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post Dec 26 2022, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Nov 4 2022, 09:23 AM)
Check this out :- https://mybulliontrade.com/

They are in PJ, sell various sizes gold bar too.
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Beware as they are operating co labs shared office open sharing spaces

Nothing more than just bunch of speculators teaming up 🤦‍♀️
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post Dec 29 2022, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(Kopistall @ Dec 29 2022, 05:15 AM)
Any fortune tellers here can provide the price for 2023 ? Looks like up n down to me.
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Most likely will be around usd 1820 to 1900

Can’t go up much this year unless USD severely weakens
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post Dec 30 2022, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(Kopistall @ Dec 30 2022, 04:54 AM)
Bro. I don't understand. Means per ounce or per kilo you're trying to say. How much is that per gram in ringgit. Thanks.
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Per oz as in USD

Not point looking in RM or gm as it is not traded openly that way 🤦‍♀️

Just use the online converter if you want actual live prices
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post Dec 31 2022, 05:19 AM

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QUOTE(Kopistall @ Dec 31 2022, 04:05 AM)
Okay okay right thanks.
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You just need to check on GLD price then use the converter to price in RM

Anything more than 5% in spread to RM forget about buying it as it is rip off

Iinm gold shop like Poh Kong spread is 10-15% higher and it is even higher during festive season

Btw, try this site for price indicator as it is has all the info you need

https://www.livepriceofgold.com/malaysia-gold-price.html

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post Dec 31 2022, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Kopistall @ Dec 31 2022, 04:36 PM)
Many thanks. Gold is best in times of war & tensions.
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Not really because gold is only for wealth preservation 🤦‍♀️

If you’re buying gold because of war and tensions then you’re wrong as 2022 proven gold hasn’t not even increased

The only thing has increased USD, Oil, Corn and Wheat
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post Dec 31 2022, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 31 2022, 06:45 PM)
Since u said USD increased, GLD is priced in USD and it is slightly positive.(0.78%) for the year. Meaning gold has increased as much as USD.

Not a bad performance considering 2022 is also the year of aggressive nterest rates hikes, which is a negative for gold.

For 2023, if interest rate peaks (or declines) but geopolitical conflict remains or escalates, then I would expect an ever better year for gold.
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Gold increased slightly while USD basket increases by 7% outpacing gold ten times hence gold actually not increasing but stagnant 🤦‍♀️
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post Jan 1 2023, 06:37 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 31 2022, 10:21 PM)
2nd Jan gold was Rm7,802. Today gold is Rm8,166.
I would say that's an increase of 4.66%.
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While RM depreciated 5.39% from 4.17 to 4.40

So in fact Gold actual lost to USD in fact when rate rises 🤦‍♀️
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post Jan 1 2023, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 1 2023, 08:13 AM)
4+% interest Rate rise is recent. WE don't know what gold will do in 2023. Do you?
The 4.67% is from Jan to Dec 2022. DONE.
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Unless you are buying gold in USD and sold it off in RM then it is gain

But if your buying USD and sell it off to RM in cash it outperforms it 🤦‍♀️ by 0.7%

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post Jan 1 2023, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Aventador360 @ Jan 1 2023, 01:38 PM)
Can anyone help to explain to me why Gold is pushing the envelope against many of the major currencies in the world even the AUD (Which is commodity backed) but it is not really rocking against the MYR? Is there a defacto peg or something? Or is it to do with the fact that malaysia is an oil exporter and there may be some link there? Thank you.
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Malaysia RM fundamentals itself causes the money to depreciate and with USD rate rises it is double whammy

Generally gold only rallies on two things weaker USD and global macro uncertainties

So if gold not rallying in Malaysia it means Malaysia current fundamentals is bad 🤦‍♀️
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post Jan 2 2023, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jan 2 2023, 10:57 AM)
There ia no such peg. Its just MYR has performed better in 2022 than the likes of JPY, GBP, EUR vs the USD.  N u r correct, we being a commodity exporter has something to do with it.

Personal outlook is that gold should perform well when the Fed pauses, which is expected to be around the 2Q 2023.
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MYR depreciated by close 6% and it shows it is not better in 2022 🤦‍♀️

While SGD ended year barely unchanged

QUOTE(honsiong @ Jan 2 2023, 12:56 PM)
Buying gold for diversification = good,
buying gold in hope to outperform all other assets = not good

You cant win it all, but you can diversify enough to sleep better.
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That is why gold is good for wealth preservation and it is balancing tool for diversification across asset classes 👏

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post Jan 8 2023, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 8 2023, 03:38 PM)
Without rising bank interest rate, RM will devalue further.
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This is totally sums it up all 🤦‍♀️

Only thing why gold went up in Malaysia because of the BNM weak and indecisive in increasing OPR

They should instead of use the model of MAS SGD policy by jawboning the currency rather than rely of OPR but unfortunately our BNM mindset is still weak on policy and slow to action
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post Jan 25 2023, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Jan 25 2023, 08:13 PM)
Hahaha, most frightening wud be a hockey stick pattern....(once they start launching the hypersonic missiles)  rclxub.gif

As us Seniors have repeated till ad nauseum,....where possible, accumulate some physical gold.
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No need to wait hypersonic as the tanks would be coming soon and spring offensive will be starting to reclaim back territories from the Russians 🤦‍♀️

Expect gold to be trading sideways till Spring or debt default drama whichever comes 1st
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post Jan 26 2023, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(persona93 @ Jan 26 2023, 12:06 PM)
thanks for your advice sir, yeah it's just 10% but can save up to RM3k, which maybe can tambah to the chain so that it'll look prettier cool2.gif
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When it comes to wedding spending a bit on gold jewellery worth it rather than worrying the price

Unless you planning to get married again in the future 😂
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post Feb 9 2023, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(James.L1M @ Feb 9 2023, 05:16 PM)
Gold is predicted to go up in Y2023!
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Not at the current level 🤦‍♀️

Already boom and now wait for it to drop
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post Feb 14 2023, 03:35 AM

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QUOTE(James.L1M @ Feb 13 2023, 05:22 PM)
Any guestimates on how low gold will go for Y2023?
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Bottom was during Oct at 1640 and then went up to 1800 by Nov with a slight bump before Santa Clause rally until 1940 by 1st week of Jan

We are now trading sideways at 1860 atm but resistance downside at 1780

As I trade mostly in GLD anything below 166 it is buy signal for trade on bad news but I doubt it will hit that this year as 170 seems holding strong support with the macro news for the year unless a miracle changes with massive drip in inflation worldwide


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post Feb 14 2023, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(James.L1M @ Feb 14 2023, 11:37 AM)
Good to know!

GLD is an excellent alternative with no overnight fees, etc. Will consider going in if GLD touches 150 based on a weekly chart.

As proven last year, gold as a hedge against inflation was less than stellar last year but I suppose it did an okay job as a store of value. For 2022 cash (i.e. the USD) was indeed king but not sure if we will see something similar for 2023 going forward. Might be worthwhile taking some positions in gold/GLD for the medium term.
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You dream to big for GLD at 150 only time it breaches that was during Covid in March 2020 and since it is barely and holding up at 151 during Oct 🤦‍♀️

Like I said earlier anything below 166 is a buy signal for the upside while you can never time the bottom to 150 unless there is no more war, natural disaster or economic crisis in the world 🤦‍♀️

You buy GLD if you go no where to store your cash while not generating at least 3% pa and while USD on the downtrend
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post Feb 15 2023, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(James.L1M @ Feb 15 2023, 10:32 AM)
Agreed GLD at 150 is rather ambitious and greedy. Will definitely take a black swan event to get there. Shall consider GLD at 166.
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Gold downside now rather low better take middle ground and the upside chances is higher

Difficult for GLD now to break to 190 unless more bad news being thrown in
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post Feb 16 2023, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(James.L1M @ Feb 16 2023, 10:47 AM)
Indeed will be tough for GLD to break 190. Has only happened two weeks in the past decade or so.
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And another leg down tomorrow we back at square one for the year as GLD is only up by less than 1% this year

I expect to hit my target by March 👏 and the USD will start roaring again
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post Mar 18 2023, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Mar 18 2023, 07:29 AM)
Bro, many thanks for reviving this thread, much respects.

Mari, Mari, Unker mau dengar....whats is Sifu n Senior opinions, on current situation.

Are we facing Inflation or Currency Debasement?

Worldwide oil price drop, char koay teow price maintain, loss of jobs,  vs.  precious metal up, stocks up, crypto up, Fed still expect to raise rates?

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Confirm raise 25bps as it is going long period in between stagflation and inflation

QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 18 2023, 08:00 AM)
Lets see if can break last year's USD March high.
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It will break up till 2020 but difficult to go upwards of 2050

QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 18 2023, 08:06 AM)
Yes.
Last March high was $1,998.18

Just a few $ more.

But in MYR, it is at historical high
Expect gold ti be approx MYR9,000 on Monday.

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Expect it to go past 10k with the depreciation of RM 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 18 2023, 08:23 AM)
It breached 2k last year. Intraday high on 8 March 2022 was USD2070

Back in 2020, 8 August, intraday high was USD2075, which is still.the historical record high.

But yeah in MYR, Gold already at historical high.
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Difficult to hit past 2020 as will trade sideways between 1940 to 2020 on macroeconomic data news
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post Mar 20 2023, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 20 2023, 05:06 PM)
Breached USD2k..Tahniah.

Now see if can breach n stay above USD2050!
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And it falls back to 1980 range 🤦‍♀️

Can’t even breach past resistance level at 2015 so it will be holding pattern until Wednesday

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