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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0

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post Sep 28 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Sep 28 2014, 01:37 PM)
If BR don't spend and we're still in such position, he will still face slaughters from the fans for not strengthening. Like it or not, it's the results that matters nowadays.

P.S. We're awful at defending set-pieces. shakehead.gif
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No lar, I mean if BR doesn't have any fund to actually spend big to strengthen the squad, then we can't really blame him for current standings. But currently he spent 100 million, yet can't deliver any convincing performance. That's what really worry the fans.

We are bad at attacking with set-pieces too, mainly corners, yesterday we get so many corners, but all poorly delivered. shakehead.gif
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post Sep 28 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Sep 28 2014, 02:35 PM)
Rodgers is still in for me. Too premature at this stage to start talks about replacing him. His 3 yrs is not up yet so we will see how he fare this season.

This doesn't mean he has won my vote of confidence to turn things around. Lots of fans were sold by his tiki taka manifesto which evaporated quickly without a word. His signings over the  years reflects the vision he has..only that he was completely clueless on how to use them after he signed them..the dud list is piling up...but It's unfair to boot him without giving him time ( in which he is already in his 3rd year now) to solve the conundrum which the team is facing now. He has all the quality players at his disposal, strong support from FSG, enough depth n a nicely laid green pitch without potholes n mushrooms.

BR is facing the real test this season n his survival will largely depends on our CL performance n league standings come May 2015.
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My fault there, I think I goes over the board.

Yea, sacking a manager in the middle of the season is no-brainer. Let's just wait until the seasons end. But like you said, this will be hell of a long season.
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post Sep 29 2014, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(champu @ Sep 29 2014, 07:50 PM)
remember Chelsea and Manc City are yet to slip up, Southampton's thin squad will catch up with them eventually (they've been lucky with injury so far)

The jury is out for BR and his newly assembled squad, however let's put things into perspective... When Hodgson and Dalglish was managing we we'rent any better than the current situation, but BR has so far managed to steady the ship around and actually has faith in playing our lads from the academy..
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I will not include King Dalglish into the comparison, he did won us CC and almost win FA cup(final) in his 1 & a half season, yea its a mickey mouse cup, but its still an achievement, and Liverpool doesn't even give King time, this is BR 3rd year btw.

Never happy and agree with the sacking of King, in case you forget, its him who promote Sterling, Ibe, & Suso into the 1st team.

in b4 King also spent 100 million, yea no doubt both King and BR sucks at transfer.
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post Sep 30 2014, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Sep 29 2014, 11:39 PM)
Nowadays many good contributors left Lyn Kop Talk...what's left are the same negative creep, doom merchant and hate instigator..and what do they talk about, some samples:

1) BR is clueless - Rafa rules (no disrespect, but Napoli is midtable now), looking at our run toward last season, I am glad we have a dip in the early season and pick up towards Dec...having said this, even Klopp, Martinez, Lvg, PSG and Barca are not having good form at the moment...ahhh of course...

2) Moaninho did many great things, which i am sure he is top top manager but with all due respect - he finished 3rd last season, below us that is

3) We spend so so amount, but play like crap....enough of players need to gel excuses - well, Jovetic, Willian and Salah didnt gel immediately under special one dont they....

4) 100 million in question - the last i know, we spent less than 30 million before our splash this season, which to me is a bit overdue for a club our size and repute

5) Balotelli is no suarez ....but he hold up play and forces the keeper to work in every match he played, which to me is all i can ask for in his first season, maybe my expectation is low..but i'd rather have Balo in my teamsheet than a certain Soldado

Expect SSDD in Lyn thread.....aint gonna get any better..
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Just because we, ok, I being realistic, and just because the negative/realistic thing I comment doesn't please you, then being label as negative creep, doom merchant, and hate instigator?

What you say is right there, and what I say is right too, just the way we going is positive and negative, so why the hate? Everyone have their own opinion.

Just saying, what you say there is right, but why can't you compare it with the successful example? For eg, Rafa is going downhill now, but why can't we compare to his glory days, and try to improve?
Another eg would be Moaninho, why we compare to his previous season? Why can't we compare to his current form, and his last time glory with Chelsea being unbeaten at home?

Catch what I mean there? No offence and no hate there, simply the difference between us, the negative/realist and positive.
Let us enjoy healthy banter, and no name calling. So peace yoh. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Sep 30 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 30 2014, 09:35 AM)
i would start judging BR in January.

Think thats fair enough?

5 months to integrate the new players in and observe how he deals with this new lot
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So I am the most harsh huh, I said I'll judge the next 5 league games before Everton. And I will lose hope if he lost 3 of the 5 games.
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post Sep 30 2014, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(cheez @ Sep 30 2014, 02:46 PM)
Lol... suddenly reading some many "debates".
I wonder does it have anything to do with the time you start to support Liverpool. The reason being those older gen of Liv supporters will have a far better level of tolerance towards poor performance/run vs those new gen Liv supporters that only started to support Liv since the last 2 seasons.

Well, I could be wrong but sometimes just put urself outside of the situation, it's just a game and it's few 10k km away from us. Is it really worthwhile to argue like this? Call me a plastic/no passion fan or whatsoever, I just don't think it's necessary to argue, just enjoy the beauty of the game.

peace out.
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Heh bro, of course I know its just a game, its just a healthy debates/banter, so it won't really affect me in real life.

I don't deny I am a gen y/new fans, started to support Liverpool in 2009 or 2010, can't remember clearly. Before that I only support national level, Germany. So yea, had been complaining since then, but I still love Liverpool. laugh.gif
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post Oct 1 2014, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(leftist @ Oct 1 2014, 03:18 PM)
its not the end of the world if we draw..of course BR will aim for a win..sooner we qualify into 2nd round, easier for him to rotate/rest players..i'm expecting a win but not too disappointed if its a draw..will be disappointed if we lost
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Will deeply disappointed if the performance shit like vs WestHam. Will not mad if they play good football but lose by a small margin. Win will be great, draw is acceptable, but next time must win at Anfield.
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post Oct 1 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(reehdus @ Oct 1 2014, 04:48 PM)
I sorta agree with you there...the general mentality surrounding us right now is gloom and doom. A win, a healthy one too, away in the CL will help to lift some of that. Even better if it comes with good performances from underfperfoming players like Mario and Marko.

A draw or loss, coupled with bad individual performances will not do morale good.
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IMO, This, apart from BR's tactic, this is terribly wrong with Liverpool as of right now. I can't seem to find the urgency to win in most of the player now, compared to last season when Suarez & Gerrard will shout all the time, and the disappointment & tears when they lost.
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post Oct 2 2014, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(manx @ Oct 2 2014, 07:22 AM)
The worried part is... how on earth that we transformed from goal machine to clueless team with just 1 marquee player gone tongue.gif

Something is terribly not right at the moment. Any backroom rumour that you heard recently?
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So it does make me wonder that last season its BR that make Suarez looks good, or the other way around. Up until now, I am thinking of the latter. Sigh... doh.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 08:31 AM

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I didn't even wake up to watch this match, but looking at all the critics on Sterling, why the heck BR didn't sub him off? And he still have 1 more substitution didn't use? rclxub.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 2 2014, 08:30 AM)
Are they physically fit and tactically ready to approach the game?
We all know what Sterling can bring to the team and his performance for Liverpool so far. And your proposed solution to this defeat ? Bring in another new player to replace him. Yup..Reina made mistakes, we brought in Mignolet. Agger made mistakes, we brought in Sakho, and when Sakho is not perfoming and we took Lovren in and idunnowho... the cycle continues until the cow comes home.
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Omg, this is so true, which I never like and trust in BR transfer.

Didn't really noticed it until you mentioned now,

Mignolet is a downgrade of Reina.
Sakho is a downgrade of Agger.
Lovren is the same as Sakho.
Markovic is a downgrade of Sterling.
Balultelli is a downgrade of Suarez.

Talk about replacement. hmm.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Oct 2 2014, 09:00 AM)
the biggest problem is we dont have a leader on the pitch
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Ain't Gerrard on the pitch? He is the leader and the vocal, but he can't perform consistently. So yea, I don't think its the pitch leader problem atm.
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post Oct 2 2014, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 2 2014, 09:27 AM)
It's true we need a leader on the pitch. Suarez was the true leader on the pitch last season but not Gerrard. Although he was not wearing the armband, the former was the one who was constantly driving the team with his will to win n his goals galvanized the entire team. Gerrard...the legend he is...has look like he is unable to carry the team like he used to be.
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You got your point there, Suarez was the "true leader" back then. Currently Gerrard is still a good leader, maybe he just lost the urgency to win, and his leader charismatic had faded away. sad.gif
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post Oct 2 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 2 2014, 09:36 AM)
Hail BR haters.. Lazy to reply, I'm not a die BR fan.. As always whenever Liverpool loses they seems to talk a lot more. I'm just a Liverpool fan I defend whatever and whenever bet against them.

Then point Suarez was the savior when Liverpool and manager defended him in me out . Time and time again flirting to leave. Still talking about Suarez?

I can't brain u supporting liv or the player itself?

We should call for owners out! If owner still stick with BR I'm sorry u gotta suck it in. Coz we are stuck with BR smile.gif
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Me too can't brain you are supporting Liverpool or the manager itself?

You too will stuck with Sterling unless BR bring in Messi.

I don't see what is the problem of pointing the bigger part of blame on BR, he is the leader of Liverpool ain't he?

The blame is on BR, but did you see anyone asking him to be axed? What is the logic here? I can't understand all these realist haters, people are just pointing out the fact and analysis, and then you go all mad or troll(I don't know).
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post Oct 2 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 2 2014, 09:53 AM)
Calm down.

Are we really calling for BR's head?

You guys cant be serious.
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No. currently nobody is asking for his head, just pointing the bigger part of blame on him.

But this came out.

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We should call for owners out! If owner still stick with BR I'm sorry u gotta suck it in. Coz we are stuck with BR smile.gif

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post Oct 2 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 2 2014, 10:00 AM)
Mad? I'm not mad.. I was joking with Carloz man, I said Sterling was piss poor last 3 games I didn't say he was poor entirely. But noooo u guys "BR hater" pointing him entirely from day 1 lol.

I told you I am a liverpool fan not manager, I trust in the owners

No player is bigger than the club. Again Suarez a leader eh biting and diving etc.. Of coz u guys always talk about results the team consist of 11 players. It is not entirely about Suarez. I celebrated when Suarez scores and because liverpool win not because he score amazing goal you see?
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Ain't we the same then? I didn't blame BR from day 1, I only critics and blame him when he put on shit performance, when we lose miserably. For eg, game vs Spurs. So yea, I didn't blame him all the time.

Of course nobody is bigger than the club, Suarez is kept on mentioned is because he did bring success to us, that's it.

QUOTE(yeelong @ Oct 2 2014, 10:02 AM)
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Are you posting in a wrong place?
I don't see anyone asking for BR's head.
I don't see anyone chocking each other throat, its obviously healthy banter.

Oh and regarding name calling, I can only see one forumer did that in this whole new thread.

Er...i think you too should relax, cause nobody is taking anything seriously that will affect rl
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post Oct 2 2014, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 2 2014, 10:37 AM)
He was not the only person that helped get us back to CL. The entire team, staff, manager, coaches, etc etc
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My fault for using success there, its a big word to use there. Ermm..he brought us back to CL.

And yea I do agree he is not the only person that helped us get back into CL, but IMO I would say he should at least get half of the credits.

Btw, don't forget about all those penalty he received, his assists, chances created, his involvement in most goals, which hardly seen in facts on paper.

QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 2 2014, 10:58 AM)
Yeah probably right that bigger credit goes to Suarez himself. But I would like to think that maybe a tiny bit of credit should go to Rodgers as well.
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Yea, BR is behind all that, but I will give Suarez more credit.

QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 2 2014, 11:08 AM)
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Yea, I don't deny I am one of those frustrated with Reina drop of form, and constant mistake. But I don't want to see him out just because of a sudden drop of form. Sigh, but now Mignolet only good in stop sudden ball. Other than that, he pretty much sucks at distribution, ball clearance & recycling, aerial, and another major problem I see in him now is his positioning. For eg the goal from Aguero, and goal from Ludo, both still have a chance to save if he positioned himself in the correct place.

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post Oct 2 2014, 02:45 PM

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With the owner philosophy, we will never get Suarez replacement. nuff said.

I am ok-ish with Balultelli, he is that type of player, you can't change a player play style unless he is versatile enough. And don't forget he is not overpriced, currently his performance may not justify his price tag yet, but if he start scoring goals, its acceptable.

On the other hand, Markovic & Lovren play like a 5 - 10 million player, Lallana is playing like a 10-15 million player.
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post Oct 2 2014, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Oct 2 2014, 02:53 PM)
herrera might sideline for 6 weeks?
Heard he clashed with the referee..
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He clashed with Safee Sali right? hmm.gif
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post Oct 3 2014, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 2 2014, 08:47 PM)
Many LFC fans are commenting at this rate (twitter/other sites) we won't be proceeding to CL next stage.

Damn all the hard work last season is just seemed wasted. And we only have few injuries to the squad, not half of the 1st team members

None of us wish to be in Rodgers seat atm. And it may seem there isn't a rabbit to be pulled from the rabbit hat.

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I have 1 friend, a second generation Liverpool fans, I know he is a hardcore fans just like his father, and he's as calm as many forumer here. He is much more positive than most of us here, but after the match vs Basel, I saw him got mad for like the first time.

Normally he will say things like good performance, still can improve, bad luck, opponent had a better game, something like that. After match vs Basel, he said rubbish performance yet again.

Sigh, I really hope BR can buckle up, because fans all over the world is really disappointed with current performance.

p.s I am not asking for his head, just hope this weekend he can turn the tide around.

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