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ar188
post Sep 25 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 25 2014, 06:37 PM)
Where got? Overseas depreciation is high too... especially in the first year or two. I'd never buy a brand new car... even if it is 2 weeks old and was moved 5 km the price already dropped like crazy...

My Renault Nissan SC is good, don't know about others, but I've heard good things.
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go n see the UK classifieds la.. or even japan export car companies.. many exporting used 1-2year old models. what u toking
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 25 2014, 06:38 PM)
go n see the UK classifieds la.. or even japan export car companies.. many exporting used 1-2year old models. what u toking
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Those cars tend to have high mileage, IIRC. i.e. company cars that get used so much that after 1-2 years they want to dispose of them cause they are going to give problems. And mileage counts a lot in Europe... not age. A 5 year old low mileage car of the same model and original price tag may be worth as much as one that is 1 year old, but with high mileage. Another reason why there are so many 1-3 year old cars is that Leasing is quite popular in Europe. You pay a certain amount, maybe 5000 Euro on a car that's worth 20000 Euro, and then pay monthly rates, which amount to another 5000. After, say, 3 years, you either pay the final rate of over 10000 (which is what is expected the car is still worth by then. The mileage you are allowed to do is limited and agreed upon in the contract), or you return the car to the dealer/manufacturer, who will sell it. Ownership of the car only transfers to the person once he has paid the final rate, until then it's not his.

My family bought a one year old car for around 8000 Euro that was around 14000 when new... admittedly a (repaired) parking accident has also lowered the value, but there you go. If that's not a price drop I don't know what is.

Once the car has changed to second hand status (even if it was registered by the dealership only, and was never moved a km) the price drops significantly.

For luxury cars in Germany after 3 years you can expect the value to be 45% of what it used to cost.
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post Sep 25 2014, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 25 2014, 08:13 PM)
Those cars tend to have high mileage, IIRC. i.e. company cars that get used so much that after 1-2 years they want to dispose of them cause they are going to give problems. And mileage counts a lot in Europe... not age. A 5 year old low mileage car of the same model and original price tag may be worth as much as one that is 1 year old, but with high mileage. Another reason why there are so many 1-3 year old cars is that Leasing is quite popular in Europe. You pay a certain amount, maybe 5000 Euro on a car that's worth 20000 Euro, and then pay monthly rates, which amount to another 5000. After, say, 3 years, you either pay the final rate of over 10000 (which is what is expected the car is still worth by then. The mileage you are allowed to do is limited and agreed upon in the contract), or you return the car to the dealer/manufacturer, who will sell it. Ownership of the car only transfers to the person once he has paid the final rate, until then it's not his.

My family bought a one year old car for around 8000 Euro that was around 14000 when new... admittedly a (repaired) parking accident has also lowered the value, but there you go. If that's not a price drop I don't know what is.

Once the car has changed to second hand status (even if it was registered by the dealership only, and was never moved a km) the price drops significantly.

For luxury cars in Germany after 3 years you can expect the value to be 45% of what it used to cost.
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pls la.. u are not the only one who was in uk/europe.. there are many 1year old cars with full service history ready for export..
yes it doesnt mean owner doesnt lose its value after 1year compared to original price.. but there is plenty good condition ones for sale even those approved premium used car by branded companies.
as for japan, there is certification or grading for used car export, to confirm to condition is up to spec.. 1-2years old cars are plenty in very good condition too.. again doesnt mean there is no sells 1-2year old cars unless they are high milage items

added some pix examples of japan exporting grade 1 used vehicles nearly brand new 2014 model or low 20k milage ones..
milage 3k+..
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23k milage fuga
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post Sep 25 2014, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(8lackheaven @ Sep 25 2014, 02:38 PM)
no la.. but a car enthusiast would know rs4-rs6 are rare cars.. moreover for cars that has an engine equivalent to a gallardo but at a cheaper price should be reasonable for some car enthusiasts perhaps hehe

but Malaysian market seem to be not liking this types of car
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years back...volvo..audi..etc has some good car and quite a price when newly bought..new recond...
their price goes down fast when they're on a secondhand value..drop so much in a blink...

it is not happening to car like honda toyota etc...

this is 1996 honda
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Civic+EK+B18C+Ty...M+-30010722.htm

this is 1996 audi
http://www.mudah.my/Audi+A6+A+Original+Pai...el-29958150.htm

malaysian car trending...when its pretty with that futuristic look...price gonna be hell...
put aside other features....looks more important than safety...


this is 2006 volvo
http://www.mudah.my/Volvo+S40+2+4+A+New+Fa...ed-29097305.htm

this is 2006 honda
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Civic+2+0+A+FD2+...ER-29918917.htm

the same trend that responsible to mould the after sales service such workshop, warranty etc...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 25 2014, 08:20 PM)
pls la.. u are not the only one who was in uk/europe.. there are many 1year old cars with full service history ready for export..
yes it doesnt mean owner doesnt lose its value after 1year compared to original price.. but there is plenty good condition ones for sale even those approved premium used car by branded companies.
as for japan, there is certification or grading for used car export, to confirm to condition is up to spec.. 1-2years old cars are plenty in very good condition too.. again doesnt mean there is no sells 1-2year old cars unless they are high milage items

added some pix examples of japan exporting grade 1 used vehicles nearly brand new 2014 model or low 20k milage ones..
milage 3k+.. 
user posted image
user posted image

23k milage fuga
user posted image
user posted image

etc etc
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You haven't read the rest of my posting, have you? It can also be cars from leasing contracts, though they tend to run longer than 1 year... then mileage won't be so high.

All I wanted to say was that in the first year there is the biggest depreciation. After that it slows down. First year you may lose 40% of the value, second year 20%, and from then on 5% per year. That sort of thing, though the numbers are nowhere near the real ones probably.

Btw., who says no one dialed back the mileage on those cars? That's trivial to do, with the right equipment.
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post Sep 26 2014, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 26 2014, 08:20 AM)
You haven't read the rest of my posting, have you? It can also be cars from leasing contracts, though they tend to run longer than 1 year... then mileage won't be so high.

All I wanted to say was that in the first year there is the biggest depreciation. After that it slows down. First year you may lose 40% of the value, second year 20%, and from then on 5% per year. That sort of thing, though the numbers are nowhere near the real ones probably.

Btw., who says no one dialed back the mileage on those cars? That's trivial to do, with the right equipment.

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dont be stupid la.. there is some official grading on export cars in japan.. not every body doing business wants to be some conman.. or perhaps maybe you think that way..


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 26 2014, 09:30 AM)
dont be stupid la.. there is some official grading on export cars in japan.. not every body doing business wants to be some conman.. or perhaps maybe you think that way..
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Not every one, but more than enough people I guess. In any case, maybe those cars are really having such a low mileage, but since mileage is important when selling a car, any car that does have a high mileage should be dialed back, because it makes a big enough difference. I'd be especially careful with cars meant for export, as export makes it harder to check the background of the car.
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QUOTE(ashyxt @ Sep 25 2014, 12:57 AM)
new RM243K, launched 2 years back

now... <RM180K is't?... even for local ones?
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u say leh? Rm243K with that kind of Spec, somemore N/A. Only hardcore 86 fans will buy. I rather go for subaruVer10[hatchback] or Renault
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post Sep 26 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Sep 26 2014, 09:33 PM)
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 26 2014, 09:38 PM)
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dunno. too many cars out there :[
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post Sep 26 2014, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Sep 26 2014, 09:41 PM)
dunno. too many cars out there :[
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2 doors type?
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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Sep 26 2014, 09:41 PM)
dunno. too many cars out there :[
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 26 2014, 09:47 PM)
2 doors type?
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QUOTE(Marcus95 @ Sep 26 2014, 09:50 PM)
i think kancil is the best for you
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