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TSiwubpreve
post Oct 17 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Oct 17 2014, 04:47 PM)
Not all subcon are bad.

Not only MRT, almost all construction sites got accident occurred, for MRT such huge project just 3-4 cases considered very less d. Other small project maybe ur current house got pipu died during construction period u also dont know.

Cuz will old faster and low pay. Just like Singapore construction always got vacancy for Malaysian or Indonesian engineer. Because Singaporean want work inside office.
FYI for project like MRT, people in mmc gamuda who doing all these paper work is very high paid
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there are many type of contractor. like local chinaman contractor, in order to increase profit they usually spend less on preliminary cost. for Japanese and Korean contractor, they care about safety so much. they truly practice safety first profit second kind of concept.

u know what are those cost would be spent in safety issue? there are plenty
1. sufficient scaffolding
2. sufficient guard rail (on high rise building)
3. safety net (those green colour u saw usually from outside)
4. competent safety officer that do his job well
5. well maintenance on machinery especially tower crane, passenger hoist
6. daily assembly to educate those foreign worker on daily basis
7. a lot more..
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post Oct 17 2014, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 05:15 PM)
not suitable for girl working there. there do have some girl are engineer, but very very less. but there have a lot of girls worked as QS.

generally girl is not suitable.
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I used to do civil work. lady QS and engineer seen before la... but I wondering about female general worker la

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TSiwubpreve
post Oct 17 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(pijaklu @ Oct 17 2014, 02:54 PM)
I found out that recent quarry materials are hard to secure good grade in compliance with condition of contract. The supplier keeps throwing excused that quarry material in good grade are hard to produce due to irregular mining source or being closed down by authority, but our client not buying this excuse. What way to protect our best interest?

If you insist good grade, supplier will sell you like 30% higher rates. It is common nowaday?
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if u work as contractor, what u have to do is very simple, just be genuine and do what is right. this is because contractor just a middle person, u are in between client and supplier.

what u have to do is to get few supplier to get the specific item u want, what grade. and tell them u also get other to quote the same thing. so they will felt pressure and quote u according to market price.

eg. let say got a project demand conquas standard (mean very high quality when come to standard), and u ask a subcon to quote u for let's say plastering work. usually they will tell u "hi mr. contractor, I will give u 2 rate, 1 is conquas rate 1 is normal rate". just reply to them, "hey mr. subcontractor, just quote according to the project specification. i'll get other to do the same thing" so they will felt threaten a bit coz they can't quote high if they want to get the job.

so u just have to get few cost comparison and the market price will surface to u.

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post Oct 17 2014, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(pijaklu @ Oct 17 2014, 08:02 AM)
rm25 for 50kg, u do the math
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Really? How come sabah only rm17? When everything is more expensive here?

I buy one bag also that price wor

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post Oct 17 2014, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 17 2014, 05:32 PM)
I used to do civil work. lady QS and engineer seen before la... but I wondering about female general worker la

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hot girl will get better pay in other job, so why suffer in construction work?
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post Oct 17 2014, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(pijaklu @ Oct 17 2014, 02:57 PM)
Workmanship and quality issue.

Indonesian workers wont bulge in giving competitive rates for supply of labours. no doubt their workmanship is average satisfy but their high rates nowaday are killing the industry. They are very demanding nowaday, unlike old day.

If we opted with Bangala or Nepal or Vietnamese as construction workers, although their wages are much cheaper than Indon, but 80% of them are unskilled and lazy.

What would be the best way to overcome this labour issue?
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u get what u pay for. cost of labourer from high to low. skill also from high to low.

1. Chinese labourer (mostly is carpenter (furniture), plasterer)
2. Indonesian labourer
3. Myanmar / Pakistani / Vietnamese
4. Bangladeshi

this u have to control yourself. I can tell u u get an Indonesian worker, ur quality might not be achieve the satisfactory u want. u have to get qaqc to control the quality of work and rectify when it is wrong at the beginning. not just about labourer. qaqc does matter too.
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post Oct 17 2014, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(pijaklu @ Oct 17 2014, 03:01 PM)
Main Contractor profit margins. Years before 2008, Main Con still can secure a project at least with 15% profit margin

But nowaday, Main con are suffering thin line of profit margin around 5% to 10%. That if there are no excessive wastage,  site corruption and LAD imposed.

Are Main Con business secured nowaday? From my opinion, 8 out of 10 Main Con firms nowaday are poorly performed.

There are no association in malaysia that will safe guard their best interest from these main con. I believe CIDB and MBAM only interested with big player Main Con.
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main contractor have to be competitive to get the job. u mark up 15% how u get the job? a competent contractor that know how to plan the work well, they just mark up 3% to 4% as they already have in mind how the work would look like b4 start the work. able to foreseen what would happen during construction and hence prevent a lot of unnecessary expenses. they get additional profit through VO work.

nowadays, high end project mostly is cost overrun. why? because quality always failed. they have to spend extra cost to rectify those poor quality of works. high end project demand good quality of product. u know u spend 1 million on a unit, how fussy would u be?
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post Oct 17 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(call me random @ Oct 17 2014, 04:39 PM)
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i hv a question.. this tered here

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3381419
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hi there, good question though irrelevant to my thread. if I were u, I will foreseen the unforeseen. i'll put myself in the shoe of interviewer and think critically what would I ask the interviewee. let's said if I wanna interview a company for a position, I will study their company background. and imagine what kind of question they will ask by pretended I'm in their shoe. maybe they will ask me what is the reason I change the job? why I want to leave current company? what are the strength I have? and etc.

when come to paperwork of course u have to let them know u are sincere. like resume have to put a picture there. will put the detailed information they wanted to know such as what kind of project u handle b4, how much the project worth, the reason u leave. this will show to them they u are genuinely want to get a job and prepared for it. this also reflect ur attitude long b4 they see u personally biggrin.gif

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post Oct 17 2014, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 05:24 PM)
there are many type of contractor. like local chinaman contractor, in order to increase profit they usually spend less on preliminary cost. for Japanese and Korean contractor, they care about safety so much. they truly practice safety first profit second kind of concept.

u know what are those cost would be spent in safety issue? there are plenty
1. sufficient scaffolding
2. sufficient guard rail (on high rise building)
3. safety net (those green colour u saw usually from outside)
4. competent safety officer that do his job well
5. well maintenance on machinery especially tower crane, passenger hoist
6. daily assembly to educate those foreign worker on daily basis
7. a lot more..
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Yes, my company got a project with Japanese contractor, they are really discipline and put safety as their first priority, but definitely not mrt project
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post Oct 17 2014, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Oct 17 2014, 05:54 PM)
Yes, my company got a project with Japanese contractor, they are really discipline and put safety as their first priority, but definitely not mrt project
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what ur company doing? Japanese contractor got class 1. like first tier contractor, 2nd tier contractor. first tier is like shimizu, takenaka, taisei and etc. they all listed company in Tokyo. 2nd tier are plenty.
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post Oct 17 2014, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 05:59 PM)
what ur company doing? Japanese contractor got class 1. like first tier contractor, 2nd tier contractor. first tier is like shimizu, takenaka, taisei and etc. they all listed company in Tokyo. 2nd tier are plenty.
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post Oct 17 2014, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(pijaklu @ Oct 17 2014, 04:02 PM)
rm25 for 50kg, u do the math
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Why your cement so expensive one ? tongue.gif

I see the thread very funny.

1. Iwubpreve start the thread of Q&A

2. Then pijaklu post 5 questions straight, the last one challenge TS's understanding on construction market

3. Then someone ask how much is 1 kilo cement

4. Then pijaklu answer like he is the TS. Is Iwubpreve = pijaklu ? Forgot to log out ? tongue.gif

Anyway, pijaklu's first answer to the question is way off mark...



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post Oct 17 2014, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 05:08 PM)
OPC (ordinary Portland cement) is control price item. RM17 / bag. 50kg per bag. minimum purchase is 400 bag la. when unload the cement from trailer they will charge abt 30 cents / bag.

if u only wanna buy 1 bag, hardware shop sell RM20++.

cement will "expired" also. mean those cement that remain unsold for long period after manufactured. so those cement will sell at control price minus RM2 or RM3. just like BLR -2% something like that.

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Isn't the control price increased ?

And what is the rebate now ? Got to consider that also. Recently got price war ?
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post Oct 17 2014, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 01:30 PM)
hey guys, u may ask me anything about construction industry and i'll try my best to answer all ur question.
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1. There are many types of concrete, how to order?
Malaysia have which type?
When we buy cement via the concrete truck, how to know if thye give the correct concrete we want?

2. Why always every flats, apartments, condos and high rises have leaking problems from floor above after 10 to 15 years?

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QUOTE(Xisuka @ Oct 17 2014, 06:32 PM)
1. There are many types of concrete, how to order?
Malaysia have which type?
When we buy cement via the concrete truck, how to know if thye give the correct concrete we want?

2. Why always every flats, apartments, condos and high rises have leaking problems from floor above after 10 to 15 years?
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So the site engineer need to do slump test.


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post Oct 17 2014, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Oct 17 2014, 06:55 PM)
So the site engineer need to do slump test.
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Thanks for the respond.

How long will we know the result of the slump test?

how about the rest of the questions?
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QUOTE(Xisuka @ Oct 17 2014, 07:01 PM)
Thanks for the respond.

How long will we know the result of the slump test?

how about the rest of the questions?
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Slump test can know directly. But need do a few more cube test which required send to lab and wait for report

Regarding the leaking, I not so sure. I'm still quite fresh in this field and work not really related with building works.
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post Oct 17 2014, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 17 2014, 06:22 PM)
Isn't the control price increased ?

And what is the rebate now ? Got to consider that also. Recently got price war ?
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about 17 plus minus. will increase decrease 1. some trading house give u rebate is because the cement keep too long already. so they sold it cheap to clear the old stock. will hardened when in humid weather if keep it long time
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post Oct 17 2014, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Oct 17 2014, 06:55 PM)
So the site engineer need to do slump test.
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wrong bro, slump test to test the mobility of concrete la doh.gif

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post Oct 17 2014, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 17 2014, 07:13 PM)
wrong bro, slump test to test the mobility of concrete la doh.gif
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Slump test is for workability bro. Maybe I misund his question either, slump test to make sure it achieved the quality we wanted

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