there will always be hackers, doesn't matter what game. those with leaderboards are more proned to hackers like Pacman Championship Edition DX. you can check the #1 score and see the replay, you'll facepalm all the way

4X games are more time consuming for me as 4X have victory conditions. Grand Strategy games end on a certain date. Like EU4 it's 1800s and you can quit anytime as well. Also you can start at any time as well.

MW2's hacker problem isn't as bad as blackops.

Surprisingly there were more hackers in BO compared to MW2 despite the introduction of theatre mode.

Barely touched ghost, BO2 is smg fest

quite a few when it first launched, haven't played it in a long time tho

eh, suddenly i thought... Titanfall is a multi-player game only? or is it like CoD; solo and multi-player? 

I actually learned to play in under 5 hours for EU4. It's not that hard. Besides, depending on how you're playing 4X, it can be done the same with Grand Strategy games as well. But the difference is, you can't really steamroll in Grand Strategy games. Hence why I'm not playing 4x games anymore. Too boring with predictable outcomes and dumb AI.

The UI is pretty dull, that's for sure. No denying that actually. However get past the UI you'll find the history setting mind-f*kin-blowing. Like how playing Japan, you conquer Ming (in EU4) or Qing (in Victoria 2) or doing the dissolving the Holy Roman Empire with France, or playing UK and colonizing the heck out of Africa. The opposite can happen as well when playing Malacca (with Ayuthyya raining blows on you) or playing US and having the British knocking on your door every few decades.

The steep learning curve, I agree. However like other games such as Kerbal Space Program or Prison Architect which have ~3-5 hours of learning curve. You got to agree that those games are legendary when it comes to the enjoyment you get vs cut and dry 4X.

When talking about 4X, it's usually Civ V and recently Civ BE. With Civ V, you can still take in the historical setting. But Civ BE lost it, hence you got to agree that historicity of a game is quite important.

Umm, the AI in 4X games being dumb is already a known fact. I didn't say that people who play 4X are dumb did I?

Please keep your misbegotten communication errors to yourself, thank you.

You got to agree that those games are legendary when it comes to the enjoyment you get vs cut and dry 4X.

Chill you two..  make peace not war.. 

Each to their own... Civ franchise is already a well known classic and loved by many.

EU4 type of grand strategy also have a large following. Yet ppl lovin' Civ5 might not end up lovin' EU4... and vice versa too. Some will like both.

Other turn-based/4X games like AoW, HoMM, XCOM, Endless Legend are all also awesome.

I personally like to try out as many games as I can. Every game plays differently and has its own fun factor. No need to criticize each other.. most important is to have fun! 

only problem is budget  so sales time is always a good time to buy them all and try them all!

Everyone speaking about money being the problem..

Money is not the big problem here, the big problem is time.. When are we gonna finish all this backlogs!

Umm, the AI being terrible is already a known fact for 4X games as in what it does is mostly to turtle/harass/expand. It doesn't really react to your own strategy which makes cookie cutter builds achieve victory without problems once you find it.

I didn't say people who enjoy 4X games are retarded. Please don't put words into my mouth. You really like to do thisa a lot, you know that?

People do enjoy 4X games as well. It's the same as Bad Rats or even Big Rigs. Even when the game is broken, it does bring enjoyment. Playing those games certainly ain't retarded but still comparing it to 4X is a little bit weird, but that's a point there if you don't realize what I'm talking about.

I'm not saying my taste is more superior. I'm saying that I don't have to deal with dumb AI in Grand Strategy games. But I have to deal with dull UI as well as steep learning curves. To each his own. I'm not saying Grand Strategy is the holy grail of strategy games. I'm just saying that I can't return to 4X games as I can never deal with it's dumb AI anymore.

I am posting a balanced discussion. You're the one reading it wrong. I still think 4X games are good but not for me as I can't deal with dumb AI that will always lose to cookie cutter builds.

Edit: And one more thing, if you just spend 5 hours to learn Grand Strategy, I'm pretty sure you'll come to same conclusion as I am. And I mean without the bias that you're feeling right now cause I hurt you when I said 4X games have dumb AI.

Time is always my problem, if not finished my physical games backlog already.

You did? I change of heart ey. Actually that is a good decision, considering VC takes quite a while to finish, and the game is suited for you.

Long time already give up for me. Just trying finishing my physical backlogs..Digital..maybe in the afterlife.

Better wait for reviews. The latest Space Hulk was so so only.

I hated the last Space Hulk game because of the friggin slow movement speed, it's like watching old people with arthritis moving.

I have also completed the latest Space Hulk. Particularly tough when you want to save everybody.

Wondering if you guys can help me here. Just something simple.
So i'm gonna do a Master's Thesis in Video Games and I need some more topics to think about, to kickstart my brain.
I've been thinking of doing a research in Story Telling in Video Games, but it seems too general and probably a lot of people have done it already. So I have to narrow down to something specific.

Anything or everything is fine, if you have any ideas. A suggestion of topic of study on Video Games of any sort, or narrowing the story telling topic down to something like in single player games, in mmo, in rpg, or any other interesting ideas.

Example of a simple topic : Story telling in Video games, Narration in Video games, Architecture Design in Video games and etc.

That one could work. The issue that we face and we have the most 

Registration will close on 9th of November.
Still have around 50 slots I think.