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 Dell u2713hm vs Asus PG278Q ROG, Which one should i choose?

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TSVolt
post Oct 18 2014, 10:59 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hi guyz, I need some opinion with my purchase. Im currently in the process of upgrading my pc (next is my GPU and monitor) and im planning to buy a new 27 inch monitor with 2560x1440 resolution. But im currently in a dilemma choosing between dell u2713hm or asus rog swift pg278q. Both have different panel, specs and the price is almost RM1k apart. Actually dell u2713hm is my first choice but im starting to consider the asus rog swift pg278q because of the extra features. This is a long term investment for me and i would like it to be the best purchase possible. Please help, thanks.
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post Oct 19 2014, 03:52 AM

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QUOTE(Volt @ Oct 18 2014, 10:59 PM)
Hi guyz, I need some opinion with my purchase. Im currently in the process of upgrading my pc (next is my GPU and monitor) and im planning to buy a new 27 inch monitor with 2560x1440 resolution. But im currently in a dilemma choosing between dell u2713hm or asus rog swift pg278q. Both have different panel, specs and the price is almost RM1k apart. Actually dell u2713hm is my first choice but im starting to consider the asus rog swift pg278q because of the extra features. This is a long term investment for me and i would like it to be the best purchase possible. Please help, thanks.
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well youre comparing two different monitors in terms of usage and specs

U2713HM
- if you do some work that requires critical colour accuracy, or just plain prefer better color reproduction, this is to go
- dont care abt slower response time compared to TN panel (>8ms)
- prefers Dell after sales service
- great stand features, durable monitor
- IPS suffers from the well known IPS glow, and Dell U series monitor sometimes suffer from backlight bleed issue


as for the ASUS PG278Q,
- 120Hz, GSync, 1ms response time, purely gaming oriented monitor
- lack of extra connectors (1 DP 1.2 only)
- slim bezel, sturdy stand
- TN panel have a mediocre colour accuracy if compared to IPS

personally, i wouldnt go for TN panel cause i prefer IPS nor go for gaming monitors for the gimmicky tag. but GSync is good, i can vouch for it. checked out APES's ASUS GSync monitor during their display couple of months back. the bulk of the premium is purely on GSync module too btw, otherwise the ASUS wont be as pricey

my take : go for ASUS GSync if youre looking to game mostly, and have a Nvidia GTX650 Ti Boost and above to use GSync. Otherwise, the all rounder one would be the U2713

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post Oct 21 2014, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Volt @ Oct 18 2014, 10:59 PM)
Hi guyz, I need some opinion with my purchase. Im currently in the process of upgrading my pc (next is my GPU and monitor) and im planning to buy a new 27 inch monitor with 2560x1440 resolution. But im currently in a dilemma choosing between dell u2713hm or asus rog swift pg278q. Both have different panel, specs and the price is almost RM1k apart. Actually dell u2713hm is my first choice but im starting to consider the asus rog swift pg278q because of the extra features. This is a long term investment for me and i would like it to be the best purchase possible. Please help, thanks.
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Some background
Well i sold my spare u2713hm n u2913wm
N now both gaming rig is using asus swift. My work rig is using lg 34um95. Planning to change this to Dell u3415wm curved.

that particular dell u27 is really so so in color reproduction n its a ah-ips. Gaming actually the more expensive u2713h is better on input lag n then some.

The swift is only good for gaming, moderate desktop use. I wouldnt recommend buying this if ure intending for some heavy long staring at the monitor work. It gives me a headache everytime. The u2713hm lacks many features that the u2713h has but odd reason the u2913wm has it.

Gaming on swift bliss bro. No tearing. Clearer textures during movement. Its like wtf u have been gaming before this. Best way to describe this is like buying ssd.

Gaming at 1440p with gsync. As u know dual gpu is going to be needed n 2xgtx970/980 is the best bet with the former actually better interms of value as long the game supports sli. Alot of games nowadays has a fps cap. So if sli gtx980 is working technically overkill but when the games doesnt support sli.. That single gtx980 is whats needed.

So hope this helps.

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post Oct 21 2014, 08:51 PM

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Kindly take note GSync also requires Nvidia cards. You are out of luck if you running AMD.

For AMD cards, you have to wait for freesync.
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Go for ROG swift if you really into gaming and currently have nvidia supported cards. If you really fancy on variable refresh rate (VRR), wait for AMD offerings for freesync. The demo unit should be available to reviewer end of this year. Probably Q1 you can see the retail.

But i doubt it works the same like G-sync.
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Oct 19 2014, 03:52 AM)
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I agree with everything you say and its logical for me to go with dell U2713HM then the Asus PG278Q, but I just need alil bit more info as i havent seen that asus monitor on display before. Alot of praises from the internet but the TN panel is kinda bothering me.. hmm.gif
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 21 2014, 07:27 PM)
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Thanks for sharing your experience bro.
I previously own a u2913wm too before getting my current monitor and actually i like the 21:9 as i can see alot more key frame when using adobe flash. Gaming on it is quite unique too cos the long display make you more immerse into the game, kinda miss that feeling biggrin.gif The only thing i hate about that monitor is the 1080p height, a lil bit too small for my liking. Wish it was bigger then that. So... if your lg 34um95 of yours is on sale real soon..do let me know, might get that instead hehe tongue.gif

Regarding the Asus PG278Q, how is the color reproduction? is it far from Ah-IPS panel or just a lil bit?
QUOTE(TristanX @ Oct 21 2014, 08:51 PM)
Kindly take note GSync also requires Nvidia cards. You are out of luck if you running AMD.

For AMD cards, you have to wait for freesync.
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yup, already know about that but thanks for reminding me
QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 21 2014, 09:02 PM)
Go for ROG swift if you really into gaming and currently have nvidia supported cards. If you really fancy on variable refresh rate (VRR), wait for AMD offerings for freesync. The  demo unit should be available to reviewer end of this year.  Probably Q1 you can see the retail. 

But i doubt it works the same like G-sync.
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Alot of great games are coming at the end of this years, dont know if i could wait that long to see what AMD can offer biggrin.gif haha

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QUOTE(Volt @ Oct 22 2014, 02:07 AM)
[/spoiler]I agree with everything you say and its logical for me to go with dell U2713HM then the Asus PG278Q, but I just need  alil bit more info as i havent seen that asus monitor on display before. Alot of praises from the internet but the TN panel is kinda bothering me..   hmm.gif

Thanks for sharing your experience bro.
I previously own a u2913wm too before getting my current monitor and actually i like the 21:9 as i can see alot more key frame when using adobe flash. Gaming on it is quite unique too cos the long display make you more immerse into the game, kinda miss that feeling  biggrin.gif  The only thing i hate about that monitor is the 1080p height, a lil bit too small for my liking. Wish it was bigger then that. So... if your lg 34um95 of yours is on sale real soon..do let me know, might get that instead hehe  tongue.gif

Regarding the Asus PG278Q, how is the color reproduction? is it far from Ah-IPS panel or just a lil bit?

yup, already know about that but thanks for reminding me
Alot of great games are coming at the end of this years, dont know if i could wait that long to see what AMD can offer biggrin.gif haha
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Hmm color reproduction to me looks the same. The issue is the desktop sharpness. Some icons look washedout n text are blacks are all odd. Not sure its a viewing angle etc.

Also swift has no scaler so u need to set up ure gpu as scaler with 1:1 pixel. So no fullscreen for lower res as it looks odd. Ppl dont realize 144hz is a overclocked hz. Asus had to find a 8bit 1440p tn panel n oc to 144hz.

gaming experience on this is just pure bliss.

Freesync. It wont be as easy as amd thinks. Nvidia has one of the best software teams in the world. Y gsync is expensive because they used fpga instead if creating a mass asic for the gsync module. They really put a lot of thought into this. Gsync can become cheaper if nvidia did mass asics.

Freesync is dp1.2a with extension blah blah etc. The scaler/input modules will be done if i am not mistaken by realtek, novatek, Mstar etc. My issue is the extra driver requirement to make this work.

Dont think things will be as easy as they thought. Dp1.3 has no such spec for freesync hence y nvidia is not supporting a dp extension unless it becomes a dp 1.3 spec.

Well if u want u can try it at my place end of the month. In the midst of shifting but still in kajang. Just waiting for carpenters to finish installing all the furnitures

on a side note
btw lol just tried czone postage/delivery. bought two asus ac87u from them. They used a delivery company called public something. the guy came with a motor from czone and delivered to me. not bad man. doubt they will use it for this monitor. Its crazy big box. It comes preinstalled with the stand.

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post Oct 22 2014, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 22 2014, 05:50 AM)
Hmm color reproduction to me looks the same. The issue is the desktop sharpness. Some icons look washedout n text are blacks are all odd. Not sure its a viewing angle etc.

Also swift has no scaler so u need to set up ure gpu as scaler with 1:1 pixel. So no fullscreen for lower res as it looks odd. Ppl dont realize 144hz is a overclocked hz. Asus had to find a 8bit 1440p tn panel n oc to 144hz.

gaming experience on this is just pure bliss.

Freesync. It wont be as easy as amd thinks. Nvidia has one of the best software teams in the world. Y gsync is expensive because they used fpga instead if creating a mass asic for the gsync module. They really put a lot of thought into this. Gsync can become cheaper if nvidia did mass asics.

Freesync is dp1.2a with extension blah blah etc. The scaler/input modules will be done if i am not mistaken by realtek, novatek, Mstar etc. My issue is the extra driver requirement to make this work.

Dont think things will be as easy as they thought. Dp1.3 has no such spec for freesync hence y nvidia is not supporting a dp extension unless it becomes a dp 1.3 spec.

Well if u want u can try it at my place end of the month. In the midst of shifting but still in kajang. Just waiting for carpenters to finish installing all the furnitures

on a side note
btw lol just tried czone postage/delivery. bought two asus ac87u from them. They used a delivery company called public something. the guy came with a motor from czone and delivered to me. not bad man. doubt they will use it for this monitor. Its crazy big box. It comes preinstalled with the stand.
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I think you are one of people that i know who actually understand the currenty situation of AMD Freesync and G-Sync. I've hard time explaining about the state of Freesync and DP1.2a over the internet. doh.gif

Lot of people think that DP1.2a and DP1.3 will have adaptive refresh rate, but the fact is those 'standard' are optional. It is not a mandatory VESA spec.

Well, i still give the benefit of doubt until AMD can actually demo the thing. Still holding my VRR monitor purchase.
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post Oct 22 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Oct 22 2014, 07:55 AM)
I think you are one of people that i know who actually understand the currenty situation of AMD Freesync and G-Sync.  I've hard time explaining about the state of Freesync and DP1.2a over the internet.  doh.gif

Lot of people think that DP1.2a and DP1.3 will have adaptive refresh rate, but the fact is those 'standard' are optional. It is not a mandatory VESA spec.

Well, i still give the benefit of doubt until AMD can actually demo the thing. Still holding my VRR monitor purchase.
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Yeah n if u noticed in ocn alot of amd users cant run 144hz on the swift. Only 120hz. Amd kept saying cable etc n now said has to be 1m only for it to work.

That it self is a big question mark on r9 290x freesync capability based on its builtin scaler. Since swift has none.

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