling price, the buyers should be mostly own stayers so the reason for the faster sale for the 2 rooms units facing golf view. The pure investors who normally go for studio has dried up hence the slow sales for studio

Per floor 12 units but 8 units or 67% are studios. Hence can say Tropicana misjudged the market demand

They should come up with more 8xx sf ft 2 rooms or 1+1 room units and reduce the number of studio to meet the own stayer market....but alas, own stayer prefer to do their own Reno vs investor who prefer furnishing for easy rent out...again conflict in the marketing strategies...my 2 cents
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Yeah I can only imagine the competition for studios after VP..good la more ownstayers.. hopefully they build a lot of 2 bedders for the final phase which would be a D something
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Diamond member can get 5+3+2+ extra 3%= 13% ??
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But Loh acknowledged that the take-up rate for Cyperus may not be as robust as previous phases due to the softening property market.

“There is generally a slowdown in the property market. But what will differentiate a developer is the product offering.

BBW should be happy
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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 8 2014, 10:12 PM)
As of yesterday I think only 20% sold out......nowadays should be shout market SLOW SLOW SLOW......

As predictable, 2 bedrooms sell well, but studio unit, all in blue color....lols....
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Yeah, but they said they sold 50 units out of the 400 last weekend? so until now only 80 units ah?
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Yeah, but they said they sold 50 units out of the 400 last weekend? so until now only 80 units ah?
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Metropark oso same situation....very slow... tongue.gif
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Metropark oso same situation....very slow... tongue.gif
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The Paloma sales I thought quite okay compared to this one?
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Metropark oso same situation....very slow... tongue.gif
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How many pct sold? the latest launch.. not the older ones
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20% consider worst liao...... icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Yeah, but they said they sold 50 units out of the 400 last weekend? so until now only 80 units ah?
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80 units consider quite good sales already lo. Assuming each unit price average at 800k mean it's rm64 millions sales. Still bad?
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QUOTE(Kicimiao66cc @ Nov 10 2014, 09:42 AM)
80 units consider quite good sales already lo. Assuming each unit price average at 800k mean it's rm64 millions sales. Still bad?
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ya quite bad.. what happened to associate/staff/contractor sales? usually will take up 30%. BTW, I think subsale Clearwater Residence is a better bet for people who don't wanna live in KLCC but not too far away..
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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Nov 9 2014, 02:59 PM)
Everyday price ll reach another peak. Matter of affordability. Tropicana Garden sales just reflect the true the fact that the price is not reasonable anymore and not justify the future price. Good sign for other developers to consider when thinking its pricing.
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The Developer think they can push the price up and people will follow. Now the price is way ahead of the market and followers cannot catchup. Did not even realize that the present situation is different from the past. In the past, future pricing was strongly supported with DIBS and high LTV.
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Nov 10 2014, 09:50 AM)
The Developer think they can push the price up and people will follow.  Now the price is way ahead of the market  and followers cannot catchup. Did not even realize that the present situation is different from the past. In the past, future pricing was strongly supported with DIBS and high LTV.
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yeah las time little deposit if any and no payment till VP.. nowadays mus factor in the interest all..
But the sales is unbelievably bad.. I think they are gona have to hold back the 4th tower.. moreover, 2nd tower owners are pissing bricks now tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 11 2014, 12:25 AM)
yeah las time little deposit if any and no payment till VP.. nowadays mus factor in the interest all..
But the sales is unbelievably bad.. I think they are gona have to hold back the 4th tower.. moreover, 2nd tower owners are pissing bricks now  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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At least now we know the pricing threshold for an integrated development in KD by an established developer. Question is how much time it takes to breach this level.
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Nov 11 2014, 01:29 AM)
At least now we know the pricing threshold for an integrated development in KD by an established developer.  Question is how much time it takes to breach this level.
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Bring on the mainland Chinese investors. They will buy by the dozens and lift prices to a new high
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Bring on the mainland Chinese investors. They will buy by the dozens and lift prices to a new high
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QUOTE(Kicimiao66cc @ Nov 10 2014, 11:42 PM)
80 units consider quite good sales already lo. Assuming each unit price average at 800k mean it's rm64 millions sales. Still bad?
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No No Its super good. HOT HOT HOT. So hot that if u want unit can just go and pick any. Market so slow now that 20% sales oso call HOT edi icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Nov 11 2014, 12:26 AM)
No No Its super good. HOT HOT HOT. So hot that if u want unit can just go and pick any. Market so slow now that 20% sales oso call HOT edi icon_rolleyes.gif
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even lakeville with so many agents sales slow down in the latest block.. I'm holding back for now cry.gif
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Looks like party ending liaw. Better hold on to our bullets. Cannot goreng goreng when people want to loan to continue goreng also cannot. Banks must be getting smarter.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 10 2014, 11:46 PM)
ya quite bad.. what happened to associate/staff/contractor sales? usually will take up 30%. BTW, I think subsale Clearwater Residence is a better bet for people who don't wanna live in KLCC but not too far away..
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Aiyo..you think associate/staff/contractor is billionaire mie...most of them take phase one only la. The rest give the chance to public lo. My point of view, the sales still good compare to recent new launch project in KV. If compare to TG phase one sales respond sure is bad lor. Different timing bro. Clearwater residence can't compare with TG as they are totally different location, accessibility, facilities and amenities. Of course Clearwater residence a good choice for those who prefer that location.
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Aiyo..you think associate/staff/contractor is billionaire mie...most of them take phase one only la. The rest give the chance to public lo. My point of view, the sales still good compare to recent new launch project in KV. If compare to TG phase one sales respond sure is bad lor. Different timing bro. Clearwater residence can't compare with TG as they are totally different location, accessibility, facilities and amenities. Of course Clearwater residence a good choice for those who prefer that location.
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Yeah, Clearwater is in a top resi address (less commie activities). But, what's the most cool/soft launch in Oct/Nov?
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 11 2014, 03:25 PM)
Yeah, Clearwater is in a top resi address (less commie activities). But, what's the most cool/soft launch in Oct/Nov?
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Most HOT is Liberty Tower @ I-City
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but that one i bet confirm ALL investors/speculators
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but that want i bet confirm ALL investors/speculators
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We need them to move the market...same like some of the investors/speculators for TG Phase 1 and 2 and who has dried up for phase 3
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Yeah, Clearwater is in a top resi address (less commie activities). But, what's the most cool/soft launch in Oct/Nov?
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The Hottest of the coolest goes to.......drumrolls........c....y.....p.....e.....r....u....s.......
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haha, I read about Tropicana Heights in another forum also.. soft launch over the weekend was cool as well..
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haha, I read about Tropicana Heights in another forum also.. soft launch over the weekend was cool as well..
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cool as cucumber? Premium pricing again?
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Most HOT is Liberty Tower @ I-City
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i think Lakeview oso damn hot......
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The Hottest of the coolest goes to.......drumrolls........c....y.....p.....e.....r....u....s.......
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Coolest as in coolest sales?
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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Nov 12 2014, 07:31 AM)
Coolest as in coolest sales?
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Coolest as in coolest sales?
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Tropicana just added another award to their long list of awards!!
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cool as cucumber?  Premium pricing again?
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800 plus k i think.. i saw the invitation n all.. 800k in Kajang ok right?
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800 plus k i think.. i saw the invitation n all.. 800k in Kajang ok right?
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I think there are multiple factors involved.

1. Prices have gone up. Affordability remains for the mid to upper class.
2. Many investors have already over commit.
3. Banks are getting difficult.
4. Many people wait and see.
5. LTV 70% is too heavy.

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I think there are multiple factors involved.

1. Prices have gone up.  Affordability remains for the mid to upper class.
2. Many investors have already over commit.
3. Banks are getting difficult.
4. Many people wait and see.
5. LTV 70% is too heavy.
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yeah salaries have gone up but not as much as prices la... Would be interesting to see the sales after 1/2 months and how would tropicana respond to beef up sales..
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How was tropics sales last time? Also slowly reach 100%?
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I'm not sure but the TK's who bought there gained a lot as the prices TRIPLED. I would sell tropics at today's prices (if I have one)
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I think there are multiple factors involved.

1. Prices have gone up.  Affordability remains for the mid to upper class.
2. Many investors have already over commit.
3. Banks are getting difficult.
4. Many people wait and see.
5. LTV 70% is too heavy.
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i think for Cyperus' case, developer's greed and overconfident pricing have overcome the above factors.. potential buyers just turned off by the 'future' pricing. Investors will look elsewhere..
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Anyone can guess what is the name for the 4th block? It must be started with 'D'......A, B, C then D........Dorchester?
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Anyone can guess what is the name for the 4th block? It must be started with 'D'......A, B, C then D........Dorchester?
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D.....for Die Die Die or Down Down Down rclxms.gif
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How was tropics sales last time? Also slowly reach 100%?
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Almost vp still have few units unsold but price marked up a lot compared to launching
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D.....for Die Die Die or Down Down Down rclxms.gif
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Why so negative? Tropicana con you before?
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Why so negative? Tropicana con you before?
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Eh on the contrary. I am hoping this project go up to sky rclxms.gif

But see see going to longkang. Stating the obvious onli. Paiseh paiseh
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Eh on the contrary. I am hoping this project go up to sky rclxms.gif

But see see going to longkang. Stating the obvious onli. Paiseh paiseh
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Haha if i bought TG n haven't sign the SnP, i'll cancel liao cos luxury apartments in KL also not price increase, how Kota damansara wanna increase  tongue.gif
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Anyone can guess what is the name for the 4th block? It must be started with 'D'......A, B, C then D........Dorchester?
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Diulor, dailuk laugh.gif laugh.gif
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Haha if i bought TG n haven't sign the SnP, i'll cancel liao cos luxury apartments in KL also not price increase, how Kota damansara wanna increase  tongue.gif
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Now the road outside tropicana gardens.....cant believe. I think they are constructing the main station there, and we have cars doing turns left and right. Total traffic mayhem now. Cant see this improving as the roads cannot be widened further.
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Now the road outside tropicana gardens.....cant believe. I think they are constructing the main station there, and we have cars doing turns left and right. Total traffic mayhem now. Cant see this improving as the roads cannot be widened further.
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Guess these people will not be able to get home on weekends day time due to congestion. Imagine it being like gardens/ midvalley on a typical weekend afternoon. Jam teruk
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Haha if i bought TG n haven't sign the SnP, i'll cancel liao cos luxury apartments in KL also not price increase, how Kota damansara wanna increase  tongue.gif
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forfeit 1k if booking but cancel later on...
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forfeit 1k if booking but cancel later on...
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later on, own there for life liao.. can keep for children education la.. but duno how it will look like in 20 yrs tongue.gif tongue.gif
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D.....for Die Die Die or Down Down Down rclxms.gif
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wan like this meh ??  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Anyone knows why nurse quarters being built beside strand garden office and driving range. Saw a board saying five blocks of apartment will be built there. Any hospital nearby?
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Haha if i bought TG n haven't sign the SnP, i'll cancel liao cos luxury apartments in KL also not price increase, how Kota damansara wanna increase  tongue.gif
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May you quote which KL project no increase in Value? Can share with us more on why you want to cancel?
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May you quote which KL project no increase in Value? Can share with us more on why you want to cancel?
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can share with us which KL project increase the most if 2013 vs 2014?? how many % is the most?? hmm.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Nov 15 2014, 09:51 AM)
Guess these people will not be able to get home on weekends day time due to congestion. Imagine it being like gardens/ midvalley on a typical weekend afternoon. Jam teruk
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Underground Tunnel WIP ...........and DESH highway from curve,kD, RRI to shah alam.
Jam you complain ,why dont we buy at rawang or bukit beruntung or Ipoh or .......
No jam no crowd no business activity no transaction ...finally no value on your property.
You may choose MRT or LRT BU line in future to avoid jam.
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QUOTE(jasmine208 @ Nov 16 2014, 12:13 PM)
Underground Tunnel WIP ...........and DESH highway from curve,kD, RRI to shah alam.
Jam you complain ,why dont we buy at rawang or bukit beruntung or Ipoh or .......
No jam no crowd no business activity no transaction ...finally no value on your property.
You may choose MRT or LRT BU line in future to avoid jam.
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if bring pretty girls go candle dinner how choose MRT wor?? must use his super car ma...... brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(jasmine208 @ Nov 16 2014, 12:13 PM)
Underground Tunnel WIP ...........and DESH highway from curve,kD, RRI to shah alam.
Jam you complain ,why dont we buy at rawang or bukit beruntung or Ipoh or .......
No jam no crowd no business activity no transaction ...finally no value on your property.
You may choose MRT or LRT BU line in future to avoid jam.
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I am talking about extreme jam.....
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I am talking about extreme jam.....
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I stay at KD .What do you mean extreme jam.? Which road you are talking about and what time you refer too?


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I am talking about extreme jam.....
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i got same feeling too.........extreme jam in KD, especially 5pm-7pm icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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i got same feeling too.........extreme jam in KD, especially 5pm-7pm  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Why are we buy TG project

A.Because of pretty girl

B.Because No Jam

C.Because I want drive my super car

D.Because it cheap

E. All of the above

I am sure Tropicana Garden not targeting the above customer.Have a nice day.
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QUOTE(jasmine208 @ Nov 16 2014, 12:45 PM)
Why are we buy TG project

A.Because of pretty girl

B.Because No Jam

C.Because I want drive my super car

D.Because it cheap

E. All of the above

I am sure Tropicana Garden not targeting the above customer.Have a nice day.
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May you quote which KL project no increase in Value? Can share with us more on why you want to cancel?
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Article on Focus Malaysia by Knight frank saying price increase of luxury apartments in KL incl MK, Ampang, Bangsar only 0.7% in 1 year..

http://www.focusmalaysia.my/Assets/KL%20lu...growth%20waning


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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 16 2014, 02:12 PM)
Article on Focus Malaysia by Knight frank saying price increase of luxury apartments in KL incl MK, Ampang, Bangsar only 0.7% in 1 year..
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from 2013 to 2014 should be less than 3%-5% in average?? bcos many project sales are vry slow... issit??
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from 2013 to 2014 should be less than 3%-5% in average?? bcos many project sales are vry slow... issit??
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rule of thumb for prop investment should be the value exceeding the interest rate biggrin.gif if it's less means its not worth ur money in the short term..


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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 16 2014, 02:31 PM)
rule of thumb for prop investment should be the value exceeding the interest rate  biggrin.gif if it's less means its not worth ur money in the short term..
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years in 2009 to 2012 i think yearly increase can easily get 10% issit in general property KV??
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years in 2009 to 2012 i think yearly increase can easily get 10% issit in general property KV??
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2011 2012 all more than 10% i think.. 2013 also high..2014 slow a bit..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 16 2014, 02:36 PM)
2011 2012 all more than 10% i think.. 2013 also high..2014 slow a bit..
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2015 is the worst??  cry.gif  cry.gif
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2015 is beginning of 2008.
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QUOTE(Kicimiao66cc @ Nov 19 2014, 04:04 PM)
2015 is beginning of 2008.
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2015->2018 worst ++
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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 19 2014, 10:23 PM)
2015->2018 worst ++
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how u kno??
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QUOTE(Kicimiao66cc @ Nov 19 2014, 04:04 PM)
2015 is beginning of 2008.
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1997 and 2008 kv property not much affected wor.

beginning of 1987 right?

this is what my developer uncle told me. he been thru all the recession.
the worst property period around 1987.
he said actually 1997 and 2008 are totally nothing compare to 1987.

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how u kno??
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1997 and 2008 kv property not much affected wor.

beginning of 1987 right?
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10 year cycle theory?
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Nov 19 2014, 10:36 PM)
10 year cycle theory?
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property cycle can be way way more than 10 years.

the 10 years cycle theory not 100% on property... can be others.

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new, old, all oso tok same thing wan rclxms.gif
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I oni talk cock  wink.gif
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this forum is best place for all kinds of kok....i mean tok.... rclxm9.gif
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wow .....u same as me??  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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u never go to the LYN most famus thread yet leh? shocking.gif
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u never go to the LYN most famus thread yet leh? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 19 2014, 11:22 PM)
which 1?? shocking.gif
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry71542858

but beware this one post no count wan biggrin.gif
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but why??
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but why??
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becoz its.....all about kok tok nia
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than I join the wrong place...I should join that thread shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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how's the sales here? why so quiet?? heard they going for prop fairs all
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High end product usually quite lo. If hot hot one then go and see any thread tag with "affordable".
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High end product usually quite lo. If hot hot one then go and see any thread tag with "affordable".
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Haha.. i see tauke's commenting on the other forum la.. not here..

but i saw the artist impression of Cyperus.. Very beautiful.. hopefully the final product will be comparable but looking at Tropicana Grande, i know TG Cyperus will look great

http://www.tropicanagardens.com.my/cyperus...ent_gallery.php
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when will the mall open?
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when will the mall open?
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Supposed to be before Cyperus vp
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Supposed to be before Cyperus vp
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u mean the mall might open after arnica completes? should open together with the first apartment block..
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u mean the mall might open after arnica completes? should open together with the first apartment block..
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How big is the mall if compare with tropicana mall??
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How big is the mall if compare with tropicana mall??
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Tropicana Gardens 1 million sqft NLA.. TCM one 450k only..

Sunway is building a mall also... wanna see who gets better tenants as the less experienced one has a mall by the MRT station while the very experienced one's mall is further away from the MRT station..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2014, 09:59 AM)
Tropicana Gardens 1 million sqft NLA.. TCM one 450k only..

Sunway is building a mall also... wanna see who gets better tenants as the less experienced one has a mall by the MRT station while the very experienced one's mall is further away from the MRT station..
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Btw, uniqlo had opened in tropicana city mall ... Look like tropicana are seriously on mall business...
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Going to open on 12 dec taking over the lot previously used as tropicana sales gallery
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2014, 09:59 AM)
Tropicana Gardens 1 million sqft NLA.. TCM one 450k only..

Sunway is building a mall also... wanna see who gets better tenants as the less experienced one has a mall by the MRT station while the very experienced one's mall is further away from the MRT station..
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The very experienced one will perform better...if u are a retailer and has to choose one to open your outlet, the choice is quite obvious
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The very experienced one will perform better...if u are a retailer and has to choose one to open your outlet, the choice is quite obvious
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yeah, thats what i hear from retail people as well.. anyone knows whether the experienced one has started construction?
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Brader, y u kno every thing?? U dman pro.....smile.gif smile.gif
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brader i roughly know the figures but i just googled to get exact number.. i assume u don't really google anything n just wait to be spoonfed... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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brader i roughly know the figures but i just googled to get exact number.. i assume u don't really google anything n just wait to be spoonfed...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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brader i roughly know the figures but i just googled to get exact number.. i assume u don't really google anything n just wait to be spoonfed...  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Birdman target 20k vip club award. Your answer not important. Post counting more important. More like in kopitiam chit chatting forum thn property thread.
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Birdman target 20k vip club award. Your answer not important. Post counting more important. More like in kopitiam chit chatting forum thn property thread.
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Birdman target 20k vip club award. Your answer not important. Post counting more important. More like in kopitiam chit chatting forum thn property thread.
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haha i can see u scolding him here and there in diff threads.. btw, did u visit cyperus sales gallery??
Some investors are coming to their senses that despite being a fantastic product, TG will have too many residential units n stiff competition post VP will be evident as the first 2 phases have a very high percentage of investors.
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haha i can see u scolding him here and there in diff threads.. btw, did u visit cyperus sales gallery??
Some investors are coming to their senses that despite being a fantastic product, TG will have too many residential units n stiff competition post VP will be evident as the first 2 phases have a very high percentage of investors.
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High percentage of investor especially for studio units and less for 2 and 3 rooms units
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High percentage of investor especially for studio units and less for 2 and 3 rooms units
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Boss,

Agreed, I think very few investors bought into the 3 bedroom units.. Current phase 2 bedroom selling better than the rest..

8 out of 12 units for each floor will be studios.. supply of studios here will be very high.. easily 70% of the proposed 1.4k units or so.

U vested here CMW kor?
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 14 2014, 10:41 AM)
Boss,

Agreed, I think very few investors bought into the 3 bedroom units.. Current phase 2 bedroom selling better than the rest..

8 out of 12 units for each floor will be studios.. supply of studios here will be very high.. easily 70% of the proposed 1.4k units or so.

U vested here CMW kor?
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One of the biggest regret as remembered wanted to go on the friday launch of arnica for tropicana members but had office meeting and couldnt make it. After lunch check lowyat already mostly gasak and rainy friday evening. On saturday only open 24 units for public...

Also went for bayberry friday evening preview with nice food and band but back off when price exceeded RM1000psf. My friend book one also cancel

Congrats to arnica owners for sure!!
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Dec 13 2014, 08:52 PM)
One of the biggest regret as remembered wanted to go on the friday launch of arnica for tropicana members but had office meeting and couldnt make it. After lunch check lowyat already mostly gasak and rainy friday evening. On saturday only open 24 units for public...

Also went for bayberry friday evening preview with nice food and band but back off when price exceeded RM1000psf. My friend book one also cancel

Congrats to arnica owners for sure!!
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Yes yes, arnica owners are looking at 1.2kpsf at least upon VP.. i would benchmark arnica against tropics although arnica's facilities/design is newer.. no worries, i'm pretty sure u sapu-ed something else..

Did u attend cyperus preview? or didn't bother
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 14 2014, 11:19 AM)
Yes yes, arnica owners are looking at 1.2kpsf at least upon VP.. i would benchmark arnica against tropics although arnica's facilities/design is newer.. no worries, i'm pretty sure u sapu-ed something else..

Did u attend cyperus preview? or didn't bother
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Attended the session with Ho chin soon

Even Mr Ho opened his speech with remark that with a location next to a MRT station, why TG need him?


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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Dec 13 2014, 09:46 PM)
Attended the session with Ho chin soon

Even Mr Ho opened his speech with remark that with a location next to a MRT station, why TG need him?
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Haha nice.. did he manage to convince a lot of people? i'm sure he didn't convince u enough to buy one biggrin.gif

btw, this is a video of the underground stations of the MRT.. very impressive indeed rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOygpPMeQss
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Cyperus serviced residences...join them at Tropicana Gardens property gallery on 7 & 15 March 2015

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QUOTE(brensek @ Mar 6 2015, 03:36 PM)
Cyperus serviced residences...join them at Tropicana Gardens property gallery on 7 & 15 March 2015

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Nothing wrong with this dev. If they price merely 10% lower, done deal.

But greedy lorr. Arnica buyers still good all the way.
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QUOTE(C&D @ Mar 6 2015, 09:08 AM)
Nothing wrong with this dev. If they price merely 10% lower, done deal.

But greedy lorr. Arnica buyers still good all the way.
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Yes i reli like d facilities, concept & location... it seems like they are spending millions every month to advertise...
btw, i think cascades office is struggling..see opis rental thr asking for 2psf or less... cascades apartment renting around RM3psf or RM800-900psf.. This one closer to MRT+above mall+nearer to dataran sunway/giza..

This is my favorite MRT product brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 10 2015, 10:44 AM)
Yes i reli like d facilities, concept & location... it seems like they are spending millions every month to advertise...
btw, i think cascades office is struggling..see opis rental thr asking for 2psf or less... cascades apartment renting around RM3psf or RM800-900psf.. This one closer to MRT+above mall+nearer to dataran sunway/giza..

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Why cascades that poor performance arr?
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Why cascades that poor performance arr?
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Boss,

if u analyze offiice in dsara (other than 1u, uptown n surian tower), most of the new towers/office suites are not doing well... u see oval damansara cap value only 500psf.. too many offices n too few companies in the area la.. KD has too many shops/office in the encorp/cascades side which is further away from the heart which is in giza/dataran sunway..sunway nexis going for rm3psf fr their sohos..

TG office tower will house tropicana's new HQ n the remaining space cn be rented out at maybe rm4psf by then with the MRT n mall..

btw boss, nexis n cascade retail still nt doing well ah? gt 50% or not?
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 10 2015, 05:47 PM)
Boss,

if u analyze offiice in dsara (other than 1u, uptown n surian tower), most of the new towers/office suites are not doing well... u see oval damansara cap value only 500psf.. too many offices n too few companies in the area la.. KD has too many shops/office in the encorp/cascades side which is further away from the heart which is in giza/dataran sunway..sunway nexis going for rm3psf fr their sohos..

TG office tower will house tropicana's new HQ n the remaining space cn be rented out at maybe rm4psf by then with the MRT n mall..

btw boss, nexis n cascade retail still nt doing well ah? gt 50% or not?
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Yeah- got it. Well, Oval - that one is quite bad I know.

The last para - think it's less than that...

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Yeah- got it.  Well, Oval - that one is quite bad I know.

The last para - think it's less than that...
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So far nexis n cascade retail looks like 15-20% brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif .. btw LTG kor, arnica+bayberry really like speed of lighting leh. wld be gd if cn take a pic of cyperus up close .. its 4 yrs frm october last yr right?

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 11 2015, 07:26 PM)
So far nexis n cascade retail looks like 15-20%  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif .. btw LTG kor, arnica+bayberry really like speed of lighting leh. wld be gd if cn take a pic of cyperus up close .. its 4 yrs frm october last yr right?
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i using china ah pek phone ~ cant zoom too far to get clear photo cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 10 2015, 05:47 PM)
btw boss, nexis n cascade retail still nt doing well ah? gt 50% or not?
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QUOTE(C&D @ Apr 11 2015, 07:26 AM)
The last para - think it's less than that...
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nexis should benefit from the future MRT foot traffic

while cascades retail full potential solely depends on the success its corporate office tower and the strand garden office next door..but hard to see tenants moving in now, especially with MRT works congestion (combined with KV office oversupply)

upon MRT completion, things are bound to pick up for the offices, tho most likely still a poor return for the office towers
but cascades retail has lotsa potential..the 2 development offices has ALOT of potential catchment workers
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QUOTE(murrayballs @ Apr 11 2015, 12:35 PM)
nexis should benefit from the future MRT foot traffic

while cascades retail full potential solely depends on the success its corporate office tower and the strand garden office next door..but hard to see tenants moving in now, especially with MRT works congestion (combined with KV office oversupply)

upon MRT completion, things are bound to pick up for the offices, tho most likely still a poor return for the office towers
but cascades retail has lotsa potential..the 2 development offices has ALOT of potential catchment workers
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Boss very detailed analysis indeed,

Now when we look at the whole area.. i think the only SUPER wong areas will be tropicana gardens, giza, nexis+dataran sunway.. I wldnt reli add sunway galaxy to the list now but i hope they scrap the mall sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

The shops in encorp strand retail & mall arent doing well & i expect cascades retail to remain flat given the distance frm the pulse of KD.. we will see in 2 yrs la but i think any office tower super close to the mrt will do well...

Tropicana shld start the construction of the office tower la..
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QUOTE(LTG @ Apr 11 2015, 09:24 AM)
i using china ah pek phone ~ cant zoom too far to get clear photo  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Lol u take frm nearby when u go giza la.. yesterday only manage to check mrt construction fr ikea n Empire city progress..

btw, anyone went fr TGs event this week?? some number talk
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 12 2015, 12:28 PM)
Boss very detailed analysis indeed,
Now when we look at the whole area.. i think the only SUPER wong areas will be tropicana gardens, giza, nexis+dataran sunway.. I wldnt reli add sunway galaxy to the list now but i hope they scrap the mall  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
The shops in encorp strand retail & mall arent doing well & i expect cascades retail to remain flat given the distance frm the pulse of KD.. we will see in 2 yrs la but i think any office tower super close to the mrt will do well...
Tropicana shld start the construction of the office tower la..
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yeah man a mall from sunway is gonna overkill the already super competitive mall market
but perhaps they can differentiate themselves more (example digital mall)
i have a feeling they'll end up doing an open air pseudo mall like giza & nexis
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QUOTE(murrayballs @ Apr 12 2015, 12:38 AM)
yeah man a mall from sunway is gonna overkill the already super competitive mall market
but perhaps they can differentiate themselves more (example digital mall)
i have a feeling they'll end up doing an open air pseudo mall like giza & nexis
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TG doing open air mall below arnica+baybery la.. nearby got mega empire city mall too (bad access though) brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 12 2015, 05:04 PM)
TG doing open air mall below arnica+baybery la.. nearby got mega empire city mall too (bad access though)  brows.gif  brows.gif
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haha then a mall by sunway would a lose-lose situation for all!
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QUOTE(murrayballs @ Apr 12 2015, 04:21 AM)
haha then a mall by sunway would a lose-lose situation for all!
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Yes, sunway has overestimated themselves n think fashion retailers wld sign up with them jus cos they are sunway.. same with pavi group.. they both have been shocked in 2015 with their new malls.. we will see soon brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

btw, did u visit the showunit? hows the id n all?
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QUOTE(LTG @ Apr 11 2015, 09:24 AM)
i using china ah pek phone ~ cant zoom too far to get clear photo  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Bro, TGs price for non bumi is 1.25kpsf b4 5% right?
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I think my friend would be renting a shop at Nexis.


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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 13 2015, 10:02 AM)
Bro, TGs price for non bumi is 1.25kpsf b4 5% right?
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TG phase 1 should be 1k psf n below after discount ~
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Source: https://www.facebook.com/groups/115179435202482/

SPONSORED NEWS ::: Los Angeles-headquartered, international shopping mall designer The Jerde Partnership has been appointed to design an upcoming world-class 1.1 million sq ft shopping centre at Tropicana Gardens in Kota Damansara, Petaling Jaya. The Jerde Partnership will be introducing the firm's iconic "placemaking" design aimed at creating memorable places where people can gather and experience a sense of community. Every level of the mall will be memorable, robust and thematic. A dynamic-styled urban terrace gardens will highlight its curvilinear facade design amidst a tropical life. The shopping centre aims to be a premier neighbourhood mall given its advantage of being integrated with the Surian MRT Station.

Here's the brighter side of life, where a new MRT Station is at your doorstep. [www.tropicanagardens.com.my]



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For those seeking to buy here, I would suggest looking at PTLM's analysis which is VERY detailed indeed although they could add on those negatives like too many units within TG competing for each other (1400-1500), high price point for a LH prop in KD (which is justified due to many USPs), shopping mall oversupply in Damansara..But big thumbs up for PTLM

http://www.ptlm.com.my/index.php/cyperus-s...-kota-damansara
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A senior member or Malaysia retail insight recently spoke to several key retailers n they have mentioned their reservations on the KD shopping market as a whole due to the 'average' spending power here.. Hope Jerde can work their magic here.


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Hi is there anyone having TPC kindly pm me.will share the referral fees.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 27 2015, 06:52 PM)
For those seeking to buy here, I would suggest looking at PTLM's analysis which is VERY detailed indeed although they could add on those negatives like too many units within TG competing for each other (1400-1500), high price point for a LH prop in KD (which is justified due to many USPs), shopping mall oversupply in Damansara..But big thumbs up for PTLM

http://www.ptlm.com.my/index.php/cyperus-s...-kota-damansara
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Other than 1 last part. The rest is like summary of the brochure and website. Zzzzz..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 27 2015, 05:52 PM)
For those seeking to buy here, I would suggest looking at PTLM's analysis which is VERY detailed indeed although they could add on those negatives like too many units within TG competing for each other (1400-1500), high price point for a LH prop in KD (which is justified due to many USPs), shopping mall oversupply in Damansara..But big thumbs up for PTLM

http://www.ptlm.com.my/index.php/cyperus-s...-kota-damansara
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Many more property reviews of various locations and various developers coming soon. Stay tuned.

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Big price drop..stay tuned
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Big price drop..stay tuned
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No price drop la, just more rebate lol
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price keep increasing then give more rebate lolz
most of developer using same tactic LPPL
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price keep increasing then give more rebate lolz
most of developer using same tactic LPPL
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calling for tropicana privilege card member to share referral fees.pls pm me.serious buyer here

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QUOTE(jaccck3 @ May 22 2015, 10:52 AM)
calling for tropicana privilege card member to share referral fees.pls pm me.serious buyer here
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Different name can use?
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Different name can use?
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Can't use.
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calling for tropicana privilege card member to share referral fees.pls pm me.serious buyer here
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Diamond TPC here to entitle add 3% rebate. What's your proposal since the TPC member's name must appear in SPA? Otherwise is 0.5% by normal introducing and it's not applicable on category "new launch". Is Cypurus still consider new launch? Pm your suggestion.
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Hi Im looking for cyperus 2 bedder unit but it's fully booked(sold) for now.
If anyone cancelling the booking of d 2bedder,please kindly contact me.
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I went to sales gallery last weekend. They offer a total of 19.5% rebate in total. Lowest price 618k for 600sqft but it is only a bare unit. They provide more rebate but taking the FF away. LPPL again?
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This is the best they can do now, if they go lower then they will have to compensate buyers who bought earlier. There are not too many unsold units, so the price will not go any lower.
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2 bedders to let go here. Interested Pls pm me. Thanks.
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QUOTE(bluemary18 @ Jun 3 2015, 11:26 PM)
I went to sales gallery last weekend. They offer a total of 19.5% rebate in total. Lowest price 618k for 600sqft but it is only a bare unit. They provide more rebate but taking the FF away. LPPL again?
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What's APPL? Just called tropicana and they mention different figures 8% x 5% x 5% = 17% effective discount. Additional 7% for bumi.

Anyway I can confirm same price as you mentioned above. For Bumi, 1.28 mil for 1,400 sf unit.


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QUOTE(dreamkiller @ Jun 10 2015, 04:10 PM)
What's APPL? Just called tropicana and they mention different figures 8% x 5% x 5% = 17% effective discount.  Additional 7% for bumi.

Anyway I can confirm same price as you mentioned above. For Bumi, 1.28 mil for 1,400 sf unit.
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LPPL.. Lan pah pah lan. The additional discount was a special offer during the weekend i went.
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so the selling price is from 1.2million(be4 discount) for smallest unit?
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sold out already, according to SA still left one studio only
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Hi. Letting go my Cyperus studio unit.
Serious buyer can contact me at 012-8138384. Cheers.
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Dear Cyperus owners. We have an owners WhatsApp group going. To join, please send me a PM with your full name, unit number and phone number and I will add you to the group.
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Hi owners, any of you letting off your units? I have a keen buyer for 2 Bedroom unit. Kindly pm me if any. Thanks
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Anyone has any idea unit -1 facing which side ?

 

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