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Iceman74
post Dec 9 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Dec 9 2020, 03:10 PM)
Shall be Balance <5g. Anyway RM5 is nothing even you hold less than 5g. I just tried to purchase 1g only last week. Lol.....
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Does it fully backed by physical gold deposited like maybank?

Since gold/silver are not insured by PIDM as per BN guideline, any assurance better than none.

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post Jan 24 2021, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(pharaoh5312 @ Jan 24 2021, 05:28 PM)
Hi sorry gold sifu, complete gold noobie here. My friend is introducing me into gold investment and I'm just gonna copy paste the message here

if u have 1k ringgit, u buy 1k gold, if increase 10% u gain 100 only. but what if today u use 1k to buy 10k gold, 9k the bank borrow u , u no need pay installment, just need to put the gold in their bank, and pay interest base on your gold’s net worth
if gold up 10% how much u earn ? 100%

he say this is called gold leverage asset

SO, idk how true is it, sounds really good tho. What's the catch? If can link me places to learn more about it also can, thx so much!

Sorry for being annoyed i really know 0 shit about gold investment.
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Haha... if drop 10%?
You lose the 1k and still need to pay the interest?
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post Jul 22 2021, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Jul 22 2021, 09:13 PM)
Wanna ask a noob question

If I bought gold at rm 265 per gram global market rate

Then myr drop against USD, but global market rate for gold unchanged.

Did I basically increase my networth in myr?
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Yes, provided can cover the difference between buying and selling.
It just like holding USD cash and betting RM drop

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post Aug 20 2021, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Aug 20 2021, 03:18 AM)
physical gold you keep your gold by yourself. no fees to be charge on you. but if you keep it with some company, holding golds with some company. you will be charge on all miscellaneous fees.
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I don't see any charges in my MBB gold accounts.
Are you sure you want to take the risk keeping the physical gold as safekeeping?
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post Sep 30 2022, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(IefGnow @ Sep 30 2022, 10:10 AM)
Hi guys, newbie / noob question if you don’t mind. Thinking of investing in a local banks gold investment account. But I see the buy and sell spread for some banks as high as RM10 per gram. So unless price per gram increases above that spread difference you’ll always be in a loss. Is such bank gold investments still viable today? Thank you all sifus and masters.
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unless you are trader, why would you care for short term outlook spread?

It all depending on your risk appetite.
Keeping cold hard physical gold in your hand(it nice feeling smile.gif ) and take the risk along with it.
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pass all those risk to banks for small amount of spread different.
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post Sep 30 2022, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Sep 30 2022, 11:24 AM)
I'm wondering this time around the gold price doesn't go up when the inflation rate is sky rocketing all over the world.

While I understand US is raising its interest rate, but that doesn't mean that fiat currency value is also appreciating at the same rate as the inflation, right?

So precious metal like Gold price should be going up in time like this but it isn't.  :confused:
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I think there are too many choices available for them to park theirs wealth compared with last time.

It new world order now, we just see what going to play out now
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post Sep 30 2022, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Sep 30 2022, 08:58 PM)
I remember Yen used to be also a safe heaven currency and Yen is also going under.
Bond pun not doing well at current state.
Bitcoin, I'm a bit skeptical and reserve on this since it's digital.

Other than these, can you advice where else to park funds? Properties?
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I have no idea where or which way to go either but 1 things for sure is, must stay liquid plus reserve ready for long rainy days.

If you are sure yr current income will not or least effected no matter how bad the economic downturns or how long will be, you can try buy good assets with full loan. If inflation plays as predicted, which will be higher range. At least in long term those assets will naturally appreciate since our currency value down the drain anyway. Short term you need to weather those uncertainties and negative cash flow.

Depending who you followed, some will tell you don’t put all in 1 basket investment.
Some will tell you concentrated all your resources which investment you familiar with.
This is the time where we know who have the Midas touch or study well the investment they good at and timing it well to grab the chances.

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post May 10 2023, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 10 2023, 10:54 AM)
Yep.. SG's MAS was biggest buyer, bought 69 tons last QTR.

china, turkey, india... these BRICS/SCO kakis must be up to something. tongue.gif

https://www.gold.org/goldhub/research/gold-...3/Central-banks
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want to use gold beside others as backing aganist their currency?
Hongkong and especially China have buying gold and ban selling any gold production in China to overseas.

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post Apr 17 2024, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Apr 17 2024, 10:41 AM)
There is no better feeling than a gold brick in hand drool.gif
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this is the only time other ppl will gladly tell you to throw the brick at them laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2024, 10:56 PM

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Do you guys ever sell in this situation?
Me just don’t dare to sell now, afraid might not get back my original price if still continues upwards projection
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post Jul 19 2024, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 19 2024, 08:53 AM)
What situation?
What is your objective in buying gold?
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 19 2024, 09:01 AM)
Don't quite understand what you trying to say...

But I feel...

If your entry cost is lower... Anything you sell now is profit...

I mean, if you buy during MCO time... Now confirm profit 👌

If you thinking of buying... And then price dropped...
Your risk taking....
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U guys buy gold for 1 reason.... profit, correct?
When u guys going to realise those profit?
U guys don't have the urge to sell at high and wait for it to go down even you guys know it will goes down eventually to more reasonable price?

Property I know how to re optimize the return if required
Share market also and in some way, crypto currency too

But for gold, the other option is silver only but it very similar movement.
So guys , u hold until give to grandchildren?

at this point my gold holding are insignificant comparing to others
i just don't see any way to increase it if i can't find a way or target to exit or re optimized

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post Jul 19 2024, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 19 2024, 04:57 PM)
We buy every 'investment' for profit.
The question is are you buying gold for fast trading? I would advise against that.
I bought gold in 2002 to hedge against money printing.
I knew the returns would be at least better than FD.
I plunked my FD monies into gold.
I have been holding still.
After more than 20 years, It has been a good ride in runggit terms.
I will sell when I need the money.
I will leave the gold collectibles to my children.
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I guess majority here are just buying and forget for future generations and will not be selling even there is big possibility there will be sharp drop in gold price.
That means no matters price increase or decrease, as long there is no need for cash, the position are holding.
The hold position will never change even others return investment look tempting comparing to the gold on downtrend.
Understood your position.


QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jul 19 2024, 08:30 PM)
My investment objective is to grow my wealth. If  an asset value is going up and up, there is no real reason to sell.

Later in life, say after my retirement, my investment objective could change. From growing wealth to say living a certain lifestyle. I will.probably be selling then.

In between, I do occasionally sell. I believe long term gold will go up, but its not on a straight line. As part of risk management, I set a percentage of my asset allocation into gold and if it goes way beyond that, I could trim my position back close to my original allocation. This could be viewed as "taking profits". There is possible opportunity lost here of course.

But I do this tinkering far less often for gold than say stocks.
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Hmmm… I like this idea. Anyway precious metal are way way behind my other priority investments. Most probably will buy and forget about it.

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post Aug 30 2024, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Aug 30 2024, 05:21 PM)
Do you mind explaining why long term 1g gold bar and short term 1g gold bean?

Is it 1g gold bean is cheaper than 1g gold bar so it takes shorter time to be profitable?

Mind to share the shop that you are getting the gold bean?

Thanks.

I've been buying 1g Habib gold bar, but some claim that Habib gold bar isn't pure compare to Poh Kong.
However I don't quite understand it since 1g Habib gold bar is 999.9, same as Poh Kong, why would people claim Habib gold bar isn't pure?

Poh Kong Gold is at least 20-30% higher than Habib. I was advice to always buy the cheapest 999.9 gold bar that you can find, best if get 2nd hand gold bar if can find a trusted seller, cause 2nd hand gold bar is usually slightly cheaper than brand new gold bar.
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isn't 1g gold bar got to pay a hefty premium above gold value comparing others heavier g already? confused.gif
of cos, easier to sell or give as gift too
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post Sep 2 2024, 02:06 PM

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does those gold bean come with any logo or "chop" of purity and their company name/logo?

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post Sep 2 2024, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Sep 2 2024, 02:17 PM)
Only purity and gram, no logo.
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ohh... since there is no tamper proof capsules/case. No scare of the purity & gram?
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 20 2024, 04:10 PM)
if it stays strong like now, some imports will get cheaper.

holidays abroad gets cheaper.

parents paying kids education get cheaper.

roti canai, wantan mee - no, wont get cheaper - everyone in the chain will take the extra margin.
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if short term, yes. will not affect local because local bosses need to chase and adjust the cost profit pricing example wages increase to solve manpower issue or better ingredient to give better taste &etc.
if long term, price rebalance will take place.
maybe will give bigger portion, do more affordable lunch set & etc.
Don't mimpi price will go down lar

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post Feb 19 2025, 04:41 PM

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If audit the gold there are more than what other expected, maybe will happen
If audit the gold there less than expected or worse "kosong", USD will have nothing to stand on... Don't think higher up in command will let it happen
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post Feb 21 2025, 01:03 AM

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BoE can cincai melt other countries Gold bar without asking like Australia 80ton gold?
If they can't detect fake gold bar, who can?




https://gerardrennick.com.au/is-the-rba-hel...-price-of-gold/

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post Apr 8 2025, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(boyboycute @ Apr 5 2025, 11:33 AM)
Unker doesn't have crystal ball except for a bald head and saggy little guli underneath.

Unker just know what bottoms and tops looks like.

Unker have been through many cycles in various investments

All of them are identical and quite similar at the peak and bottom

Unker doesn't know how to gauge short term movement

As long one buy low and sell high, they will make money. Just avoid buying at the peak because that will destroy you psychologically and emotionally because your wife will nag u forever until u sell it at the bottom
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lol.... key word... don't let them know in the first place when you buying and only give out good news to wife only.
sell at good price also not good news for them. Even if after few months, price rise above our selling price, they also nag punya laugh.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Apr 8 2025, 01:24 PM)
My wife did not nag me when I sold all our HSBC shares at the top in 2007,  as I recall 8 sterling pounds(dropped down to 3), and plunk everything into gold at Rm2,300 per oz. The rest is history.  laugh.gif
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u sell at the highest price mah, then tell her...
If it continues to rise, example to 10 or above or the gold u brought then later drop below RM2k and HSBC maintain the price laugh.gif

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