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TSkenviro
post Oct 2 2014, 04:03 PM, updated 12y ago

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I am seriously considering to buy either Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 (if the latter can be gotten for under RM150K) but I am concerned about the high fuel consumption (FC). I never thought that there was a problem with FC for Mazda cars since Mazda have been promoting their Skyactiv technology in which one of the plus points is the good fuel economy of their cars with this particular technology.

It only occurred to me that Mazda cars could have this high FC problem when I visited the Mazda 3 Facebook page and saw a comment from this person, Ed War, that his new Mazda 3 was having a high FC problem. The FC claim by Mazda themselves for the Mazda 3 is 5.7L/100 KM but Ed War was only able to get around 11.4L/100 KM. Not only is that a significantly higher FC but that's about twice the claimed FC by Mazda. That is certainly a significant cause of concern for prospective Mazda 3 buyers. I mean, if the FC figure was about 2L/100 KM or even 3L/100 KM higher, then it's acceptable but for it to be twice the claimed FC, that's not acceptable at all. Anyway, if you want to read the comments by Ed War about his Mazda 3, you can visit:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...35147626&type=1

Another link is here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...35147626&type=1

Being more interested in Mazda 6, I took a test drive on Sunday at the Mazda showroom along Old Klang Road. I don't what the showroom did to the Mazda 6, but I saw the average FC was 20.7L/100 KM after the test drive (it was just above 22L/100 KM before the test drive). This led to to have concern that not only is Mazda 3 having high FC problem but Mazda 6 has such high FC problem too. I attach a photo I took of the reading for you to see.

I have two questions:

1. What is the FC for your Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 if you are driving a 2013 or 2014 model?

2. Is it possible to set the average FC meter so that you can see the average fuel consumption for just one trip (could be 5 KM or 10 KM)? If so, how do you set it? I had asked the salesperson but he is not aware that it can be set for just one trip.

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post Oct 2 2014, 04:09 PM

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I believe if you drive a 2.0L car in traffic jam, definitely you do not expect it to save fuel. Especially jam like yesterday where people queue up to pump petrol till making the traffic halt to a standstill.

I drive a 1.8L C segment car too. If jam till cannot move , fc meter will drop to 7KM/L . Especially when I trying very hard to keep up with the car in front to reduce gap to minimum to avoid ppl from cutting queue.

The mazda 6 is using 19 inch rim. So you do not expect to save fuel too. 20.7L/100 KM I believe is due to customer full throttle with short distance to test the power of the car.

If want fuel saving , of coz you go get a Prius or an Axia, Mirage , Attrage .

~my 2 cents~
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post Oct 2 2014, 04:12 PM

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If you at stop & go test drive route, and that reading is 'instantaneous consumption' it should be normal. But if it is average, probably try to reset that fc meter and test drive again.

If the car is not moving and idling, by right it should show infinity L/100km.


But then again, that high compression ratio of SkyActiv engine coupled with our RON95 quality, it should be called SkyPasiv.


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post Oct 2 2014, 04:20 PM

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While I'm not an owner, you should bear in mind while the car's FC rated according to the results gathered from the more stringent and real world JC08 driving cycle, it is still just data collected over a very short period of time and may not reflect actual conditions relating to our weather, passenger loads, idling and other factors.

FC is largely determined by the traffic of the day, your average speed and of course your right foot.
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post Oct 2 2014, 04:27 PM

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Getting 11L/100km in city driving (with jams) is a great figure for a D Segment car. Accord/Camry/Teana is nowhere near that with their ancient VVT engine. No car is going to get less than 10L/100km in city crawling traffic, except for hybrid powertrains.
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post Oct 2 2014, 04:28 PM

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If u really concerned about FC might as well get a Axia.

Sorry man, i just being blunt.
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post Oct 2 2014, 04:30 PM

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buy 150k car but concern with fuel consumption? seriously?
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post Oct 2 2014, 04:38 PM

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When my friend bought mazda 6..he told me it's fuel saving..5.7L/100km...i was like..yeah rite. i'm not saying it's a bluff..but to trust the salesman to that exact.. sweat.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Oct 2 2014, 04:27 PM)
Getting 11L/100km in city driving (with jams) is a great figure for a D Segment car. Accord/Camry/Teana is nowhere near that with their ancient VVT engine. No car is going to get less than 10L/100km in city crawling traffic, except for hybrid powertrains.
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any make c/d segment usually will get that range of figure in real city drive
sometime i cannot brain how come some can really brag about their fc




QUOTE(theanswer @ Oct 2 2014, 04:38 PM)
When my friend bought mazda 6..he told me it's fuel saving..5.7L/100km...i was like..yeah rite. i'm not saying it's a bluff..but to trust the salesman to that exact.. sweat.gif
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can be achieved but only on very smooth traffic/highway
maybe he drive from kl to jb everyday laugh.gif




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post Oct 2 2014, 05:09 PM

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according the paultan test, Mazda 6 is d best fuel saver car compare to Camry and Accord.

however, ppl buyer Mazda 6 becoz of its handling, fuel saving jus a bonus.

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post Oct 2 2014, 05:17 PM

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i think that FC should be normal for driving a >c segments in city traffic. that >20l/100km might result from too much idling i mean it's a test drive car so it could for most of the time, its engine just being idle while the sa explained the features etc FC really depends on the traffics, routes and the way we drive.

for my forte 1.6 CVT
> full 100% city drive
- heavy traffic, stop and go, bumper to bumper crawling results 9.0-12.0l/100km
- moderate traffic results 7.5-9.0l/100km

> highway
- >3.5k rpm (>140km/h) results >8.5/100km
- mixed 2.0k>rpm<3.0k (<130km/h) results 6.5-8.00l/100km
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post Oct 2 2014, 05:17 PM

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Those who buy cars and expect FC as claimed by the manufacturer, will likely have their hearts broken.
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post Oct 2 2014, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Oct 2 2014, 05:17 PM)
Those who buy cars and expect FC as claimed by the manufacturer, will likely have their hearts broken.
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Luckily gua mia proton.. Biasa la
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post Oct 2 2014, 05:54 PM

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malaysian wan big big car, but fc like viva
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post Oct 2 2014, 06:16 PM

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Ts simply dont understand how fc works...there's no car problem here...only user problem.

11.xl/100km also kecoh.....see my one lar this morning stuck in crazy jam.

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No kecoh also.
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post Oct 2 2014, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Oct 2 2014, 04:12 PM)
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But then again, that high compression ratio of SkyActiv engine coupled with our RON95 quality, it should be called SkyPasiv.
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Actually GDi engine (like this Skyactive) is designed to take advantage of higher compression (hence better performance and FC) with the same RON.
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post Oct 2 2014, 06:23 PM

Why my warn is 0%? i miss my high warn
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Oct 2 2014, 04:28 PM)
If u really concerned about FC might as well get a Axia.

Sorry man, i just being blunt.
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why can't he wan to own a nicer car and still be concerned about FC?

if you wanna be smart, go kopitiam
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post Oct 2 2014, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Oct 2 2014, 06:23 PM)
why can't he wan to own a nicer car and still be concerned about FC?

if you wanna be smart, go kopitiam
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a better car yes, but a bigger car for sure will consume more petrol, common sense right? u don't expect a D segment size and weight car and FC same like A segment car, no?
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post Oct 2 2014, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Oct 2 2014, 06:26 PM)
a better car yes, but a bigger car for sure will consume more petrol, common sense right? u don't expect a D segment size and weight car and FC same like A segment car, no?
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Apa lu tau? Ppl ask u go kopitiam ah!
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post Oct 2 2014, 06:43 PM

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I always laugh when I read this kind of post! Lol!

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