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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0

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AnythingK
post Oct 24 2014, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 24 2014, 05:09 PM)
lolwtf  laugh.gif then it'll depends wat type of club are u at currently. pool?
time will tell on THAT kid. time will tell. dun judge too soon, shall we?  smile.gif
agreed on the brit coaches part tho.
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Any club will do lar, just that if I am young, I would love to win as many trophy as I can.

As for Welbeck, so far he did quite well at Arsenal, he is a natural poacher, always at the right place at the right time. But I still doubt his footwork, but he still young lar, Arsene is well known for nurturing young lad.
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post Oct 24 2014, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 24 2014, 05:18 PM)
fair enuf. like your previous post stated "MCity>Chelsea>Liverpool,Arsenal, MU".
i think you might think twice if RMadrid/Barc-/B.Munich come knocking on your door as well.
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Yea, that was just comparing the English club only, and solely based on the last 2-5 years result.

Yea, no doubt if including other league, the list would be like Barcelona>B.Munich>R.Madrid>M.City>Chelsea. Yea I am hell of a realistic, and I am sure most of the modern footballers is like that. laugh.gif
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post Oct 24 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Oct 24 2014, 05:20 PM)
Lovren
Markovic
Balo
Can
Lambert
Borini
Alberto
Aspas
Nuri Sahin

The flop list keeps going on and on and on.... Infinite floop
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Borini
Joe Allen
Assaidi
Nuri Sahin
Luis Alberto
Iago Aspas
Sakho
Mignolet
Cissokho
Moses
Lambert
Lallana
Can
Markovic
Lovren

This would be the correct list of flop, and I just noticed Can cost us 9.75m. shocking.gif

edit: I am lazy to put up the players BR sold, a bunch of good players going out with low fee. A total failure transfer and business I'd say.

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post Oct 24 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 24 2014, 07:17 PM)
U talk about BR transfer but u fail to include Rafas and Woy transfer. Clearly the BR hate, ure saying last season was fluke? Or u just started supporting Liverpoolfc only is it?
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I am talking about our current manager, BR, of course I only list out his transfer history.

Why the hell do i need to mention about the previous transfer which is not even related to BR? doh.gif doh.gif

We can start another discussion on our previous manager, then I will be very glad to provide the transfer history too. But I dont see the need of it.
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post Oct 25 2014, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 24 2014, 11:09 PM)
1st the name you mentioned as a flop was crazy, you call Joe Allen a flop? Please explain to me how is these player a flop. So i compared with older flops you get what i mean?  doh.gif  doh.gif

1. Allen
2. Sakho
3. Lambert
4. Lallana
5. Can
6. Markovic
7. Lovren
8. Mignolet (maybe but not entirely a failure)

2nd, a team needs bigger squad than 11 players. Sitting on bench or sitting out for a match not doesn't mean he is useless. I dare a team play with only 11 players all competition  doh.gif  doh.gif

3rd, most of the signing are still new. You call them a flop after 6 months? Hell fans even give Aspas a chance b4 he make a leave.  doh.gif  doh.gif

4th, were you here celebrating when Liverpool were second last season & got back to CL? it is like you just forget about yesterday's celebration.. "oh yes Suarez was the man the only man who brought us back to CL bla bla bla"  Let me bring up the stats & fact again.

Under Kenny
2010-2011 4 goals in 13 appearance 
2011-2012 11 goal in 39 appearance 

Whereas under Rodgers:
2012-2013 30 goals in 44 appearance
2013-2014 31 goals 37 appearance 

Credit to farisq again.

5th, i support liverpool as a whole thing not just being nice looking in my eyes. Afterall this is business, FSG already done well enough for liverpool and to keep liverpool up and running every season. It is already generous enough splashing cash on players and not making a big mess. Yea there mistake here and there but it was not the end of the world. Moreover didnt we fought come back from relegation battle?

6th, BR wasnt given much money to spend for the first 6 months. Remember he had to train those kids to come out and fight for thier places? Sterling, Suso, Teixera, Flanagan, Kelly, Wisdom, etc etc.. Give him a break will you?

7th, You need to give the manager/the club a chance to build up reputation, ManU would love to have Ferguson as long as they can but ppl get old and new manager will come, if you ever dont give new manager a chance then are you gonna run the club managerless?

8th, whats the problem with British players? it is like calling Bayern Munich with bunch of overpaid/overrated German players. I dont see a problem with British players or British manager.
Not rage or anything take step back look at the liverpool as whole thing. You would prolly understand abit better.
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LOL seriously? like seriously? you reply wall of text just because I listed out BR transfer history and which I deem as a flop? Like really? laugh.gif

Oh regarding 4th point, I do celebrate, because I never in my life expected we would finish 2nd, oh you mean celebrate here? not so much I guess.

1st point, HELL YEA Allen is a flop, at least for me, he used like how many season to actually become just decently, yea decently only, no where near good.

3rd point, I am so lazy of repeating the same thing regarding this give time infinite loop.

all other point came out of nowhere, I have no idea how d hell you can come out with so many point, when I just list out my list of flop under BR.
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post Oct 25 2014, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 25 2014, 02:04 AM)
sorry i didnt know you didnt like it, i was thinking while i was at it why not put more points in it smile.gif

i never expected Liverpool would win CL again after long years but they did, 2nd time finals..failed but im proud. Have some faith smile.gif

i've said you need a bigger squad, you cant have only 11 best players to play all competition. Allen was ok, no where near as a FLOP. But never explain to me why is he a flop?
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Well, for me hes definitely a flop, like said earlier, he used how many season to actually become decently or like how you said, ok, thats a flop for me.

Btw, of course I have faith in Liverpool, but not so much in BR after the 100million transfer and after so many matches, only performance vs Spurs is promising. But I am not into the idea of replacing a manager in the middle of the season, replace or not, lets just wait until the season end.
In short, I support, love and have faith in Liverpool, not BR, not the owner, nor the player. So if replacing manager will help the situation, so be it, if Arabian oil co. wanted to buy Liverpool, so be it, the same to the player.
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post Oct 25 2014, 11:27 AM

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^That.

Minimum expectation is to qualify CL this season.

Like many of you said, BR doesnt have access to fund in his first season. But now he got the time, which is 3 years, the support, which is everyone standing behind him when his poor standings in his first season, the FUND, >100million, which can easily buy a whole team. So yea, he basically got everything throughout his 3+ years here.

Still anything lower than CL qualification is not acceptable, at least for me.

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post Oct 25 2014, 11:55 PM

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Not so hard to get a point at Anfield after all. yawn.gif

So Soton is the big 4 this season eh...
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post Oct 25 2014, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Oct 25 2014, 11:47 PM)
Lol Mario...

Shoot the fking ball!
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If he take the shoot and it goes wide, you will say pass the fking ball!! right?

scape goat as always... doh.gif
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post Oct 26 2014, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Oct 25 2014, 11:59 PM)
Although balotelli quite lazy, is only me think his run quite good today?
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Nope, anything except win, everything is on him, he is the scape goat after all.
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post Oct 26 2014, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(genjo @ Oct 26 2014, 12:46 AM)
A lot of ppl tend to forget about the wages.
They think just buy no need think about the wages.
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So the combined bunch of overpriced bench warmer/squad player is getting little wage?
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post Oct 26 2014, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 26 2014, 12:25 AM)
You got the money to buy a BMW doesnt mean you can afford to pay the maintenance. Talk about football knowledge..  Hmm kosong

Lemme simplify it ya.. Example

BMW = Marquee
Maintenance = Wage

Still dreaming?
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Can afford the maintenance of 3 overpriced myvi, but not the maintenance of 1 bmw?

Well lets just agree to disagree, I can foresee an endless discussion.
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post Oct 26 2014, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 26 2014, 01:06 AM)
You cannot pay up then bank chase you lor. BMW fail on you then u park the car at home continue to pay maintenance lor..

Oh myvi? Cheap maintain, or loan to someone help you maintain or maybe he forced induction for me when i get it back.

Just a example, chillax
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post Oct 26 2014, 01:37 AM

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Btw the good thing with the match vs Hull, we kept a CLEAN SHEET!!!!! rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 26 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 26 2014, 03:01 PM)
Koeman does have good accomplishment in his resume. Most managers performance are like roller coaster ride anyways except a few A-list. They could be doing great job with limited resources but stumble when given better squad
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Macam talking about Moyes only.. laugh.gif
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post Oct 27 2014, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(sahathai @ Oct 26 2014, 09:54 PM)
Just remember that Balo is a desperate last minute option for BR to sign a 'big' name striker as Suarez replacement. His first n probably second choices targets are all refuse to play for us unless they got a lucrative crazy wages which far beyond our capability.  He was under pressure from board n fans.. When an Italy national team striker with BPL experiences become available at bargain price, he just kind of took the risk. Not trying to defend BR or Balo but just to understand his situation. Even so i still think we waste too much money in transfer not only this season but since the last few years. Too many so-called talented mediocre overprice players were bought but only a few that really worth the money.
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I have no problem with Balotelli, like you said, that was a last min panic buy, and almost all fans including me doesnt fancy the buy, saying Balotelli is a time bomb, its a very big risk and gamble. But what to do, Falcao too exp, cant get Cavani and Benzema, Remy mysterious heart problem. I am still hoping Jan we could get our hand on Benzema > Cavani > Reus. That is my wish. laugh.gif

And yea regarding the transfer of bunch of overpriced mediocre player, mediocre player should only be around 10m, 15m top. In short, BR and King sucks at transfer, only a selected few will come good with us.
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post Oct 27 2014, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 27 2014, 10:12 AM)
Benzema? Dream on

Cavani ? Too expensive n kitty we have is exhausted

Rues? 10-20% he will leave and we don't have the kitty bank (same as above reasons)
TacticĂ lly we need someone in the likes of David villa. (If he was much younger). Doesn't need to be "marquee" in that sense but given the way we play, striker who can poach n find spacers nearer to goal. Not long tries from distance.
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That is my wish mah..don lar shattered my wish just like that. cry.gif

If Sturridge can fit for the whole season, then no need reinforce new striker. laugh.gif

edit: can lar get Cavani and Reus, once we sell Sterling with 70m at Jan, we got the fund liao. thumbup.gif

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post Oct 27 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 27 2014, 10:51 AM)
Sterling can score goals last season, what is happening this season? Why is goals only depended on sturidge ?

to me It goes beyond 'missing' Suarez services
AnythingK, I wish we signed smile.gif but season started. Zero chance of such happening in January. Unless the particular player is sitting n rotting on bench.
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Did you forget that most goals from Sterling last season was tap-in? This season he lack the brilliance and assist from Suarez, Sturridge is injured atm, Coutinho some how lost his magic, so its not a surprise that currently he can't get any tap-in.

And then the same thing with Coutinho, they are having shooting lesson from Suarez, but half way Suarez left liao, so he and Coutinho still finding their shooting boots. laugh.gif
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post Oct 27 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 27 2014, 02:14 PM)
But currently, the book nowhere near black...  sweat.gif

And with the aim to balance the book, you don't spend 20mil (Marko), Lambert (4 mil), Origi (10 mil and loan out), Lovren (20 mil, and nowhere better than Agger) right?

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Owner philosophy mah, buy cheap young talent, nurture it to become established good player. But........Markovic(not so cheap after all)......Lovren(not so young after all)........ laugh.gif
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post Oct 27 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 27 2014, 06:43 PM)
I don't know whats the loaning thing with Origi & couple of others except that the policy buy young (cheap) and hope to make some money selling later. Then again borini (buy) itself was  rclxub.gif

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Buying Aspas was more rclxub.gif That thin dude doesnt even look good in youtube. laugh.gif

The major problem of BR transfer is not the player, but the price, 3/4 of it is overpriced. Lovren will be an ok buy if he does not exceed 10m, the same goes to Markovic, and all other overpriced player. As for nurturing young talent and sell it, BR will never be as successful as Wenger in that aspect.

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