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post Sep 13 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(babychai @ Sep 13 2014, 12:28 AM)
Dear Doctor,

I never drink coffee and didn't smoke but my teeth naturally got black stain. I go to dentist almost every 6 months to wash my mouth and try different dentist but the black stain will come back again around in 3 months time. All doctor also do not know why how come I got black stain. Some say it is cause by my saliva.

May I know do you have long term solution for this?

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Hi, first of all I would like to tell that there are staining of teeth is basically multifactorial. The causes of staining are divided into extrinsic and intrinsic stains. Intrinsic stains are usually caused by some diseases like blood diseases, inherited diseases while extrinsic stains are more common among the community. For your case, the reason of staining might NOT ONLY be coffee. It may be due to other food stains like tea, wine, curry, soft drink etc. Furthermore, some people are prone to stains naturally due to chromogenic bacteria. Well, basically these bacteria will only be present due to plaque accumulation. So you have to maintain your oral health by brushing your teeth twice a day and flossing daily. Also, I would suggest you to rinse your mouth after every meal.
How to reduce teeth staining:
1. Rinse your mouth after every meal
2. Use a straw to drink
3. Chewing gums are good sometimes but beware of the sugar contents
4. Brush your teeth twice daily with fluoridated toothpaste
5. Regular visit to your dentist (at least in 6 months interval)
For the treatment wise, there are plenty of ways to treat tooth staining.
1. Polishing of teeth (I suppose your dentist would have done it for you)
2. Bleaching gels (Effective but need long term follow up as well)
3. Fixing a porcelain veneer or crown (Porcelain is the best material as it does not stain BUT we need to excessively remove the tooth structure to fix the restoration and it is very costly)
Discuss with your dentist about your problems and he will evaluate your conditions and provide a suitable treatment for you. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(jazzkobis @ Sep 13 2014, 08:56 AM)
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Hi, first of all, good idea for making this thread! i'll be reading it from time to time

i have a question, i am now wearing braces from private orthodontist, I feel like going for scaling but it's kinda pricey to do it at a private clinic (like around RM800), therefore is it possible to do scaling & whitening with braces on at a gov dentistry?
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Hi, it is advisable to do scaling during your orthodontic treatment. And for whitening, i would advice you to do it after you completed your treatment, this is because ( I assume you wearing the metal braces) if you do whitening, the teeth surface below the bracket will not expose to the the whitening treatment.

Gov clinic only have scaling for Rm2, but whitening have to go to private clinic laugh.gif

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Sep 13 2014, 09:56 AM)
Hi AskTheDent,

What does it mean when your gums bleed when you brush but you don't feel anything? unsure.gif

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Hi, bleeding gums is a very common problem and even though there is no pain, it does not mean you should stop treating it!
Let me explain what is 'bleeding gums'. It is a sign of inflammation (A response from our body to protect us from infection or harmful stimulus) in your mouth. It is usually due to gum diseases which initiate from the bacteria in the plaque. Our body's defence tries to 'fight' with the bacteria and in the early stage, you will see just redness and probably mild swelling of your gums. If the plaque is not removed (by brushing/ scaling), the bacteria accumulates and infection becomes persistent, now the pain may gradually get worse. If it is still not resolved, the pain might be severe and simultaneously, you will have serious infection of your gums.
So, please do not ignore any sign that your body is telling. Visit a dentist as early as possible once you encounter any problems regarding oral health. smile.gif
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post Sep 13 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(chongliherng @ Sep 13 2014, 02:10 PM)
Hi there,

Nice thread and information, Keep it up thumbup.gif
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Thanks, please ask here if you have any doubt rclxms.gif
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post Sep 13 2014, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 13 2014, 02:50 PM)
Hope you can help me here. I know that I am just taking a chance with my vague question here.

My niece (19 years old, in another town) has tooth/gum pain for some 3 months now. She has seen 3 dentists already and still no full recovery yet. X ray taken etc. The pain is at the back end of the mouth (molar region).

If you need more infor, let me know and I can ask her.

Is there a growing up gum/teeth problem for young adults and the unlucky ones will really suffer?

Many thanks.

P/S For myself, my wife "complains" of my bad breath. I did not have that problem until about a year ago. I brush 2-3 times a day, rinse with Listerine twice a day. I don't think it is due to my teeth. Due to ulcer decaying food? Saw some video on Youtube on this. Tried it and cannot find any yellow solids there either.
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Based on your info, i guess it is from 3rd molar/ wisdom teeth. People around this age usually have this kind of problem. The wisdom teeth is erupting, and it will be uncomfortable. If it is due to wisdom teeth, i will usually ask the patient to bear with the pain and let it erupt, the pain can be control by taking pain killer, and also to take care the oral hygiene by gargling with water after each meal. Note that there is a chance the tooth is tilted and no chance for it to erupt, if the tilted wisdom teeth giving pain, extraction is the only way.

Impacted 3rd molar
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For bad breath, try
1) Brush your tongue
2) Avoid strong smell food, like garlic and onion
3) If your teeth have cavity, food may get stuck inside and hard to get out, hence the smell
4) Drink lot of water
5) Do flossing and interdental brushing, sometime food may get stuck in between teeth and its hard to get it out by brushing alone
6) Chew sugar-free gum ( temporarily measure )
7) Go for dental check up, maybe you have abscess that you didnt notice, or its time for you to do scaling. A thick calculus can often produce unpleasant smell

Hope this help thumbup.gif


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post Sep 13 2014, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 13 2014, 03:48 PM)
Noted and many thanks Doc!

Will inform my niece.

1) Do that some times
3) Did my checkup about 6 months ago, no cavity, did minor descaling.
4) Guilty!
5) Do flossing when I cannot dislodge the food stuck in between teeth

Cheerio.
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Do update here if you have any improvement icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Sep 13 2014, 04:46 PM)
I see, cuz it happened 1 day after my braces were removed and they take dental impression but before my retainers were issued, also when I was re-learning to talk without braces laugh.gif Dentist advise brushing after meals and after few days it's okay biggrin.gif
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I think it was alright, congratulation on finally removed your braces, i know you feel. I wore my braces for 4 and half year, haha
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post Sep 13 2014, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 13 2014, 08:07 PM)
"The wisdom teeth is erupting, and it will be uncomfortable."

How long will that normally take?

Days, weeks or months?

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Well, it depends on each individual's tooth eruption rate. For wisdom teeth, it varies from person to person. Some wisdom teeth might not fully erupt or covered by a layer of gum tissues.

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Some might erupt in place or slightly tilted like the x-ray image I showed in the previous thread but some might not be out AT ALL. It may be due to many reasons like lack of space to erupt or the tooth beside prevents it from erupting.
So what you can do currently is to maintain the oral health by brushing properly, flossing and using mouthwash. If the pain is unbearable, take some painkiller and visit the dentist. There may be some infections underneath the gums or some diseases related to the tooth. And one more important thing is to rest well! smile.gif

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post Sep 14 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(isildur88 @ Sep 14 2014, 02:31 AM)
im experiencing really sharp pain on my broken tooth for the past week and really pain until cant sleep for 2 days now. im planning to see the doctor today afternoon. any tips to reduce the pain.

im taking ponston meds to reduce the pain but it does not seem to reduce lol.
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Hi, sorry for late reply and glad to hear your plan relieve. BUT , i still want to prepare you for worst case. If you experiencing throbbing pain during sleeping, it means the infection has already gone into the bone. The best treatment is root canal treatment. But the pain can also be relieve with normal filling, with the chance of the pain coming back, so when the pain has come back, you know that this teeth is beyond normal filling, root canal treatment or extraction is the treatment.
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post Sep 15 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(isildur88 @ Sep 14 2014, 11:38 PM)
thanks for your reply

the doctor gave me the option. Root Canal or pull the tooth. i chose root canal. he already jab my gums with GA.
during the doctor was cleaning the teeth preparing for the root canal. suddenly he said no need to do root canal
it is close to the nerve but have not hit it. so he proceed with normal filling.

as of now. the pain is still there when eating which i think is normal as it requires a few days of healing.
will update here if the pain comes back(hopefully it do not)  flex.gif
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Yeah, hopefully is ok...Do update here thumbup.gif
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post Sep 15 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Sep 15 2014, 09:14 AM)
no... it's not gonna be ok... you know that... I know that.....
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Yeah, I already told him the worst case scenario so he know what to do when it is pain next time
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post Sep 15 2014, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Sep 15 2014, 09:14 AM)
no... it's not gonna be ok... you know that... I know that.....
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Yeah, I already told him the worst case scenario so he know what to do when it is pain next time
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post Sep 15 2014, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(rannworld @ Sep 15 2014, 06:09 PM)
Hi doc. Any recommendation Mouthwash products for people with braces? I am currently using Listerine original flavour. But the sting feeling is very strong. Thank you. 😂
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Try this, is not so strong...but it is not easily find as listerine

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post Sep 16 2014, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(babycry123 @ Sep 15 2014, 11:50 PM)
My dentist removed 4 pre-molars of mine for braces purpose. My question is, will the extraction sites resorp and once the other teeth are aligned to the extraction site will the tooth loose due to bone loss? And gum recession too?
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No it wont cause your teeth to be shaking. Im a live example of your question

QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Sep 16 2014, 02:09 PM)
seriously???
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Yeah, whats wrong with that?
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post Sep 17 2014, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(lozenges @ Sep 16 2014, 05:10 PM)
Since brushing played an important role in preserving our teeth and not many people are brushing pure teeth in correct way, do u thinking using electronic tooth brush will overcome this problem? Or using our conventional tooth brush is better? Is there any side effect if using electronic tooth brush?
My dentist is not suggesting me to us mouth rinse Bcs she told that mouth rinse can cause staining on our tooth.....is it true? What mouth rinse u suggest?
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Electronic and manual is very subjective, i tried both and i still prefer the manual. I dont think there is any side effect of electronic tooth brush other than its more expensive biggrin.gif

Should I use mouthwash?
Yes, using a mouthwash that contains fluoride can help prevent tooth decay and help get rid of any last bits of bacteria or leftover food that you might have missed with your toothbrush.

However, don't use mouthwash straight after brushing your teeth. Choose a separate time, such as after lunch. And don't eat or drink for 30 minutes after using a fluoride mouthwash.

Many mouthwashes contain alcohol, so they're not suitable for children, as they could swallow them accidentally. If you use a mouthwash with alcohol, you may get a very dry mouth and dry, cracked lips due to the drying effect of the alcohol. You can avoid this by using an alcohol-free version.

Some mouthwash contain chlorhexidine ( refer the reply by Dr.Barbarian below ) and it will stain the teeth

I quote from internet:
Chlorhexidine staining
'active ingredient of Chlorhexidine gluconate (CG for short). Now this stuff, has got a VERY good track record on treating active gum disease. What this stuff does is actually stick to your teeth, gums, tongue and inhibit bacteria. Its fancy scientific classification is… “ a cationic bisbiguanide.” The CG opens up bacterial cell walls and kills them, less bacteria in the mouth, less inflammation, less gum disease. Thats the basics of it.

However, there are side effects, these include discoluration of fillings and teeth, staining of your tongue, altered taste sensation, metallic taste and increased calculus/tartar formation. This is not a good thing.'

I used Colgate Plax and Listerine before, i prefer Colgate Plax because is cause no burning sensation. Listerine is too strong for me

QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Sep 16 2014, 08:13 PM)
chlorhexidine  mouth rinse(oradex, bactidol, etc) will cause severe staining especially
if used for more than a week and having braces.... definitely a no no for this case....
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Oh ya, now i recall back. Once i have a patient with chlorhexidine staining, but he finish the whole small bottle in a week. The chlorhexidine stain can be removed by scaling right.Anyway, thanks for tips doc thumbup.gif
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post Sep 17 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(PuRp13 @ Sep 16 2014, 09:32 PM)
I have yellowish teeth. But I brush my teeth twice a day and didn't even skip once. What is the reason then?

Does scaling helps to whiten my teeth?
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Yellowish due to tobacco and food stain usually can be whiten back by scaling, because the stain is superficial. But if the yellowish staining is due to thinning of teeth layer ( Our teeth have 2 layers, the outer layer is whiter, and inner layer is yellowish. As time goes by, the outer layer become thinner thus the teeth become more and more yellowish ), then it whitening cant be done by scaling.

In short, scaling can be helpful for stain that is superficial. Other than that, bleaching is the other option, but the effect is not permanent.


QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Sep 16 2014, 10:14 PM)
Hi,

Anyone can share a good orthodontic in Alor Setar/Jitra/Changloon area?
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I asked one of my friend, in Jitra, Dr Yeoh doing. Whereas in Alor Setar, Klinik Selesa in Simpang Kuala and another clinic opposite Star Parade. Im not sure how is their work, only know they providing the service

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post Sep 18 2014, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(PuRp13 @ Sep 17 2014, 01:16 PM)
I think I have this yellowish teeth since I was small. I don't smoke tho. What is the reason causes thinning of teeth layer ?

Btw, I am a dental student to be. Going to start my course next month in Manipal India.  biggrin.gif
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Some is just congenital and genetic. If you notice, Indian society has a much whiter teeth, one of the reason is the contrast of their skin color to teeth, making it whiter. But if you just look at the teeth itself, it also appear whiter than other races. Thinning of teeth by by daily wear and tear, or acid attack in some individual.

Good to heard that, i have a few colegue also grad from Manipal, Salem and Chennai. You going for twinning or 5 years there? Must be quite excited ya...
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post Sep 19 2014, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(PuRp13 @ Sep 18 2014, 12:13 PM)
Then I shall try to do scaling to see whether it helps to whiten my teeth or not haha.
Another 2 weeks more I m going to depart already. Mine is twinning. 2years India campus and 3 years in Melaka campus smile.gif
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All the best ya...Enjoy your stay in India

QUOTE(*-a|i3n-* @ Sep 18 2014, 01:15 PM)
Hi everybody here.......
i didn't go for any dentist before.. sweat.gif
few days ago.... my wisdom teeth is giving me headache,ache over night... cry.gif .
And...Now im sudah xle tahan the wisdom teeth...nak pigi cabut semua gigi yg x gune sekali gus...  mad.gif
Any fair price dentist for recommend nearby Cheras?...  vmad.gif

Hi dentist dentist sekalian....
Here's the picture of my GIGIs sekalian...  sweat.gif
wish can get a little advice kat sini before going for a dentist, x nak kena con..

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From the picture, your wisdom teeth is erupting. You either bear with the pain and let it grow , or you can choose to extract it. And the extraction is going to be a little bit complicated, so the dentist might have to charge you higher.
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post Sep 20 2014, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(PuRp13 @ Sep 19 2014, 11:06 PM)
Thanks! Any advices for me as a senior? Hehe
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Have fun in India, i been there for 2 years. Initially you will be reluctant to go, but it is a beautiful place. Go to Goa and Pondycherry, my favorite place thumbup.gif
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post Sep 20 2014, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(PuRp13 @ Sep 20 2014, 04:51 PM)
I have mixed feelings here. Feels nervous,excited,worried. Lol. Anyway, I hope I could enjoy my time in India  icon_rolleyes.gif . As I have heard that the first two years would be suffering haha.

Oh ya, may I know the opening hour of the gov dental clinic?
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Kedah/kelantan/terengganu is sunday to thursday 8 to 5, but thursday till 330
other state is 8 to 5, friday 1215 till 245 break
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post Sep 22 2014, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Sep 22 2014, 10:25 AM)
is it too late to put on braces at 22 years old?
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post Sep 23 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(SpeechLess11 @ Sep 22 2014, 10:33 PM)
Any dentist to recommend in setapak area for braces wearing?
Is there a difference for those who charge higher than the other? Cause i've asked for price quotation. They range from RM5,500 to RM7,500. Is the experience of doctor essential in brace fixing process? What would you suggest me to look into when i look for a place to fix my braces?  rolleyes.gif
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Sorry, im not familiar with Setapak. I think the one charge more expensive is specialist, and cheaper one is general dentist who have attended courses on braces. Is very hard to tell whether the doctor is good or not just by looking at his/her qualification paper. Even braces has many types, and we dont know which one they following. The best will be feedback from his previous patient
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post Sep 27 2014, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Xiny @ Sep 27 2014, 10:30 AM)
How about zirconia crown, not in the list though.  Is not the same wt ceramic crown, right?? I got quoted by one dental wt the price of 1500 for Zirconia crown. Hmm... wondering....

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Government didnt go crown. Zirconia is much stronger with ceramic, and the color is more natural. The price is usually 1k above.

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