I still don't understand why u discourage forummers to compare projects. Let it be negative or positive just take it with open heart. Since u are confident with ct and zalam , why not make this a place for discussion ? That's the use of open forum. Why need to pm here and there ?? Something fishy to hide ??

Omg! I'm just to avoid any argument again. I'm answering every comment politely yet u being to pushy.
Fishy? I can tel everything of Cloudtree, if someone interested, pls pm me (almost everyday I received message to ask my opinion on CT investment, so I will share all pros and cons)
Really speechless. Whatever cloudtree owner said what, someone will just against it. So no point to comment it here.
Perhaps good things always gain more attention.

Thanks for mention it again, opportunity for me to clarify this.
Ur opinion means believe what others said on dupe?
CT only appoint Chester as exclusive agent and only few are active. Joycelee, Zoey and chulk kor. Others are real owners.

Here cloudtree residence FB secret group. Currently 48 members (increasing), all real owners our neighbour added only, and mostly couple, married couple who bought it for ownstay.
No outsider allowed to join. Details verified by SA.
I did this as I saw many Prop FB groups are open to everyone (including wotp, vina), so it's better to have our own privacy.

To those owner just signed S&P, pls pm me your details =) we have all the details shared on FB group.

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Good that u understand. If u don't feel to contribute no one force u to post. No one against what u said here. It is you being personal when people comment about ct. If u not happy , no one force u to read in this thread. Or if u want only positive comments all the time, pls setup close forum exclusively for ct owners. Open forum is meant for sharing. And it is up to future buyer to filter what being share here.
Again, u are free to post any negative things about Wotp or Sdb. I dun give a damn, it's up to them to clarified. I'm not working for developer , it's not my duty to defend.

Same goes to zalam or ct. Everyone I'd freely to comment. Be it good or bad. If u not work for developer, there is not necessary for u being so defensive.

Sighs u stil don't get it.
It's okay, thanks for reminder high class Wotp neighbour.

LOL, it's funny.. So what's the cons of CT? Actually i only hear you highlight on the pros. Lets be logical.. Let's not give your opinion like from the developer salesman point of view..

No comments la bro.
That's why I said u guys never know CT, never read our thread .
Cons? Did I denied the abandoned shoplots? I've said the negative stuff ten times more than u guys in our own thread la bro. Go and read la stop blame at me.
Abandoned terrace houses, flooded, dead end road, small access with no traffic light, apartment infront CT, near to factories, high density (block E only), dibs cancelled, near HTC, etc I've mentioned in our Thread but most of them ady been solved by developer.

If wild wolf u wanna compare these projects to help on your investment choice, pls do ur study by studying all the threads like what I've been doing all this while before I buy a property.

Nways stop here and enjoy weekend!

Thumbs up I agree with you, Calvin on this..developers will never tell all the truths. This is where we share the facts good or bad..so we can make better decision as buyers.. Most pros developer will definitely highlight..and even worse..exaggerate..it's actually better to discuss on cons here..

I refer to ct thread.......not fb.....i explained my opinion of dupe.....after reading ct thread.....you need a rest......too serious......it is weekend....cheer.

This post has been edited by tmdsad: Sep 20 2014, 03:12 PM

That's why everytime got anyone mention any problem/issues that we don't know. Thanks to them and appreciated as I'll be the first one question Chulk kor on behalf of others. Sorry I'm being very particular on things one until zalam scared of me already. Haha.

This post has been edited by Kvsual: Sep 20 2014, 03:12 PM

No worries. Never have harse feeling. We just sharing okay?
Hmm I use mobile type kinda fast. So everytime wil write till long.. Thanks Nways.

Yes, never trust all what developers said. Their ultimate aim is to sell u the unit. It's up to u to do any homework. That's where forum like this will be useful. Again not all info are 100% accurate, we need to filter it and see what is make sense and applicable. Same goes to SA, they will not tell u all the truth. They can promised up to sky high, once u sign the spa, it's not their job to deliver as what they promise. In this context, we can't avoid this risk. But we can minimise it by choosing reputable developer.

So how does zalam help to solve abandoned terrace house, dead end road, small access with no traffic light , apartment in front ct , near to factories, high density block e, dibs cancelled , and near htc. Since u mention almost all solve by zalam, so at least 70-80% of this issues been solve. So what's the solution ?

Happy Weekend Ya All!

This post has been edited by Luprecal: Sep 20 2014, 04:59 PM

I personally chose CT over the rest based on the following

1. Low density/Privacy (4 units per floor, does not apply for Block E)

2. Sited on one of the highest ground in the area

3. Facilities (3 pools, central parks, over 200 CCTVs etc)

Disclaimer - I am vested so DYOR

CT 3 swimming pools is good. But will it become high Maintenance cost in future?

Example Mk seni over 600+ units only have 2 swimming pools and more than enough to serve the pipu there. N mk seni occupancy now also very high. At night can see many lights up. 2 swimming pool quite OK for them.

CT many land oledi scarified to build road for car jalan. No minimized use of land for car. Land size is big but many sudah become car jalan and open space parking place.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 20 2014, 10:30 PM

Lake vista location is superb. location Better than many others. Jalan out got 3 banks, super market. Lake view can jalan there. Continue wong shop lots. Mrt 1 distance about 2km+. Rumors mrt2 nearby. Just the problem developer is uda. And condo design n planing sibeh so so among all.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 20 2014, 09:26 PM

so how does zalam help to solve most of the problems u mentioned here? its good wat to share positive things on ct...

Abandoned terrace removed, dead end road made undead, dibs restored, HTC relocated. World is spinning again.

200 CCTV is good but not sure can tahan how many year ~