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 Gold Investment Corner V8, All About Gold

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prophetjul
post Jun 22 2019, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Jun 22 2019, 12:52 PM)
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nahhh....that's inhuman.

Maybe another $100 rise before uncles and auntiez come back. laugh.gif
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post Jun 23 2019, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 22 2019, 06:23 PM)
by then - buy high, sell low? tongue.gif
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some like to do that. Rush of blood i guess. laugh.gif or herd instinct? confused.gif
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post Jun 25 2019, 08:24 AM

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Stretching up to $1426 presently.

Very very overbought

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post Jul 19 2019, 08:44 AM

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Gold at $1443 and still quiet.

good.
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post Aug 5 2019, 02:22 PM

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$1458 now
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post Aug 8 2019, 10:12 AM

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Busted $1500 rclxms.gif

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/07/gold-surges...-this-year.html


Gold surges above $1,500, now has a better return than stocks this year


Gold rose to its highest level in more than six years on Wednesday as concerns about the global economy made the precious metal and other traditional safe havens more attractive than riskier assets like stocks. The metal also caught a bid as the amount of negative-yielding bonds keeps growing.

Gold futures for December delivery jumped 2.2% to trade at $1,522.70 per ounce. Wednesday marked the first time since April 2013 that gold traded above $1,500. The gains brought the metal’s gains to more than 18%. That return is higher than the S&P 500′s 14.3% year-to-date gain.

Investors turned to gold at a time when the amount of debt trading at negative yield increases. Currently, there is $15 trillion worth of bonds with negative rates. This makes gold more attractive since it retains its value even in times of slower economic growth.

Concerns over the global economy come as the U.S.-China trade war intensified with Chinese authorities allowing the country’s currency, the yuan, to depreciate against the dollar while several central banks around the world cut interest rates.

“That is the biggest factor because it introduces a whole new set of risks to the equation,” said Ryan Giannotto, director of research at GraniteShares. “What’s really playing into people’s fears is does the depreciation of the yuan signify a larger threat to the economy.”
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post Aug 8 2019, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(yeowhock @ Aug 8 2019, 10:58 AM)
Almost every corner In the world in chaos, thus the surge, bittersweet
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Yeah

Seems that the perfect storm is coming real soon.

Every central bank cutting rates does not auger well for the global economic outlook.
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post Aug 8 2019, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(Javaguy @ Aug 8 2019, 11:16 AM)
Try Forex which I have invest for 6 month and the average return around 5%-6% monthly which manage by experience trader.
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There may be no returns too, with Forex. Like negative ones. laugh.gif
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post Aug 8 2019, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Javaguy @ Aug 8 2019, 03:42 PM)
At first I also think like you but i just try with min because the trader is my relative friend and my relative proof to me that it withdraw money from the broker site. So far the lower return is around 4% within 6 months which we need to pay trader from the profit.
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Good luck
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post Aug 26 2019, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2019, 09:44 AM)
Only in time of turbulence/uncertainty.
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TBF Think he did specify

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QUOTE(zodd @ Aug 26 2019, 02:12 AM)
There's no interest. Worth it for gold savers or those with low budget. For high roller trader, they will ignore this. A lot of people dont have that much money but want to keep a long term asset. gold is the best choice.



Better than FD for sure.


Gold was Rm1122 in 2002.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?csrf=47f6d...h=12&EndYr=2002

Now its approx Rm6400.


That's around 10% CAGR. Much better than FD.

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post Aug 26 2019, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2019, 10:15 AM)
Not a few years ago. Situation could change after u.s presidential election next year.
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2014 was around Rm4300 CAGR 7%

2015 Rm4500 8%

2016 Rm5400 7%

2019 Rm6400


Not too shabby?

And we are talking about holding it like you would an FD.


That's a guess. The world's growth is not just Trump's problem alone. China's growth has been slowing before Trump.
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post Aug 26 2019, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2019, 10:32 AM)
World economy could be slow or even in recession in the near future, doesn't mean it will remain unchanged.
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So will the change affect gold?

I guess a recession will drive gold up further especially in a new and untested environment of negative interest rates in many places.

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post Aug 26 2019, 11:02 AM

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Today's gold is Rm6,632

CAGR just went up further.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?csrf=1f711...h=12&EndYr=2019
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post Aug 26 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2019, 11:31 AM)
In time of turbulence and uncertainty, gold could be a favourable. Unless you believe world economy will not return to growth, need to consider when to dispose gold.
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Again....the poster consider a long term haul.
In that respect, I would compare it with FD.

And in that light, I think its value retention is better than an FD. I did not trade mine from 2002 to date and holding it as value asset, it has done well.

Certainly, if you are looking at other trades, then maybe not. In this sense, As with other assets, they have their time. Problem of course is no one is actually very good at timing entry and exits that well.
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post Aug 26 2019, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2019, 03:05 PM)
Many goldbugs bought in 2011/12, more appropriate and realistic to compare with this period.
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Still get about 5.5% CAGR. And we don't know where the top is yet since this gold bull has just started.
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post Aug 26 2019, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2019, 03:53 PM)
Or bottom after the bull run.
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Look at the charts. It has just started after taking out the tops.

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post Aug 26 2019, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2019, 04:13 PM)
Like every bull run, it will eventually end. The question is when?
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Of course every run will come to an end. That is obvious.

Its also obvious from the chart that this gold run has just started. When is the end? Who knows?

Just enjoy and manage the run up.

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post Aug 27 2019, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 26 2019, 06:35 PM)
No one knows what will happen tomorrow but most events occurred are predictable.
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Can you predict when the next recession is coming?

When the next tech boom will be?
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post Aug 27 2019, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Aug 26 2019, 11:41 PM)
Those are not gold bugs.. They are sheep...

Many sheeps are like that.. They buy at the end of a bull cycle. Like those sheep buying cryptos at end 2017..
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In a way, many of us are sheep. We are led by news, commentaries, recommendations, etc.

The thing is there are wise sheep and blind sheep.

I was introduced to bitcoin in around 2010 when it was $0.10 biggrin.gif

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post Aug 27 2019, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 27 2019, 01:26 PM)
just ride first...
until year end I guess.. or until middle of next year???

cannot really predict...
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If you looked at the last bull run in the chart above, it lasted from 2003 to 2011.

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