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prophetjul
post Sep 30 2025, 08:43 AM

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?We?re headed to a shutdown,? Vance says after Trump meeting with leaders ends
PUBLISHED MON, SEP 29 20254:49 PM EDTUPDATED AN HOUR AGO
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/29/trump-meeti...t-shutdown.html


Odds of a government shutdown rise to 70% in prediction markets
PUBLISHED MON, SEP 29 20252:06 PM EDTUPDATED 3 HOURS AGO
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/29/odds-of-a-g...on-markets.html


Government shutdowns usually have little economic impact. This time could be different
PUBLISHED MON, SEP 29 20253:59 PM EDT
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/29/government-...-different.html
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post Oct 4 2025, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(koja6049 @ Oct 3 2025, 10:35 PM)
you need to see what are they selling. gold bars unlikely to be < Rm500/g

Most likely is jewellery. But be careful on jewellery, they quote 999 gold only for the ornament part (like the pendant, earring, etc.) But the part where you wear it on your body (like the pendant hook, pendant holder, earring piercing) are definitely not made of 999 gold as it is too soft and will break. So what the gold shop may be quoting you is the weight of the whole jewellery, the non-999 gold part is also priced in already  smile.gif
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If you are buying gold for investment, DO NOT BUY JEWELLERY. Jewellery are for decor, not for investment. High workmanship costs and premiums for jewellers to fleece you.
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post Oct 4 2025, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Oct 4 2025, 09:06 AM)
ok ok thank you. so if wanna buy, buy the gold bar or coin?
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Yeah. Bars or bullion.
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post Oct 6 2025, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Oct 5 2025, 11:00 PM)
Agreed jewellery might also be filled with resin or contain non-gold metals sold as gold weight.

Literally paying for trash  doh.gif



https://www.tiktok.com/@emasfaiz/video/7067535413161872666
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Actually it's not just that, the spreads are extremely high. Like 30% ridiculous high.
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post Oct 6 2025, 08:41 AM

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Gold high this morning was $3,920.60

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post Oct 6 2025, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Oct 6 2025, 10:45 AM)
bro...i have bought gold long time ago and glad I bought it...
but now...it's at ATH....can still continue buy?
having second thoughts now buying at ATH...
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Normally, i wlll wait for a correction.
But with gold, one never knows when correction will happen.
No. I don't know. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 7 2025, 06:24 AM

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We see $3,973.60 high this morning.

$3,977.10 now

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post Oct 7 2025, 09:27 AM

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As of early October 2025, there is strong evidence suggesting a significant
squeeze in the silver market, while analysts also indicate a potential, though less acute, short squeeze dynamic in gold.

Silver market squeeze
The silver market is experiencing a powerful squeeze driven by a combination of tight physical supply, persistent demand, and market factors. This has propelled the price of silver to multi-year highs and near record levels.
Key indicators of the silver squeeze include:
Physical supply deficits: The Silver Institute projected a fifth straight year of supply deficits for 2025, meaning demand continues to outstrip mine production.
Depleted inventories: Stockpiles held by the London Bullion Market Association (LBMA), the most important wholesale market for precious metals, have fallen to " critically low" levels.
Surging borrowing costs: The interest rate charged to borrow physical silver, known as lease rates, has risen to " extreme levels," signaling acute scarcity in the market.
Explosive demand: Industrial demand from the green energy sector (solar panels, EVs) and technology, along with increased safe-haven investment, has driven up buying.
Investor positioning: Significant capital inflows into silver ETFs and growing institutional short interest have created the conditions for a potential short squeeze, where a rapid price increase forces short sellers to buy, further accelerating the rally.

Gold market dynamics
While silver' s situation is described as a " potent squeeze mode," gold is also experiencing upward price pressure due to factors that include a potential short squeeze dynamic. However, the dynamics are somewhat different because gold' s market is much larger, making it less susceptible to the acute physical squeeze seen in silver.
Factors contributing to gold' s situation include:
A " paper gold" bubble: Some analysts argue that a massive amount of " paper gold" (derivatives and futures contracts) has been sold over many years, creating an artificial imbalance with the limited physical supply.
Central bank buying and repatriation: Central banks have been net buyers of gold for years and have been repatriating reserves. This adds a layer of stress to the heavily shorted paper market as real physical metal becomes scarcer.
Short covering: The persistent rise in gold prices has led some to believe that large bullion banks, which have held significant short positions, are being forced to cover their bets. This creates a short squeeze dynamic that drives prices higher.
Safe-haven demand: Broad-based safe-haven demand due to global economic volatility, coupled with central bank easing expectations, has pushed gold to record nominal highs.

Market implications
The situation has led to significant market activity:
In early October 2025, gold and silver are trading near or at record highs, with silver' s percentage gains for the year significantly outpacing gold' s.
The disconnect between the physical market and the derivatives market has become a major point of discussion, with some arguing that silver' s true value is being suppressed by " paper" trading.
For investors, the potential for a continued short squeeze means that holding physical metal is a way to hedge against the risks of the paper market and potentially benefit from future price appreciation.
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post Oct 8 2025, 07:31 AM

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We see $3,993.20 high this morning.


Update: $4,000 was hit.

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post Oct 8 2025, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Oct 8 2025, 10:52 AM)
dunno want to cry or happy

happy see this rise but sad see fiat currency are down the drain

now the big question is how high can it go?
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post Oct 8 2025, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Oct 8 2025, 11:32 AM)
haha... just buy not enough jer
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It's never enough. laugh.gif
For eg my gold miner has gone from 22 cents to 139 in a year.
Never enough of it! bruce.gif
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post Oct 8 2025, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 8 2025, 07:31 AM)
We see $3,993.20 high this morning.
Update: $4,000 was hit.
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O my..... $4,040.70 high. rclxub.gif
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post Oct 9 2025, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Oct 9 2025, 09:52 AM)
Actively checking need to sell, fund holiday trip to Hatyai.
Razak Gold vs Jewel Cafe.

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Razak is pretty good for buybacks?
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post Oct 10 2025, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(potatoes @ Oct 10 2025, 08:30 AM)
Its gonna be one hell of a ride!
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i have been riding since 2002. THIS cycle is what i have been waiting for after 23 years! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 11 2025, 10:51 AM

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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/10/gold-eyes-e...ear-record.html

Gold jumps above $4,000/oz again after Trump?s tariff warning on China

Gold popped back up above the $4,000-an-ounce level on Friday, set for an eighth straight weekly gain, after U.S. President Donald Trump?s warning of possible fresh tariffs on China accelerated a flight to safe-haven assets.

Spot gold was up 0.8% at $4,007.39 per ounce as of 11:18 am ET (1518 GMT). The metal has gained 3.2% so far this week.

U.S. gold futures for December delivery rose 1.3% to $4,024.40.

Non-yielding bullion, which hit a record high of $4,059.05 on Wednesday, is traditionally considered a hedge during times of broader uncertainty.

Geopolitical risks, alongside strong central bank gold-buying, exchange-traded funds inflows, U.S. rate cut expectations and economic uncertainties stemming from tariffs, have all contributed to gold?s rally.

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday there is no reason to meet with China?s President Xi Jinping in two weeks in South Korea as planned. The U.S. is calculating a massive increase in tariffs on Chinese imports, he said in a Truth Social post.

Trump?s post has seen stocks collapse a percent in minutes and gold surging back above $4,000, said Tai Wong, an independent metals trader. ?Heating up the trade war again will tank the dollar and be good for safe-havens.?

Markets are also closely monitoring the risks related to the potential collapse of the French government and the ongoing government shutdown in the United States.

Besides, investors are anticipating the U.S. Federal Reserve to cut interest rates by 25 basis points each in October and December.

?On balance, there is a risk of a short-term pullback in prices given how quickly gold prices have risen in recent weeks. But over the next couple years, gold prices are likely to grind higher,? Hamad Hussain, climate and commodities economist at Capital Economics, said.

Adding to gold?s rally, the U.S. dollar fell 0.6%, making greenback-priced bullion cheaper for overseas buyers.

Silver is also benefiting from the same factors driving gold?s rally, alongside concerns about supply deficit and rising demand for the metal.

Silver rose 2.2% to $50.21 per ounce, a day after touching a record high of $51.22. It has gained 70% so far this year.

Silver futures on Comex for December 2025 were trading at $48.03.

?Silver?s backwardation is a loud signal ? physical demand is crushing paper supply... If backwardation holds and physical demand keeps rising, silver breaking and sustaining above $50 is very realistic,? said Alex Ebkarian, COO at Allegiance Gold.

Backwardation is when a commodity?s spot price is higher than its futures price.
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post Oct 14 2025, 09:09 AM

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Gold is now $4,133.10 High
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post Oct 15 2025, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 15 2025, 09:31 AM)
after gold dipped to $4095/oz 24 hours ago, precious metals have gone higher.
Gold $4185/oz; RM568.4/g

Silver $52.10/oz; RM7.072/g

RM4.2235/$; DXY 98.91
the latest comments from the gurus:

gold target $4300 by dec, $5500 in 2026.

silver target $65 by dec, $90-100 in 2026.
enjoy! biggrin.gif
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i am getting rclxub.gif
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post Oct 15 2025, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 15 2025, 06:12 PM)
"Silver is $12 Measured in 1980 Dollars, It Has So Far To Run It Is Insane" Mike Maloney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMKzIyA7e1s

summary:

.silver market n turmoil.
.london lbma silver lease rate is now 33%, i.e. u can short sell silver by borrowing real silver at 33% pa.
.china silver now traded at $59/oz. there is no hypothecated paper silver or gold trading in china - u must hold physical before u can trade.
.india physical silver - not a sliver available; new silver ETF shares suspended.
.lbma under short squeeze, some are flying silver bars to arbitrage current comex-lbma backwardation of >$1/oz.
.1980, the hunt brothers cornered the silver market but the rules were changed - no need to deliver physical, settle in cash, hunt bros got burned in the end.
. this is the rationale why it's better to buy/hold physical precious metals, not paper.

morale of the story - buy/hold physical is preferred.
silver has a lot more room to rise.
gold or silver in bullions, bars, coins - HOLD, HOLD, HOLD!
the best things come to those who wait. tongue.gif
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Waited since 2002. tongue.gif
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post Oct 15 2025, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 15 2025, 06:29 PM)
yeah, you are the veteran here, we know. biggrin.gif

the time will come to sell and take big profit.

but i see that a long way off.

have to see how rate cuts, QE, trade wars, some new monetary order come into play.

until then, hold, no sell!

meanwhile, the accelerated pace of gold price rise also signals something is about to break... equities, bonds, credit markets...?

stay vigilant!
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YEAH. The astronomical rise of gold in such a short space of time does not project anything good for this world of ours.
It is SCARY. sweat.gif
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post Oct 16 2025, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Oct 16 2025, 07:01 AM)
1. Mild anxiety
2. Moderate worry
3. Intense fear
4. Panic
5. Terror

If an Unker in East Malaysia who enjoyed successful career and exhibited high financial acumen is "scared" (falls between 3 & 4, in fact closer to 4)...then i think the real problem is national level Fxxxxd! I believe  to be true.

I think it getting closer to seven stars.
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Actually i am scared for the world situation. That's why gold is behaving as such. In my 23 years in gold, i have never seen such behaviour.
The rate of the rise of the price is telling a story of severe disaster. Maybe in the markets and economies of countries.



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