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English Clubs Chelsea FC V29, BPL - Man Utd 1 - 1 Chelsea

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post Sep 17 2014, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(hakka_jin @ Sep 17 2014, 11:09 AM)
do we really need Pogba? I think for the moment with Rami and Mikel as backup we are gooding.... if Pogba comes, someone will have to give way... interesting to see how much is Hazard's new deal gonna worth... am sure he will demand higher wages... Real is keen to grab him coming transfer... maybe as early as January... but the problem with Real Madrid now is not offense... it's their defense that is lacking... Ramos is poor this few games.... they should buy defensive players... not attacking players....  doh.gif
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i might point out some PL teams has this philosophy of the BEST defend is to attack more tongue.gif
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post Sep 17 2014, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(hakka_jin @ Sep 17 2014, 11:09 AM)
do we really need Pogba? I think for the moment with Rami and Mikel as backup we are gooding.... if Pogba comes, someone will have to give way... interesting to see how much is Hazard's new deal gonna worth... am sure he will demand higher wages... Real is keen to grab him coming transfer... maybe as early as January... but the problem with Real Madrid now is not offense... it's their defense that is lacking... Ramos is poor this few games.... they should buy defensive players... not attacking players....  doh.gif
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Mainly due to homegrown and depth
and juventus relax je having vidal and pogba.
I love when we have luiz and matic combo last seasons.

QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 17 2014, 11:28 AM)
Pogba = matic. Dont think we need him atm. Maybe need another proven cb. Zouma still too raw.
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Y not both.

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post Sep 17 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 17 2014, 11:42 AM)
Mainly due to homegrown and depth
and juventus relax je having vidal and pogba.
I love when we have luiz and matic combo last seasons.
Y not both.
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if use both. too defensive imo. our current set up is balance dy. need some work on defense though. hopefully, we will see improvement in next 2 or 3 games.
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post Sep 17 2014, 12:02 PM

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post Sep 17 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Sep 17 2014, 11:50 AM)
if use both. too defensive imo. our current set up is balance dy. need some work on defense though. hopefully, we will see improvement in next 2 or 3 games.
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We are having a rather very offensive squad.
having a solid backlines especially filling up homegrown squad is important.

I have said it before.
though we have a rather balance sqaud in term of defensive department, attacking department and pivot department but we have a rather imbalance homegrown vs international vs england contingent.
We are having trouble fine tuning that.
not to forget we still have quite a few top class prospects which is not considered as hg such as atsu, piazon, zouma, mvg and so on.
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post Sep 17 2014, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(hakka_jin @ Sep 17 2014, 11:09 AM)
do we really need Pogba? I think for the moment with Rami and Mikel as backup we are gooding.... if Pogba comes, someone will have to give way... interesting to see how much is Hazard's new deal gonna worth... am sure he will demand higher wages... Real is keen to grab him coming transfer... maybe as early as January... but the problem with Real Madrid now is not offense... it's their defense that is lacking... Ramos is poor this few games.... they should buy defensive players... not attacking players....  :x
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I read Hazard salary gonna be around 200kpw. highest paid in the club.Also Dont think pogba will be on our radar.maybe khedira if we get him on free transfer
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2.40 am..
damn it. not sure can tahan mata or not.
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post Sep 17 2014, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 17 2014, 01:16 AM)
An interesting analysis on fabregas.


I think it going to take a while for fabregas to learn how to play more efficiently at pivot.
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a very gud watch. Cesc no doubt is gud in attacking and playing passes or 1-2 pass. But his positional awareness is not that great. Which is why he always didn't get to play in the 'Xavi' role in Barca and resulting Barca to push him to a more forward position. I read from the comment. Barca actually sacrifice a bit to adapt to Cesc's style, but in the end to no avail. They even push Iniesta to the wide side and let Cesc play the creator role. But in the end maybe they feel it's not worth it to sacrifice the team's style compared to Cesc's lack of positional awareness.

He always look to go forward, leaving too much space for Matic to cover.

So i think against big team like City, Mou might revert to 433. Ram, Matic and Cesc in midfield. Ram to cover for Cesc's forward play. hmm.gif

If Mou is playing Ram, Matic and Cesc as a midfield trio, it really make us wonder, why not go for Pogba. With Pogba, MAtic and Cesc playing in 433, it is unstoppable! flex.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Sep 17 2014, 01:24 PM)
a very gud watch. Cesc no doubt is gud in attacking and playing passes or 1-2 pass. But his positional awareness is not that great. Which is why he always didn't get to play in the 'Xavi' role in Barca and resulting Barca to push him to a more forward position. I read from the comment. Barca actually sacrifice a bit to adapt to Cesc's style, but in the end to no avail. They even push Iniesta to the wide side and let Cesc play the creator role. But in the end maybe they feel it's not worth it to sacrifice the team's style compared to Cesc's lack of positional awareness.

He always look to go forward, leaving too much space for Matic to cover.

So i think against big team like City, Mou might revert to 433. Ram, Matic and Cesc in midfield. Ram to cover for Cesc's forward play. hmm.gif

If Mou is playing Ram, Matic and Cesc as a midfield trio, it really make us wonder, why not go for Pogba. With Pogba, MAtic and Cesc playing in 433, it is unstoppable!  flex.gif
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Mainly barca dun have the right player to cover the defense.
We can put ramires or willian to provide cover.
or perhaps oscar move to the pivots and fabregas move to the trident.
Having matic-cesc-pogba would gives us the strongest fortress.
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Sep 17 2014, 02:24 PM)
a very gud watch. Cesc no doubt is gud in attacking and playing passes or 1-2 pass. But his positional awareness is not that great. Which is why he always didn't get to play in the 'Xavi' role in Barca and resulting Barca to push him to a more forward position. I read from the comment. Barca actually sacrifice a bit to adapt to Cesc's style, but in the end to no avail. They even push Iniesta to the wide side and let Cesc play the creator role. But in the end maybe they feel it's not worth it to sacrifice the team's style compared to Cesc's lack of positional awareness.

He always look to go forward, leaving too much space for Matic to cover.

So i think against big team like City, Mou might revert to 433. Ram, Matic and Cesc in midfield. Ram to cover for Cesc's forward play. :hmm:

If Mou is playing Ram, Matic and Cesc as a midfield trio, it really make us wonder, why not go for Pogba. With Pogba, MAtic and Cesc playing in 433, it is unstoppable!  :flex:
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Rather nice problem for us to have. He can exchange position with oscar....i love his intricate pass between oscar, hazard at the pocket area edge of opposition box...how many times edi we slice oppo defence with his witts and vision from that area...its like we gain additional attacking setplay from barca tiki taka style a bit...
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post Sep 17 2014, 01:52 PM

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i think oscar is better than cesc playing the pivot role coz oscar is better in tackling , work rate and closing down compared to cesc.

but cesc vision and through pass is simply masterclass.
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post Sep 17 2014, 03:02 PM

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anyone taking leave tomorrow to watch the match tonight?
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post Sep 17 2014, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 17 2014, 03:02 PM)
anyone taking leave tomorrow to watch the match tonight?
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i guess its too early for that..
maybe when on knock out round only will people take leave to watch the game..
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QUOTE(soulseeker6187 @ Sep 17 2014, 01:52 PM)
i think oscar is better than cesc playing the pivot role coz oscar is better in tackling , work rate and closing down compared to cesc.

but cesc vision and through pass is simply masterclass.
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maybe next time we will play Oscar on pivot, but they are free to exchange position with Fab depending on situation..

hazard ----- fab------ wilian
-------oscar-----matic----

aside from matic, the rest of them could have exchange position with each other during game.. icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif .. this kind of play is tricky to defend.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(hazif22 @ Sep 17 2014, 03:16 PM)
i guess its too early for that..
maybe when on knock out round only will people take leave to watch the game..
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if it was last night then worth to take leave.....long stretch from friday brows.gif
i see my friends clear leave until so song doh.gif
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post Sep 17 2014, 03:35 PM

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instead of splashing cash for Pogba (by all means he's a great player), we should just utilize Rami in that pivot. He's been brilliant this season a reminiscence of former himself couple of seasons back.

the number 10 position should be Fabregas, no brainer. Oscar is good but in terms of creativity and passing ability hands down for Fabregas.


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so who's watching tonight's match??
http://www.streamsp.com/ showing Bayern Munich vs Man City tonight tho.
guess need use other streaming sites lol. no HD sad.gif
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Sep 17 2014, 04:35 PM)
instead of splashing cash for Pogba (by all means he's a great player), we should just utilize Rami in that pivot. He's been brilliant this season a reminiscence of former himself couple of seasons back.

the number 10 position should be Fabregas, no brainer. Oscar is good but in terms of creativity and passing ability hands down for Fabregas.
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pogba is almost impossible to get atm

I like the idea of using Ramires in the pivot now, considering he now improve his first touch and release the ball quickly.

yes, fabregas should be no 10, but he also can be CM in the 3 system midfielder.

the most likely reinforcement that we can get in either january or free for next summer will be Khedira.


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post Sep 17 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Sep 17 2014, 03:35 PM)
instead of splashing cash for Pogba (by all means he's a great player), we should just utilize Rami in that pivot. He's been brilliant this season a reminiscence of former himself couple of seasons back.

the number 10 position should be Fabregas, no brainer. Oscar is good but in terms of creativity and passing ability hands down for Fabregas.
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Well that on wish list no harm to dream about it.
Well as for ramires I'm okay as long as he dun go full retards like last seasons.

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