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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V7, Please Read Post# 1 & 2

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post Sep 6 2014, 04:15 PM

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Recent released weak July export number has suggested low possibility of rate hike in Sept BNM meeting.

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post Sep 11 2014, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 11 2014, 04:26 PM)
Of course SC offer of 15 mths 4.25% is still the best deal so far.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Yes, best deal so far that can come across.

But one thing I dislike SC, is that everytime make a new deposit also need to photocopy IC. doh.gif

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post Sep 17 2014, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Sep 17 2014, 04:36 PM)
15 months FD for SCB works out to be 5.31%
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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Sep 17 2014, 05:43 PM)
since it is 4.25 p.a so the remaining 3 months 4.25 divide by 12 x 3 equals 1.0626, add them all up is 5.31%
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Genius calculation... laugh.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Sep 17 2014, 11:55 PM)
ok guys actually CS also confirmed it is 5.31% for 15 months
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Ya, a total interest of 5.31% on your capital for 15 months. whistling.gif

Normally people quote interest rate based on PA.

May be next time someone can come out a better marketing gimmick, 7% for 24 months next time... whistling.gif


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post Sep 18 2014, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Sep 18 2014, 07:14 AM)
Thanks for the confirmation.

So for RM100k deposit @ 5.31%, one will get RM6,637.50 interest after 15 mths right ?  hmm.gif
But I'm still confused, why SCB advertised 4.25% leh ?  rclxub.gif  why don't SCB advertise the hidden 5.31% as you pointed out to attract more depositors ?
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You still don't get it? laugh.gif

4.25% pa

A total 5.31% interest payout after 15 months (pa missing)
A total 8.5% interest payout after 24 months (pa missing)

They are the same.

Learn new creative marketing.

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post Sep 23 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 23 2014, 11:54 AM)
This is what I read in some website regarding how the implementation of GST will affect the prices :
a) Current 6% Service Tax (on the F&B and professional services industry) abolished, 6% GST introduced - Pay the same price

b) Current 10% Sales Tax (on manufacturing and imports) abolished, 6% GST introduced - Pay less in price

c) Current SST Exempt items, 6% GST introduced - Pay more in price

We need to "avoid" scenario in ©, so need to make purchases before 1st April 2015...but I have no idea what are the items in that particular category yet biggrin.gif

So, in theory, prices for PC, TV, smartphone etc. should drop after the implementation of GST. Dunno can believe or not.
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b) 10% sales tax is based on manufacturer/producer/supplier price. While 6% GST is based on retail price.
So you don't automatically save 4% directly.

You can have a scenario,
Manufacturer sell 100
Retailer sell 200

Under sales tax, manufacturer sells to retailer at 100 x 10% = total price paid Rm110.
Retail mark up Rm90, sell at Rm200

With abolishment of Sales tax.
Manufacturer sell at 100 + 6%, retailer paid Rm106
Retailer still mark up Rm90 sell at RM190 x 6% = Rm201.40.

So pay less in price will depended on scenario.
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post Sep 25 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 25 2014, 11:35 AM)
So price increase is inevitable when GST is incurred...meaning that there is only one possible movement for the OPR...upwards smile.gif Correct boh?
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Not necessary.

With GST coming, there is potential one off spike in inflation, which may dampen the economy.
With Economy slow, the possibility of OPR hike is low.

GST on inflation is a one off effect.

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post Sep 25 2014, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(HJebat @ Sep 25 2014, 12:02 PM)
Your POV is that BNM will not raise the OPR pre-GST, but a possible hike post-GST? Probably to monitor consumers' stance & retailers' reaction towards GST?
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Yes, my view is BNM will see how the data of economy comes in before making next move.

After all previously 25 basis points hike effect, and various tightening measures has not yet fully shown in the data.
But business out there do sense a slowdown in activities in recent month.

Economy slowdown = little chance of rate hike.
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post Sep 30 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 29 2014, 10:52 PM)
Was at SCB today too. Only one customer in queue before me but just a single lengzhai to handle all FD matters today so took me about 50 mins. Had to photocopy my IC again despite me already having an account there. Asked if there is any free gift but none given. I will be happy if even if they give me a tupperware...but the sad thing is, the last week lenglui saw me but didn't smile at all.
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I do not understand why they need photocopy each time in placing FD, despite you already have existing account, and they already have all of your details. doh.gif

It is hassle, and make waiting time and q longer only.
Wait for 30~50 min to place a FD, very unproductive.

Even though they have one of highest rate around, I can't place with them due to time consuming and hassle.

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post Sep 30 2014, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Sep 30 2014, 12:27 PM)
These are the names for the recent ATM hack. Source Bernama.

The ATMs were located at Jalan Yong Shook Lin, Petaling Jaya (Affin Bank, losses of RM303,000); Dataran Sunway (Al-Rajhi Bank, RM285,700); Seksyen 14, Petaling Jaya (Bank Islam, RM395,850); Kota Damansara (Bank Islam, RM221,160) and Kelana Jaya (Al-Rajhi) where the full amount lost has yet to be ascertained.

Another Al-Rajhi Bank branch in Section 9, Shah Alam lost RM116,000 to a similar hacking.

Though the ATM hacking doesn't involved individual accounts, there were reports recently about money in individual account being transferred out electronically using a Trojan sent to the account holder's mobile phone and a copy of the TAC sms being forwarded to the hacker's phone.
It's best to avoid eFD or untag/unlink FD accounts in your internet banking account.
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Your mean Zeus issue?
It is combination of phishing and trojan.

Phishing - you land into fake online banking.
Trojan, TAC sent to your phone being sent to scammer.

They have both user/password through fake site
Then they have TAC to make transfer.

The ATM issue, doesn't relate to the above, as it "hack" the ATM machine, not account.

So both are not related to the online banking security issue.
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post Oct 1 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Oct 1 2014, 07:00 AM)
Anybody knows about this UOB promotion?

http://www1.uob.com.my/personal/promotions...ips_190914.html

Funds earmarked for 3 months but I just don't understand how it works. Is it a fixed deposit? Is there any interest besides the gifts?  hmm.gif
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It is not a fixed deposit.
Just need to deposit in saving/current account and earmarked for 3 months or in other word cannot withdraw the money for 3 months.

Yes, there still well be interest given that based on the board rate of the particular saving/current account you deposit.

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post Oct 1 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Oct 1 2014, 01:24 PM)
Thx. I guess it's not a good deal based on my calculation.

80k put in FD of 3 months with an interest of say 3%, will already net you RM600 in 3 months. Much more that the item being offered!  rclxub.gif

Of course, the account will give some interest but I think that would probably be peanuts.....
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It depends on the rate of the CASA then.

There is current/sav account that is giving 2.X~3%, so the deal may be seems good.
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post Oct 1 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Oct 1 2014, 03:37 PM)
I called up UOB and enquired. They said the savings and current account all very low interest... 0.2-0.3%. They even said " Can consider as no interest!" Lol!!
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e-account 2.78% for balance above 15k
Fun saver 3.05% for balance until 50k

While if AUM is significant, HYA is another option.
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post Oct 1 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Oct 1 2014, 04:16 PM)
Not too sure about e-account but they say fun saver not applicable for this promo. I did ask them on whether any account with high interest is under this promo.... they said nope.
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Just found out this promotion only limited to several account.
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The following current accounts or savings account are eligible accounts under this Promotion
(“Eligible CASA”):
 High Yield Account;
 i-Account; and
 Savings Plus Account
Last time similar promotion (earmark 3 months and gift given one, with cat/dog picture I don't know what they called laugh.gif ), they opened for all CASA unlike this time around.




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post Oct 13 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(august8 @ Oct 13 2014, 09:39 AM)
Just wondering what sifus here make of the recent hike in FD rates especially for the longer term deposits.  I always concede that the banks know more than me; that they are smarter, when I try to make my decisions haha...

1. 12 month FD rates seem to be hovering around the 4% mark now, this suggests that banks are expecting the OPR to be raised upwards in this time period.  Next OPR meeting is 6 Nov 2014, there's been some rumours that it may be raised this round to "manage" growth better and avoid overheating of the economy; after all, we are still growing by around 5.5-6% annually, the highest of SEA nations

2. the world's major economies are preparing to raise their interest rates to curb excessive risk taking

3. in spite of (1) above, BNM governor maintains that we still need a loose monetary policy with low interest rates.  I'm just wondering how much we are able to go it alone, especially when the world's major economies adjust their interest rates to manage their own economies better; after all, we are only a small fish in a very big pond

My thinking is that there will be a hike in OPR at the next meeting in less than a month's time, which would then result in another hike in FD rates (?).  What do the sifus think?  While I am very tempted by the 4% 12 month rates, the prospect of even higher rates before the end of the year is even more tempting!
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Even if there is a hike down the road, I don't think it will be more than 0.25% for the next 6 months or so.
With export data showing weakening, and business show sign of slowing down (may people out there do complain this in recent months), even the next hike may be put in doubt.

Also one of reason why banks are giving promo rate is because deposit grow slower than loan growth, hence banks need deposit to fund the loan given.
Just published in newspaper no long ago.
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...longterm-funds/


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post Oct 13 2014, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Oct 13 2014, 03:58 PM)
You will also be assigned an RM to assist you with your banking transactions.
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Got RM or not sometimes make no difference one.
Instead offering better service and advice, they may only care to sell insurance or investment product.

RM just a nice name as compared to Public Relation Officer. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2014, 08:25 PM)
But for each cert they printed the  account is different (affin, scb) except HLB. HLB all same no. (eg 123456789) So no, I dont have new account no with HLB.

My question is can I ask affin and scb to do the same like HLB? Print same account no on my next fd?
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No, it all depends on the bank system.

Some bank work on account basic while some do not, aka they work in the form of every new deposit is given a new number.

They treat every new FD is a new "account".
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post Oct 14 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 14 2014, 09:08 PM)
Cause my parents making will. And they do not want to pay lawyer anymore if place new fd (you need to pay lawyer to update the will)

So if they put new fd in say scb, scb will give them new cert with new account no. So if they update the will with the new fd, they need to pay lawyer.

That is why they want to know if they can get all same account no from the same bank. That way, no need to pay lawyer.
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Don't need to specific every account number or FD cert in will.

Just state in will like all money in ABC bank FD account with joint name with X goes to x person.

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 14 2014, 09:44 PM)
Aiyah, if that is the case, solution so easy, ask your parent to only place new FDs at banks that have same account number only (e.g. ABB, UOB and HLB).

Anyway, the lawyer should be able to advise your parents and draft the will accordingly to your parents instructions.
Yah, join account easiest but better not inform bank the other KO dy. Quietly and immediately go uplift. Only set back of anyone can sign is that any of the signatory can also quietly go uplift the FD without the other party prior knowledge especially for Statement Based Accounts.
But it still save you the hassle to find parking spot  tongue.gif
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Statement based is actually better than cert.

Statement
- your joint name party quietly withdraw the money, next month knew already when statement comes. While there is one bank does send letter to inform particular FD has been uplifted once the uplifting is made. So cannot "quietly" withdraw.

Cert
- no statement, forever don't know your joint party has withdraw the money if you don't hold on the cert.
Even you have the cert, the joint party can report it as a loss, and replace with another and withdraw, and your old cert is invalid, and forever think you still have the money with a invalid cert. laugh.gif

Also, with cert, when old time, may forget where it placed already, and may forget how many cert has been placed.
Statement, everything clear in a page.
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post Oct 16 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(kimmo88 @ Oct 16 2014, 03:34 PM)
i just opened UOB FD 4.05% 12mths. They just issued me 'TIME/FIXED DEPOSIT ADVICE' statement. Is it neccesary to request for FD cert? I immediately check UOB online banking and my FD accounts are already there.

Is this safe enough? What is the purpose of having FD certs?
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Some banks do not practice FD cert, but statement based.

FD cert or statement based is just the way how bank adopted in the system.



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