Salaam brothers,

does anyone know why suddenly all the pengharaman tariqat issue suddenly come back? personally i have joined some of their session with the qasidah and all that but still confused on the pengharaman apart from their excessive obsession with their leader (cium kaki tuan guru and all that). should it be okay if I join the qasidah as an act of group zikir?

also bro seiferalmercy count me if if there is such session, berminat nak join jugak but if wanna do santai2 lagi best kot hehe

Aku memang menjauhkan diri dari grup-grup yang pelik2 ni

Cukuplah bagiku Quran dan Sunnah Rasullulah

Prektis saja tu. Later will bomb the real enemy.

There's only 1 SS division made up of muslims while millions on Nazis made up of godfearing catholic and protestant germans and scandinavians.

Your point ?

IS is US problem. Let's them settle. This is history thread, not current issue thread. IS most probably exist because of Yahudi mudah lupa too.

What does muslim nations helping jews at their time of trouble got anything to do with arab nations went to fight and lost war against israel state ?

if not mistaken puasa nabi daud dia selang seli, eg: arini puasa esok nya tak. betul ke?

There ia reason why people study laws nowdays and not based on what in Quran/Sunnah told us.

You can say that true judge is Allah. But how do you know that its true? Based on what said in Quran/Sunnah only with no evident that its really happened. Besides Quran/Sunnah, there is no other eveident for the said punishment. Heck, there is not even prove that afterlife is real.

Im sure it working fine, before that is. Thats why i asked about now, in this modern era. Its just not reliable anymore. We need to constant improving and Quran/Sunnah is holding the muslim back. Which is why the glorious islamic civilization in the past come to an end. Just look at how Islamic countries in the world nowdays.

Im sorry but I cant agree with the claim of great revelation called the Quran. I studied it and its definately is not. So much flaw in it.

Im sorry for offending people in here. I was a muslim, technically still is if based on IC. I studied many different translation of Quran and my ustaz regarding it. And when its regarding an offensive translation of Quran, he keep saying im under influence of syaitan and should pray more and not answering the questions.

Not only 1 ustaz mind you, almost all of them are like that. And think about this, if Quran is really for all human and suitable for all time, why is there so many different translation of it. It should be easy to understand for all people. No need to having to refer to a certain scholar which no one have give authority/represent Islam.

Im just gonna tell 1 of many other things that I found the flaw is. If you have time, please read more regarding the prophet and sexual slavery.

What do you call muslims who tells developer to get rid of cross-like structures of houses?

I googled for the Wardina comments against the crucifix issue but found nothing. Mind posting it and sharing?

Anyway, what I am trying to say is if muslims want people to perceive islam as a religion of peace, then they should fight against muslims to portray islam as religion of intolerance and violence, just as much as they fight against anti-islamists (who may very well have legitimate claims on the flaws of islam)

Sooooo
Anyone care to share where they go to buy Islamic books?

Honestly, I am not a big fan of Zakir Naik, due to different beliefs. But from the lense of traditional Islam, what he did here is no wrong.

Indeed, the most important thing in Islam is to believe in God: There is no god but God, Muhammad is the messenger of God. Other prohibition in Islam, such as pork or alcohol is much smaller than syirk. So they should NEVER be in the way of someone who wants to embrace Islam.

p.s: I was shocked when zakir said it's okay to eat dolphin though.. lol.. In literal Islamic tradition, maybe thats correct. But as a rationalist Muslim, of course I don't agree with that simply.

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about my belief that Muhammad was not illiterate, (for xein & s2peMocls too)
That's why I said we must know the history to understand the ayat. We should learn the history of pre-Islamic Arabia (tanah Arab sebelum Muhammad bawa Islam).

There's a lot of things Muslims today don't know about pre-Islamic Arabia. We call it "zaman jahiliyyah", and we imagine them having no religion, maksiat sana sini, kekejaman sana sini, no rule whatsoever, etc. This is of course wrong.

Anyway, to cut the story short, during that time, one of the people having prominent role in (pagan) religion are poets. These poets (arabic: kuhhan) supposedly have strong spiritual connections, and can recite divine poems. Muhammad did not believe those kuhhan, he believed they are fake (ala raja bomoh but minus the funny rituals).

So when Gabriel came to Muhammad in Hira', he asked Muhammad to "recite", not "read". [Note, they both "Iqra" in Arabic, and "baca" in Malay, so its understandable that people can confuse them.] When Gabriel said "recite!", he was talking about doing what kuhhans do. Muhammad, who do not like the kuhhan, of course don't know & didn't like reciting poems, so Gabriel taught him to (remember, the ayat in the Quran are poetic, rythmic, beautiful language which normal arabs/humans cannot produce), and so the story goes.....
This is one of the oldest and most popular debates, what Iqra means, was Muhammad illiterate, etc. I know a lot of people believe Muhammad was. I don't. Muhammad was a great man in society, even before he become a prophet, there is a reason he was called Al-Amin. Such a great man cannot be illiterate. We need to know the history, what happen then, connect the dots, then we can understand better. Like when I talk about zaman jahiliyyah, a lot of Muslims nowadays dont know what it really is, ironically being ignorant about it.
Damn, read more, people.. that's a long post I typed.. I should become a writer

If live n work in Selangor can we pay zakat to PPZ or must be LZS?

Really? Coz i saw LZS gt fatwa tat say must pay to LZS if eork in selangor

nk clarify je.. sbab klu mcm PPZ diorang ckp blum kahwin xboleh ade potongan.. gross income per year x 2.5%..
i jenis kuat pelupa, so klu ade system mcm LZS atau PPZ then will be great help to tracking my payment..

wow tak tahu pula wujud thread ni dekat lyn. aku google2 terjumpa pulak thread ni.

btw aku ade 1 soalan. kolik aku tengah duk bertekak tentang puasa ganti dan solat ganti.

A cakap kalau dulu jahil dan sekarang taubat (sudah solat taubat), kalau puase/solat nya dulu tak terkira di tinggalkan, boleh bayar 1 jumlah yang di tetapkan oleh pejabat agama

B cakap tak boleh suka2 bayar. kena betul2 kira berapa yg tertinggal dan baru bayar jumlah yg betul.

mana 1 betul ni?aku ada google jugak dan jawapan semua kena bayar. tp tak di nyatakan kalau yg org bertaubat dan tak terkira jumlah puasa/solat di tinggal kan, berapa kena bayar.

ada yang boleh bg pencerahan?

Thx. aku malas nak semak sebab tengah kerja. kolik je memekak bertekak pasal benda ni. aku nk cari jawapan lepas tu tepek dekat dahi dieorang

btw bab tinggal puasa, aku ade terbaca kalau sengaja atau tak, kena ganti. kalau sudah lama, kena bayar dan still kena ganti. tapi yang aku tak tahu kalau lost count, nk kira macam mana

along read but from the words of Sheikh Uthaymeen himself :

before answering salat is a great and serious matter
"and nothing neglected of the good actions would constitute disbelief except than solat"
as was reported by Abdullah ibn shaqeeq from the companion of the Mesengger of Allah
"that they would not consider the abandonement of the solat"

so its vehemently clear for a believer to that he fears Allah and the he guards the solat as being ordered by his Lord :

"Guard the solat and the middle (asar) and stand before Allah obediently" 2:238

and allah praised who guard their solat and he made the solat as a cause for them to inherit
the Firdaus ( highest part of paradise)
and solat is the light of the heart and in the face & in the grave .
A Light by which ignorance and evil are banished from one`s selves
& solat is the connection between men and his creator , he stands before him calling him , exalting him

it is firmly established from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger said :
"Allah said i have divided the solat between myself and my slave into two
so when a slave says "All praise and thanks be to Allah"
Allah says : My servant have praised me
and when he says " the  most mercifull and mercy giving"
Allah says : my servant has extolled me
and when he says : "king of the day of judgement"
Allah says : my slave has venerated me
and when he says " you alone we worship and you alone we ask for help"
Allah says : this is between me and my servant
and when he says L "guide us to the straight path
Allah says:  This is for my servant and for my servant is what he asked"

so its befitting to a believer not to waste this great opportunity , to waste this Munajat (conversation) to Allah the Glorified and high because of play and pastime.
And undoubtedly anyone who knows about this Solat and its worth and what it contains of rewards
from Allah the exalted , then he would never neglect his Solat !!

and thus the abandonment of one`s solat according to the correct opinion is Kufr or disbelieve that expels one from islam. for it is not possible for a person who has any faith in his heart who knows the important of solat

as from the kitab(Quran) then Allah said about the idolator :
"But if they repent , establish the Solat and give the zakat , then they are your brothers in religion" 9:11

so Allah made it a condition for one to belong to the religion that he repent from shirk, established the Solat and gives the zakah.
so if a condition is left then the desired goal will not be attained.
and it is not possible to negate the brotherhood of Islam and Faith unless you negate faith completely

and in the Sahih Hadith the Messenger said : "between a man and disbelief and shirk is the abadonment of solat"
and the compilers of Sunan have narrated that he said : "the difference between us and them(disbelievers) is the solat"

and the sound reasoning also necessitates this for it is not possible for a person who has any faith in his heart who know the important of solat and its immense benefit to himself and the severe threat against the one who leaves it to then abandon it ever?

and from this we can say that this person who left the solat and knows of its obligation upon a believer
its a kufr *disbeliever and the disbeliever is not required to make up anything of the action

as Allah say "Say to the disbelievers if they cease from their evil they will be forgiven their past" 8:38

and if we were to assume he is not a disbeliever due to ignorance or that the abandonment of solat is not disbelief which is the opinion of many scholars , then still he is not to make up for the missed solat according to the most correct opinion. and if he make "qada" of them it would not be accepted

Because Allah obligated the solat prayers at specific time in our lives
so Allah say  "indeed the Solat are due for the believers at a Fixed time" 4:103

so if he delayed them from these specific times without an excuse ,
then he has performed them in a manner that was in contrast to that prescribed so it is rejected!!

as Rasullullah said  "whoever performs an act in contradiction to our affair(the sunnah) then it is rejected!!"

and so we realise that the correct opinion is that the believer who left any prayers does not make qada of the missed solat but he should rectify his state from now on as well as increase in seeking forgiveness and performing voluntary prayer (nafill,tahajjud,Duha etc)

for the voluntary acts complete the obligatory ones on the day of judgement and we hope from Allah his complete forgiveness and mercy