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TSiwubpreve
post Oct 20 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Oct 20 2014, 11:19 AM)
is it cheap or just a clueless act to build just 180sqf for 2nd floor? I think I just wanna hire indon labour to avoid expensive cost from engineer. Indon laour is enough and I will not tell local authority ma because I am in G&G residential and it's only 180sqf without roof for 2nd storey
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it's not advisable to do it without getting endorsement from engineer and approval from local authority. even u can over design it to ensure it's perfectly secure, sometimes unforeseen thing will just happen. if something happen and even not due to ur fault, not due to ur structural design issue, they will still pin point at u as u didn't get endorsement for the work and no approval from local authority at first place. so u lose the case b4 even it require to assess ur secured design.

anyway it ain't expensive also la. all those material is cheap. maybe u estimate about RM125/sqft for ur work. normal finishes, not expensive type. but endorsement and local authority expenses would be a lot as ur quantity is small yet the same procedure had to be go through.

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post Oct 20 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Oct 20 2014, 10:32 AM)
should I build 2nd storey for my house? to build 2nd storey is expensive 2x cost of the 1st floor? how can I renovate my house with cheapest rate? I still have 180sqf free at the back of my house(for bedroom and kitchen) and plan to have 2nd storey too for dry the clothes. should I build 2nd storey?

2nd storey overrated?
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there are no local council in malaysia that allow you to top up another floor of building structure on existing floor unless you demolish and rebuilt.
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post Oct 20 2014, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Oct 20 2014, 10:34 AM)
why suppliers have more profit than the producers? producers only 20% net margin whereas suppliers can profit 30%
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not really, supplier or trading have to give competitive credit terms like 60days 90 days 120 days or 150 days to secure a order. but most of the due payment will not be honored accordingly. profits is not the main concern for them, its "good paymaster"
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post Oct 20 2014, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 20 2014, 11:26 AM)
it's not advisable to do it without getting endorsement from engineer and approval from local authority. even u can over design it to ensure it's perfectly secure, sometimes unforeseen thing will just happen. if something happen and even not due to ur fault, not due to ur structural design issue, they will still pin point at u as u didn't get endorsement for the work and no approval from local authority at first place. so u lose the case b4 even it require to assess ur secured design.

anyway it ain't expensive also la. all those material is cheap. maybe u estimate about RM125/sqft for ur work. normal finishes, not expensive type. but endorsement and local authority expenses would be a lot as ur quantity is small yet the same procedure had to be go through.
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rm 125/sqft. means I need to spend rm 50k. not cheap too.
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(pijaklu @ Oct 20 2014, 11:57 AM)
there are no local council in malaysia that allow you to top up another floor of building structure on existing floor unless you demolish and rebuilt.
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If underpinning work and enlarging the columns at below level are sufficient to cater for the load at upper floor, I believe its not necessary to demolish and rebuilt the whole structure.
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Oct 20 2014, 12:45 PM)
rm 125/sqft. means I need to spend rm 50k. not cheap too.
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this is the guide to budgeting. at the end could be low. anyway u have 2 storeys mang. substructure, ground slab, upper slab and a roof.
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:07 PM

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if i wan to learn construction... ? which level should i start?
TSiwubpreve
post Oct 20 2014, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(heLL_bOy @ Oct 20 2014, 01:07 PM)
if i wan to learn construction... ? which level should i start?
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construction is so broad. what u wanna learn? there is no "one man show" company that can perform all the trade. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 20 2014, 01:13 PM

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i thinking to work it out in construction line... what do you think? my age 26 this year is that too late?

i feel construction line can earn big buck nod.gif
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(heLL_bOy @ Oct 20 2014, 01:13 PM)
i thinking to work it out in construction line... what do you think? my age 26 this year is that too late?

i feel construction line can earn big buck  nod.gif
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construction industry so broad. variety of profession. what u want? the only party who earn big buck is developer.
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:17 PM

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ohhh... what you working as now?
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:19 PM

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nowdays if doing sub-con still can earn? or just so-so only hmm.gif
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:19 PM

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ohhh... what you working as now?
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:20 PM

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if i want to build a house on my own agriculture land, should i submit any plan to majlis perbandaran or land office for approval?
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(heLL_bOy @ Oct 20 2014, 01:19 PM)
nowdays if doing sub-con still can earn? or just so-so only hmm.gif
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can. have to be very competent. nowadays joinery work have the most profit margin. all the raw material is readily available.
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(cicakubin @ Oct 20 2014, 01:20 PM)
if i want to build a house on my own agriculture land, should i submit any plan to majlis perbandaran or land office for approval?
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house for agricultural purpose? like build a barn?
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post Oct 20 2014, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 20 2014, 01:25 PM)
house for agricultural purpose? like build a barn?
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house for human to live la duh
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post Oct 20 2014, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(cicakubin @ Oct 20 2014, 01:47 PM)
house for human to live la duh
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refer section 115 of national land code,

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115. Implied conditions affecting land subject to the category "agriculture". (1) Where any alienated land is subject by virtue of any provision of this Act to the category "agriculture", the following implied conditions shall, subject to sub-section (3), apply thereto-
(a) that no building shall be erected on the land other than a building or buildings to be used for one or more of the purposes specified or referred to in subsection (4);


subsection 4 as follow,

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(4) The purposes referred to in paragraph (a) of sub-section (1) are the following-
(a) the purposes of a dwelling-house for the proprietor of the land or any other person lawfully in occupation thereof, or for the servants of, or any persons employed for agricultural purposes by, the proprietor or any other such person:
Provided that the dwelling-house for the proprietor of the land or any other person lawfully in occupation thereof shall not occupy more than one-fifth of the whole area of the land or two hectares, whichever is the lesser;
(b) the purposes of agriculture;
© the purpose of extracting or processing raw material from any agricultural produce of such land;
(d) the purpose of preparing for distribution any such material or produce, or any honey-bees, livestock or reptiles kept or bred on such land, or the produce of such livestock or aquaculture on such land;
(e) the purposes of providing educational, medical, sanitary or other welfare facilities, including (so far as they are provided primarily for use by persons employed on the land) facilities for the purchase of goods and other commodities;
(f) any purpose which the State Authority may prescribe for the purposes of this section by rules under section 14;
(g) any purpose which the State Authority may think fit to authorise in the circumstances of any particular case;
(h) any purpose incidental to a purpose falling within any of the preceding paragraphs.

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post Oct 20 2014, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 20 2014, 02:18 PM)
refer section 115 of national land code,
subsection 4 as follow,
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u never entered any village in malaysia do u? haish, i guess i entered wrong forum
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post Oct 20 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Oct 20 2014, 01:15 PM)
construction industry so broad. variety of profession. what u want? the only party who earn big buck is developer.
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how to become a developer? I saw many developers do not have architect or civil engineer but economy background

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