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Mazda 3 and Mazda 6 high fuel consumption problem?, Need your feedback
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Oct 3 2014, 10:11 AM
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Oct 3 2014, 10:15 AM
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want fc low, buy kancil lah lel lel, big car not for poorfag
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Oct 3 2014, 10:54 AM
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This is fuelly results for Mazda 6 http://www.fuelly.com/car/mazda/6/2013
All cars these days claim to have the technology to improve FC. Even if u drive Axia and is heavy footed or stuck in jam, ur FC will skyrocket. Same applies to a Mazda 6 or a Honda Accord or a Camry. I'm now using an accord 2.0 which gives me about 11-12km/l on 60% city drive 40% penang bridge drive. During days i am more heavy footed, it drops to 8km/l. Therefore, drive management is important in order for u to get good FC. For ur car, i think u pay ur loan every month. so the most important thing is that when u go to the bank on a monthly basis, u will feel that what u are paying for is worth every single penny becus u like the car! Just my 2 cents as well |
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Oct 3 2014, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(kenviro @ Oct 2 2014, 04:03 PM) I am seriously considering to buy either Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 (if the latter can be gotten for under RM150K) but I am concerned about the high fuel consumption (FC). I never thought that there was a problem with FC for Mazda cars since Mazda have been promoting their Skyactiv technology in which one of the plus points is the good fuel economy of their cars with this particular technology. to answer your 2nd question, it is possible to set your FC per trip, you just need to reset Trip A to 0 after every pump, in settings of the car, set reset FC on trip AIt only occurred to me that Mazda cars could have this high FC problem when I visited the Mazda 3 Facebook page and saw a comment from this person, Ed War, that his new Mazda 3 was having a high FC problem. The FC claim by Mazda themselves for the Mazda 3 is 5.7L/100 KM but Ed War was only able to get around 11.4L/100 KM. Not only is that a significantly higher FC but that's about twice the claimed FC by Mazda. That is certainly a significant cause of concern for prospective Mazda 3 buyers. I mean, if the FC figure was about 2L/100 KM or even 3L/100 KM higher, then it's acceptable but for it to be twice the claimed FC, that's not acceptable at all. Anyway, if you want to read the comments by Ed War about his Mazda 3, you can visit: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...35147626&type=1 Another link is here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...35147626&type=1 Being more interested in Mazda 6, I took a test drive on Sunday at the Mazda showroom along Old Klang Road. I don't what the showroom did to the Mazda 6, but I saw the average FC was 20.7L/100 KM after the test drive (it was just above 22L/100 KM before the test drive). This led to to have concern that not only is Mazda 3 having high FC problem but Mazda 6 has such high FC problem too. I attach a photo I took of the reading for you to see. I have two questions: 1. What is the FC for your Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 if you are driving a 2013 or 2014 model? 2. Is it possible to set the average FC meter so that you can see the average fuel consumption for just one trip (could be 5 KM or 10 KM)? If so, how do you set it? I had asked the salesperson but he is not aware that it can be set for just one trip. i am not sure how the owner acheive 11.4l/100km, my average is bout 8.5l/100km, 70% urban with occasional jams and 30% highways. i am quite heavy footed as well but i don't zoom for no reason. definitely cant compare to the claimed value by mazda. but some other members manage to acheive 6.7l/100km here are my last 7 fuel logs if u wanna know actual consumption (8.59l/100km) avg This post has been edited by derravile: Oct 3 2014, 12:30 PM |
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Oct 3 2014, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(derravile @ Oct 3 2014, 12:28 PM) to answer your 2nd question, it is possible to set your FC per trip, you just need to reset Trip A to 0 after every pump, in settings of the car, set reset FC on trip A to answer how to achieve 11.4l/100km . i am not sure how the owner acheive 11.4l/100km, my average is bout 8.5l/100km, 70% urban with occasional jams and 30% highways here are my last 7 fuel logs if u wanna know actual consumption (8.59l/100km) avg because it is call AVERAGE FC on the meter.. and those driver depends on it .. . all i can says is ... most car average meter will reset by itself.. so when u just drove out from car park .. stuck all the way to work it will show very very bad fc... coz it calculate base on 100km average.... if u takes 2 hours to jam to office says 20km away .. u are doing like 1 hour for 10km only .. base on the computer calculation .. to reach 100km .. u will need 10 hours.. so due to stuck in jam .. stop and go .. ur FC is doing worse n worse ... it will juz MULTIPLY to 100km and show u the average u need to hit 100km ... (REMEMBER ... even on IDLE .. your car burn fuel .. although u need maybe 0.2 L to move per km ... maybe ur idling take up another 0.2 L already) if u are on high way .. cruising says 100km/h ... u burning 6L ... to achieve that the ecu will tell u .. u need 6L .. look you are not wasting fuel on start stop .. It is different on your case cause u calculate by full tank refuel.. as always the COMPUTER is calculating AVERAGE Fuel Consumption only ... it will be based on TIME and Distance travel. |
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Oct 3 2014, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 3 2014, 12:35 PM) to answer how to achieve 11.4l/100km . yes, of cause if u stuck in jam most of the time, 11.4l/100km, just being sarcastic therebecause it is call AVERAGE FC on the meter.. and those driver depends on it .. . all i can says is ... most car average meter will reset by itself.. so when u just drove out from car park .. stuck all the way to work it will show very very bad fc... coz it calculate base on 100km average.... if u takes 2 hours to jam to office says 20km away .. u are doing like 1 hour for 10km only .. base on the computer calculation .. to reach 100km .. u will need 10 hours.. so due to stuck in jam .. stop and go .. ur FC is doing worse n worse ... it will juz MULTIPLY to 100km and show u the average u need to hit 100km ... (REMEMBER ... even on IDLE .. your car burn fuel .. although u need maybe 0.2 L to move per km ... maybe ur idling take up another 0.2 L already) if u are on high way .. cruising says 100km/h ... u burning 6L ... to achieve that the ecu will tell u .. u need 6L .. look you are not wasting fuel on start stop .. It is different on your case cause u calculate by full tank refuel.. as always the COMPUTER is calculating AVERAGE Fuel Consumption only ... it will be based on TIME and Distance travel. i figure the most accurate to measure actual cost incurred and mileage, u travel whatever you pay |
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Oct 3 2014, 01:30 PM
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Oct 3 2014, 01:56 PM
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Oct 3 2014, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 3 2014, 01:56 PM) GO KOPITIAM LA .. YOU TAU APA PASAL KERETA LA! i think i better go kopitiam, this section people so serious, mazda 6 size car wanna get 6L/100km, my pariah smaller size proton also kenot get D segment can have B segment FC also ... who says tala ... Vios TRD is a D segment car (at least according to someone MeToo |
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Oct 3 2014, 03:11 PM
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So far I have to say that derraville's answer is the best answer of all the replies to this thread so far. While most others are not answering my question or even criticising my concern of high FC in Mazda 3 or Mazda 6, derraville has been most helpful with his answers.
I think many didn't get my point. I am not expecting Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 to get the best FC. Or to have FC of a segment-B or segment-C car. My concern is that the Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 shouldn't be getting twice the claimed FC. I personally believe that Ed War wasn't stuck in the traffic jam most of the time. If he was, I think he would have hold up his hands and admit it because no one would get a good FC during a traffic jam. Anyway, I would take derraville's average FC in his Mazda if it was offered to me because I think the FC of his Mazda is acceptable. I assume that derraville is driving a Mazda 3. QUOTE(derravile @ Oct 3 2014, 12:28 PM) to answer your 2nd question, it is possible to set your FC per trip, you just need to reset Trip A to 0 after every pump, in settings of the car, set reset FC on trip A i am not sure how the owner acheive 11.4l/100km, my average is bout 8.5l/100km, 70% urban with occasional jams and 30% highways. i am quite heavy footed as well but i don't zoom for no reason. definitely cant compare to the claimed value by mazda. but some other members manage to acheive 6.7l/100km here are my last 7 fuel logs if u wanna know actual consumption (8.59l/100km) avg |
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Oct 3 2014, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(kenviro @ Oct 3 2014, 03:11 PM) So far I have to say that derraville's answer is the best answer of all the replies to this thread so far. While most others are not answering my question or even criticising my concern of high FC in Mazda 3 or Mazda 6, derraville has been most helpful with his answers. I think many didn't get my point. I am not expecting Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 to get the best FC. Or to have FC of a segment-B or segment-C car. My concern is that the Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 shouldn't be getting twice the claimed FC. I personally believe that Ed War wasn't stuck in the traffic jam most of the time. If he was, I think he would have hold up his hands and admit it because no one would get a good FC during a traffic jam. Anyway, I would take derraville's average FC in his Mazda if it was offered to me because I think the FC of his Mazda is acceptable. I assume that derraville is driving a Mazda 3. yes i am driving the mazda 3 ps: only 1 "L" in my name~ |
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Oct 3 2014, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(kenviro @ Oct 3 2014, 03:11 PM) So far I have to say that derraville's answer is the best answer of all the replies to this thread so far. While most others are not answering my question or even criticising my concern of high FC in Mazda 3 or Mazda 6, derraville has been most helpful with his answers. If you are seriously believing bluntly what the manufacturer claims then you are in over your head. Why do you need to be concern that the car shouldnt be getting twice the claimed FC? Instead your question should be what are the real world average figures. I think many didn't get my point. I am not expecting Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 to get the best FC. Or to have FC of a segment-B or segment-C car. My concern is that the Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 shouldn't be getting twice the claimed FC. I personally believe that Ed War wasn't stuck in the traffic jam most of the time. If he was, I think he would have hold up his hands and admit it because no one would get a good FC during a traffic jam. Anyway, I would take derraville's average FC in his Mazda if it was offered to me because I think the FC of his Mazda is acceptable. I assume that derraville is driving a Mazda 3. |
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Oct 3 2014, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(kenviro @ Oct 3 2014, 03:11 PM) this is the 3rd mention of fuelly.com:http://www.fuelly.com/car/mazda/6 why don't you check that out instead of asking here? |
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Oct 3 2014, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 3 2014, 01:56 PM) GO KOPITIAM LA .. YOU TAU APA PASAL KERETA LA! Woi.. this is a guy who is choosing to buy a Mazda 3/6 instead of a Vios...D segment can have B segment FC also ... who says tala ... Vios TRD is a D segment car (at least according to someone MeToo Means lost cause jor... dont keep tagging me to waste my time here! |
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Oct 3 2014, 04:26 PM
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I am only aware of this fuelly.com website in the last few days.
This website looks like it is more applicable to drivers in the US. When I click on the dropdown box for "Any Engine", I don't see the 2 litre edition of the engine. Under "Any Submodel", I also don't know which to choose. QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 3 2014, 03:32 PM) this is the 3rd mention of fuelly.com: http://www.fuelly.com/car/mazda/6 why don't you check that out instead of asking here? |
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Oct 3 2014, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(kenviro @ Oct 3 2014, 04:26 PM) I am only aware of this fuelly.com website in the last few days. summary/average: they go between 11-13km/l and chances of heavy traffic jams in the US would be lesser compared to us.This website looks like it is more applicable to drivers in the US. When I click on the dropdown box for "Any Engine", I don't see the 2 litre edition of the engine. Under "Any Submodel", I also don't know which to choose. expect 8-10 km/L heck, didn't a mazda 3 posted his FC? considering a 6 is much heavier, further reduce maybe 2-3 km/l to be around 10 km/l maybe? 10 km/l is about 10l/100km, half of what was shown on the meter i guess The reason why everyone else criticized on this thread, is that when you're buying a heavy D segment car, FC should be the least of your concern considering you're paying a huge premium for the car already. If you're really that concerned, and the Mazda 6 seems to be in fact not a great performer in FC, consider another car then. (like the turbo charged ones that are in smaller cc that could probably be more frugal in FC) =edit= corrected previous mistake on mazda3 This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Oct 3 2014, 04:39 PM |
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Oct 3 2014, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Oct 3 2014, 04:35 PM) summary/average: they go between 11-13km/l and chances of heavy traffic jams in the US would be lesser compared to us. second that, thts the reason y this thread got flamed so muchexpect 8-10 km/L heck, didn't a mazda 3 posted his FC? considering a 6 is much heavier, further reduce maybe 2-3 km/l to be around 10 km/l maybe? 10 km/l is about 10l/100km, half of what was shown on the meter i guess The reason why everyone else criticized on this thread, is that when you're buying a heavy D segment car, FC should be the least of your concern considering you're paying a huge premium for the car already. If you're really that concerned, and the Mazda 6 seems to be in fact not a great performer in FC, consider another car then. (like the turbo charged ones that are in smaller cc that could probably be more frugal in FC) =edit= corrected previous mistake on mazda3 in overall, i would consider my mazda3 FC to be reasonable, if u are a light footer, a good FC is achievable (of cause, w/o much jam) the tip to force yourself into being a light footer, or atleast to reduce pressing too much, shift to manual gear shift. don't shift gear unnecessary |
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Oct 3 2014, 07:08 PM
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Why do cars in European and american country even with the same engine as us gets better fuel economy? Is it because of the weather? Hot weather in Malaysia effects fuel economy?
Macam my car it says combined city and highway I will get 7L/100km, but my journey everyday is 90% highway yet its hard for me to get consumption of less than 9L/100km |
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Oct 3 2014, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 3 2014, 07:08 PM) Why do cars in European and american country even with the same engine as us gets better fuel economy? Is it because of the weather? Hot weather in Malaysia effects fuel economy? 1. No need to use aircond as muchMacam my car it says combined city and highway I will get 7L/100km, but my journey everyday is 90% highway yet its hard for me to get consumption of less than 9L/100km 2. Not as much jam as we have. Yes in cities they have jams, but the US is BIG. There are a lot of people who live in suburban neighbourhoods and they don't have as much traffic jams |
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Oct 3 2014, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(sanadi @ Oct 3 2014, 07:13 PM) 1. No need to use aircond as much Ah, yes, aircond! No wonder Proton cars fuel consumption is so bad! Their airconds is super duper freezing cold2. Not as much jam as we have. Yes in cities they have jams, but the US is BIG. There are a lot of people who live in suburban neighbourhoods and they don't have as much traffic jams |
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