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murrayballs
post Oct 31 2014, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Oct 23 2014, 10:49 PM)
My friend working inside Tropicana said launching in July 2015.
Still BBB after  Bayberry no BBB
With possible LRT and MRT connected, Price sure will reach sky high.  sweat.gif
Anyone have any additional info?
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shouldnt this be phase 3?

QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 30 2014, 09:59 PM)
The most 600psf.
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care to explain why?
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post Nov 1 2014, 04:32 AM

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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Oct 31 2014, 06:49 AM)
Price inflated. Crashing soon.
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but 600psf is pushing it..kd is doing more than that subsales just fine

QUOTE(corleone74 @ Oct 31 2014, 08:43 AM)
if don't crash, how? keep going up how? if wait a few years, studio 500k pun kena beli very far away, how?
anyway, it won't be 600rm psf for that location.
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if no crash (or slight price correction rather), also wont keep going up lar
there will be a tipping saturation point where market value is reach
already ure seeing certain locations at certain pricing anything above is selling damn slow
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post Nov 1 2014, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Minolta @ Nov 1 2014, 05:38 PM)
Market slow kah or even sticker game kennot help?
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perhaps true market forces already at work

anyhoo for interested buyers why not consider the strand residence?
seems much more value for money compared to TG residence
the strand IS walking distance to MRT, believe me as I walk the same distance daily (from rapid kl bus drop off to my house) plus the walkway is safe with many shops in between, unlike some dark alleys elsewhere
and and the strand mall is NICE..granted crowd is low, so its a problem if ure a commi tenant
but for residence point of view its an extremely nice mall

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post Nov 2 2014, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 2 2014, 01:11 PM)
Still feel that Cyperus is NOT a bad deal being fully furnished with a good design, nice gardens, MRT and pitching it directly against Tropics, TCM.
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too pricey leh
the strand residence more value!

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post Nov 2 2014, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(BigMan123 @ Nov 2 2014, 03:07 PM)
Imagine going to the movies by walking...going to nice cafe by walking....buying groceries by carrying...
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all can be done even with the strand, at cheaper psf
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post Nov 2 2014, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Kicimiao66cc @ Nov 2 2014, 04:05 PM)
People still go for TG. smile.gif
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haha i know, which blows my mind
im speaking as a resident of kd and vested in cascades
but cascades subsale, so not direct comparison
but the strand can get from developer at cheaper psf than TG!
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post Nov 3 2014, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(mascot_lim @ Nov 3 2014, 12:56 AM)
Haha, sometimes we are learning from each others from blow-watering, bro....smile.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 3 2014, 12:29 AM)
To some previous posts asking people to buy Strand Residences, I think TG deserves a premium of 20-30% as TG is DIRECTLY ABOVE the MRT station and the ICONIC MALL with golf view and Str*nd is near a bunch of half dead shops and mall..
It's like asking why rent at Suria KLCC when u can rent at Avenue K  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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if one can afford it, by all means its worth the premium
judging by all the high priced bashings, im guessing we're mostly not in that lavish category

on the MRT, most would agree as long as its walking distance, its kinda acceptable
and im just chipping in on my personal experience walking the same distance almost daily, its a nice stroll
can easily stop by for dinner/coffee at the MANY options of f&b in the area on the way back to the strand residence

hold ya horses guys..this ICONIC mall title deserves some reservation..whats the track record? TCM?
im hearing so many tropicana commies..avenuelah..grandelah..metropark lah..not really sold on them
judging from their pricing screwup, its more proven they can get things wrong!

on one hand i hear concern on noises from TG f&b alfresco late operations & mrt noise
u wont get that at the strand
and a view is a view..as long as youre not facing another block with no privacy, a view of KD is magnificent
with the strand, ure guaranteed to not have future buildings blocking your view

suria klcc comparison is weak as u dont have residence there
even if there are, the same argument applies, for those can lavishly afford go for klcc la
but if complaint high priced and still wanna piece of the action, avenue k la

also casa indah is not direct comparison as its upper mid range
whereas TG, the strand & cascades is on the higher end range

just my 2 cents for the sake of discussion
not an encorp agent here..also slight worry that felda bought over encorp
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post Nov 3 2014, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Hkwave @ Nov 3 2014, 07:38 AM)
If I want to invest in a property, I will always compare the price to see if I'm able to make some money after VP.
So now, this TG have mall and MRT below it. Selling at 1100psf
Casa indah 1, right next door, have mall and MRT beside it. Selling at 500psf and completed, you can rent out right away, no need to pay bank interest waiting for it to complete like TG.
Which one will make you more money? If you are buying for own stay and have lots of money to throw away, then there is no discussion or analysis needed.
Another comparison, Northpoint mid valley. 950psf. Completed with everything you dream of TG should have but may not have when VP.
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totally agreed on very little upside at 1100psf..and this is coming from a KD-loving fella
casa is awesome but it wont be a bargain as owners will definitely sell at above market price value
bear in mind those fronting persiaran surian will face mrt noise, minus those blocks facing each other, ure left with one side of optimum view and those will cost u a premium
if casa valuation goes up further, i dont see how the likes of cascades & strand will not follow suit

not really comparing to midvalley as this thread on TG, so just comparing nearby

QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 3 2014, 07:37 AM)
btw, what's strand's current psf prices? 800? the design and all is quite good but the layout is kinda awkward and too big for a 1 bedder.. the 3 bedder looks good though..
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actually not sure their pricing now haha..but cheaper than TG for sure lah
mall poor performing bad for retails..but as resident, i think u would find u have most things at the strand
and who knows, maybe all neighbourhood malls can only perform like the strand..we'll see what uptown DU and DJ mall will turn out..but agree la strand mall management sucks..but its a super nice mall..perhaps a new mangement team can turn it around..now theres another upside..also when cascades office and strand garden office tenanted, the strand mall is bound to do better
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post Nov 4 2014, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 4 2014, 07:02 AM)
I don't find any of the unit bigger than 2 br in TG to be worth it.. anything close to 1.5 mill is not as worth it as Tropicana Grande  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif Grande is my fav/top condo in Damansara
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curious
whats the appeal on grande?
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post Nov 4 2014, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 4 2014, 08:08 AM)
the view, facilities and location.. only dislike the highway la.. i mean it's worth the money  biggrin.gif
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location for realz?
anyhoo whats the occupancy rate there now
its all big sizes, doubt many genuine own stayers can afford
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post Nov 7 2014, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 7 2014, 06:08 PM)
basically it will link coz tropicana garden mall link to MRT station and sunway nexis also link to MRT station , bridge already there tongue.gif , not sure the stand and cascade will doing a bridge link to sunway mall then link to nexis  tongue.gif
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where is this new sunway mall?
driving range there?

QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 6 2014, 02:43 PM)
BRIGHT SPACE FOR BRIGHT MINDS
HOTEL & INNOVATIVE OFFICES
The innovations forged in office space design will make this the place where it is no longer work and play, but work as play. The world of opportunities is further enhanced by the new MRT station that is soon located adjacent to the development, making Tropicana Gardens the ideal investment choice for bright business minds.
Source:Tropicanagardens.com.my
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sounds like sofo/sovo coming
doubt they dare build pure office looking at supply of cascades office and encorp garden office
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post Nov 11 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 11 2014, 03:59 PM)
Most HOT is Liberty Tower @ I-City
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but that one i bet confirm ALL investors/speculators
almost minimal ownstay

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post Apr 12 2015, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 10 2015, 05:47 PM)
btw boss, nexis n cascade retail still nt doing well ah? gt 50% or not?
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QUOTE(C&D @ Apr 11 2015, 07:26 AM)
The last para - think it's less than that...
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nexis should benefit from the future MRT foot traffic

while cascades retail full potential solely depends on the success its corporate office tower and the strand garden office next door..but hard to see tenants moving in now, especially with MRT works congestion (combined with KV office oversupply)

upon MRT completion, things are bound to pick up for the offices, tho most likely still a poor return for the office towers
but cascades retail has lotsa potential..the 2 development offices has ALOT of potential catchment workers
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post Apr 12 2015, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 12 2015, 12:28 PM)
Boss very detailed analysis indeed,
Now when we look at the whole area.. i think the only SUPER wong areas will be tropicana gardens, giza, nexis+dataran sunway.. I wldnt reli add sunway galaxy to the list now but i hope they scrap the mall  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
The shops in encorp strand retail & mall arent doing well & i expect cascades retail to remain flat given the distance frm the pulse of KD.. we will see in 2 yrs la but i think any office tower super close to the mrt will do well...
Tropicana shld start the construction of the office tower la..
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yeah man a mall from sunway is gonna overkill the already super competitive mall market
but perhaps they can differentiate themselves more (example digital mall)
i have a feeling they'll end up doing an open air pseudo mall like giza & nexis
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post Apr 12 2015, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Apr 12 2015, 05:04 PM)
TG doing open air mall below arnica+baybery la.. nearby got mega empire city mall too (bad access though)  brows.gif  brows.gif
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haha then a mall by sunway would a lose-lose situation for all!

 

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