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 Gold Investment Corner V8, All About Gold

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prophetjul
post Feb 19 2020, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Feb 19 2020, 03:50 PM)
I would also pawn my underwear when it was RM35  rclxs0.gif
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Thing is; Did you buy any when it was RM35? wink.gif
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post Feb 21 2020, 02:47 PM

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1 oz gold kijang is now RM6,919 HIGHEST ever! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Feb 22 2020, 03:24 PM

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Wondering who's still here from early threads on gold? smile.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1771874&hl=
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post Feb 24 2020, 08:56 AM

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Went up to $1680 this morning.
Now $1662
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post Feb 24 2020, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Aventador360 @ Feb 24 2020, 09:29 AM)
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We will probably see $1800 very soon this year.
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post Mar 6 2020, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(OnePiece999 @ Mar 6 2020, 01:12 AM)
Very shobby, Geneva in the making?
TradePlus Shariah Gold Tracker (Stock Code: 0828EA, Stock Short Name: GOLDETF) is Malaysia's first Shariah-compliant commodity ETF that provide investors a Shariah-compliant avenue to invest in physical gold without the hassle of storing or insuring gold bullion. The Fund closely tracks the returns of gold through an Exchange-traded Fund structure; where units are tradeable on Bursa Malaysia Securities.



1. The GOLDETF is BACKED by PHYSICAL GOLD

Asset Allocation as per prospectus:

Minimum 95% of the Fund's NAV is to be invested in physical Gold bars purchased from LBMA accredited refineries
Remaining balance is to be invested in Islamic money market instruments and/or Islamic deposits


Current Asset Allocation (as at 6 September 2019)

99.87% in Physical Gold Bars
0.13% in Islamic money market instruments and/or Islamic deposits
The actual asset allocation is announced daily on Bursa Malaysia (http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/6278725)



As at end August 2019, the Fund holds 274kg (8,808.55 ounces) gold bars. The list of Gold bars are available for download monthly from https://www.tradeplus.com.my/gold-tracker.html.


100 units of the GOLDETF = 1.01107 gram of gold (274kg / 27.1million units x 100units)


2. The GOLDETF is redeemable in PHYSICAL GOLD
If you own 500,000 units of the GOLDETF, you may request to redeem physical gold instead of cash. 500,000 units of the GOLDETF will get you 5kg gold bars plus USD 2,994.34 (as at 6 September 2019).

3. The GOLDETF has to be traded "ON-THE-SPOT"
As the GOLDETF is Shariah-compliant, units have to be traded on-the-spot. As such, the Broker has to ensure that either:-
a) the buying client makes payment via cash upfront; or

b) the buying client relies on margin financiing to purchase the units

Due to this reason, some brokers may have suspended the GOLDETF for online trading. As they have to deduct payment upfront, you may have to contact your brokers if you would like to trade the GOLDETF.


4. The GOLDETF does not pay you any income distribution.

5. You can trade the GOLDETF on Bursa Malaysia through any Malaysian brokers with a minimum of 100 units.




Did you know that stamp duty is WAIVED for all ETF transactions till December 2020?

Take this opportunity to start investing in Gold.





Disclaimer: This content has been prepared by Affin Hwang Asset Management Berhad (hereinafter referred to as “Affin Hwang AM”)
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Thanks for sharing. thumbup.gif
prophetjul
post Mar 10 2020, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Mar 9 2020, 09:50 PM)
It's so interesting, as mentioned in my earlier mail. The significant dichotomy between gold price vs gold stock price.
Gold stocks is losing 5-6% this morning, a repeat of 28/2.

Will be interesting to look at our goldetf tomorrow.
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Gold stocks are equites first and foremost. They will be subjected to the sentiments of the market.

They still need to deliver the numbers and its a tough industry.
With fuel going down presently, their profitability will go up significantly, all things being equal.
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post Mar 16 2020, 03:38 PM

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During the GFC of 2008-09, gold was also sold together with the rest of the other assets going from $1000 to $680.

Then, it took OFF to $1900 in 2011!
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post Mar 16 2020, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 16 2020, 04:00 PM)
For reasons few realized.
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That time, I think the US debt was around 10 trillion. NOw its 23 trillion! With interest going down to a big FAT 0
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post Mar 16 2020, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 16 2020, 04:50 PM)
If your reason is valid, gold price should remain at record high but is not.
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Its price movement is not exactly accurately related to the growth of the US debt. We are dealing with electronic gold price here.
Shorts are in control. Until they are not.
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post Mar 25 2020, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Mar 24 2020, 11:18 PM)
My 2 cents to those who are starting.
Please don't buy cause you read somewhere or your friend told you it is a good investment. If these 2 are your deciding factors, there is a high chance you will lose money by selling it prematurely if the price drops a lot as you are not buying with conviction.

Gold 101 : It is a wealth PRESERVATION asset NOT a wealth CREATION asset (like your shares, CFD, property and etc.) thumbsup.gif

It is meant to preserve your wealth and be used as a hedge against your other asset classes which you have in your portfolio. It also can be used as a hedge against inflation  wink.gif

Another common misconception is this : I wish the price can reach USD 10,000/oz (spot price is USD 1600/oz now), I will be rich  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Gold is often used as a barometer on how well the economy is doing (the worst the economy, the higher the price), so imagine what the world situation will be at if gold reaches USD 10,000/oz . Probably at that time the worry will only be putting food on the table sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Agree that gold is for preservation of wealth especially now that the central banks are printing paper like mad.

When I first bought gold in 2002, I shared that it will be better than your money in FDs, AND IT IS.
I am reaping 11.5% CAGR on gold as of today. If I put in FDs, it only around 4%
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post Mar 25 2020, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Unkerpanjang @ Mar 25 2020, 08:24 AM)
Sitting on, > $5mil cash.
Worst case scenario, recession... kwsp, Sgp bonds n asnb fp dividend go down drain. Passive income greatly reduced.

All Properties paid up, but is a liquidity swamp due bad times.

Sgp n My stocks, $0.5mil @ 30 down. Can go down further. Likely, discontinue dividend.

Still employed, but can go bad with massive pay cut or let go.

Ringgit can get massively devalued with debts n low commodity prices.

The best diversification and hedge...just sharing, as photo paints a 1000 words.

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You should be in the FIRE thread. This is a gold discussion here. rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 25 2020, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Mar 25 2020, 09:35 AM)
what if u take into consideration of compounding interest on the FD? what's the percentage like?
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its written in my post if you care to read
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post Apr 2 2020, 10:34 AM

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You have to pay around 12% premium nowadays for physical

https://www.apmex.com/category/11101/1-oz-a...old-eagle-coins
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post Apr 3 2020, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Dd2318 @ Apr 3 2020, 06:14 AM)
The counterparty risk for GLD is HSBC...
This bank is in risk category n might require bailout (already stopped paying out dividends to preserve cash).
So tread cautiously.
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Don't be silly and spread fake news. HSBC has already declared dividend distribution. Its the regulators which stopped distributions and share buybacks for the UK banks.

https://www.scmp.com/business/banking-finan...spend-buy-backs
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post Apr 3 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Apr 3 2020, 12:10 PM)
Fella is not wrong. GLD is also uninsured, if got gold bars missing then the fund can drop by that many % to account for it.
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What do you think a custodian is? laugh.gif

In fact all the gold may be GONE! laugh.gif

So you think HSBC is insolvent inspite of declaring a dividend? laugh.gif

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Apr 3 2020, 02:05 PM
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post Apr 4 2020, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Apr 3 2020, 10:40 PM)
They might not go insolvent but when it comes to credibility, they definitely do not have one as they have been indicted in court and they themselves have admitted in laundering millions for the drug cartels. Banks unfortunately still give people the perception that they are 'too big to fail' but Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers,  Merrill Lynch and etc will argue otherwise  sweat.gif
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So you ARE speculating? Do you know the difference between Freddie Mac, Mae and HSBC? laugh.gif

Every bank launders. Its whether you get caught or not.
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post May 6 2020, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(donhay @ May 5 2020, 05:58 PM)
where is the best place to buy gold bar 50g other than jewellery shop like Poh Kong /Tomei in Klang Valley?
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Don't buy in jewelry shops. Their premiums are very high.
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post May 6 2020, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(clamp_wl @ May 5 2020, 10:46 PM)
So regarding paper gold, does Maybank actually purchase the gold and save it in a vault for us? Newbie here.
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Do they allow redemption of the physical gold.
If no, I doubt they have the gold!
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post May 6 2020, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(donhay @ May 6 2020, 09:39 AM)
Yes, retail jewelry shops' premiums are high. Where can I get physical gold bar, like 50/100g ?
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Not sure. There are a few credible ones in Msia. But they may not have stocks presently.

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