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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V7, Please Read Post# 1 & 2

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post Oct 17 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(kimmo88 @ Oct 16 2014, 05:37 PM)
It seems there is an option to 'withdraw' your FD using UOB online banking. No need to walk-in to branch. Convenient but may not be safe if your account gets hacked !
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As far as I knew, you only can withdraw online if the FD is placed via online in the first place.

You can't withdraw online if the FD is placed over the counter.

Also online transaction limit to third party (GIRO) is set at Rm10k/20K limit by default.
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post Oct 17 2014, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(robert82 @ Oct 17 2014, 03:51 PM)
I scattered my FD to multiple small FD, ie:

1,000 for 1 month
1,000 for 3 months
3,000 for 6 months

For the purpose of ease of withdrawing during emergency.
It has now grown to extent it is all over the place.
Would you guys take it out and move it to another for the hassle or let it be?

Ie, if a bank offers better rate, when the rate expired, did you guys take out the fund and move to another bank?

I find it a little too troublesome lol
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Only do it at your convenience.

Purposely drive there to do it, will incur most cost in term of petrol, parking fee, toll fee etc.

Eg. 3k, A bank with 3.15%, B bank 3.7%.
Extra rate can be earned 0.55% x 3K = RM16.50 after a year.

So purposely drive there and spend time and incur those fee above easily can cost more than Rm10.00, which is not worthwhile.
But if already want to do other stuff together with it aka at your convenience, then seems no harm done.
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post Oct 17 2014, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 17 2014, 04:16 PM)
Correct me if i am wrong. IBG to UOB SA and then transfer to FD is not considered as a fresh fund, right?
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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 17 2014, 04:38 PM)
Technically its not considered as fresh fund. Though some banks sometimes closed one eye.
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Some bank do consider it as fresh fund, as long as the money is not originated from the same bank in the first place subjected to their "approval" I guess.

Eg. you IBG from bank A to bank B 10k on 16/10, then withdraw at 17/10 to place FD at bank B.

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post Oct 22 2014, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 22 2014, 06:05 PM)
Yeah, playing DCI got thrill unlike FD  laugh.gif
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DCI no thrill nowadays with single digit rate only.

Last time got 20~30% rate, then really thrill. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 23 2014, 10:08 PM

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Enquiry the HLB staff about 3.95% for 12 months, the staff told has no such offer, only 15 months 4%.

But forumers here did post up about it.



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post Oct 23 2014, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Oct 23 2014, 10:11 PM)
Ask another staff. Even their customer service line saying no such offer, called the second time, another personnel said yes.
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I think the company need serious "updating" their staff.
Not the first time encountered such issue aka staff do not know their company current promotion.
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post Oct 23 2014, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Oct 23 2014, 10:23 PM)
Next time if call to the branch, it is better to ask for the person who in charge of the FD in the branch.
Call to customer help-line usually will not get correct answer, especially RHB, because they are not in the
front-line.
But except OCBC help-line, usually OCBC can provide update FD info.

The best way is to call to the branch but not the customer help-line.
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The enquiry was made in a branch with a person in charge of FD. sweat.gif
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post Oct 27 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 26 2014, 08:56 PM)
However, if the robber acquires sophisticated tactic to change the name on the cheque ... whistling.gif
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It happened once in our company cheque (send to supplier through mail), payee name was altered to another name, using don't know what kind of eraser method.

Luckily the bank spotted alteration suspicious and calling to verify, that prevent the fraud case.

Since then our company never mail any cheque.



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post Oct 27 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 27 2014, 03:09 PM)
Thanks for the info. I placed FD in PBB just 26 days ago for the promo with eff rate of 3.88%. Was feeling bad when I saw the promo this morning. At least the later 6 mths still get the 4.28%.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Ya, PBB really generous.  thumbup.gif  They are now really going all out to get deposits. Before the recent promo, their promo has not been good and I have stayed away from them for quite a few years.  rclxms.gif

Our friendly Good Guy Magician is lucky. This promo is slightly better than UOB's 12 mth 4.05% (eff rate 4.055%). So his bullets will have its full firing power. Even BR has increased the rate to 4.1% when his FD is maturing there. While I have been withdrawing from BR for last few months. Ha ha ha.  But for new maturing one, will still keep some in BR for the 4.1% rate and monthly interest.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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There is another advantage of 6 + 6 months rollover as 1 year FD (compared to straight 1 year FD), ie. you can withdraw when the 6 months maturity due, and decided not to rollover (if there is better rate after 6 months time), get the 3.83%, then withdraw, and opt to use the fund for other FD or other purpose.

While in 1 year straight FD, you need to wait until maturity to withdraw and get the interest.
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post Nov 14 2014, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 13 2014, 07:56 PM)
That we also heard but need confirmation from those using it before. Google it but there is just cutoff time for same day transfer.
Maybe previously IBG (giro) needs longer time frame but now IBG is also same day transfer with respect to cutoff times. So wonder whether it is still relevant for normal customers.

Maybe our bro cherroy can shed some light.  notworthy.gif
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Yes, there is cut off before about noon time to enable Rentas to credit in the same time based on experience.

But now, IBG if done early in the morning, late afternoon already credit into the account already.

Just IBG has max limit of 10~20K generally, so if bigger amount still has to do with Rentas. Correct me if I am wrong or slow in update the info.
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post Nov 17 2014, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(HJebat @ Nov 16 2014, 09:30 PM)
These days FD promotion rates are getting higher. Maybe financial institutions are expecting BNM to raise the OPR in the not-too-distant future. Looking forward to seeing more >4%p.a. without CASA requirement.
December is approaching…are you still going ahead with your plan to lock your $$$ in MBSB?
Aiya, about BR’s internet banking…really  vmad.gif

I know that the online account is very convenient to check account balance, check monthly interest credited & to transfer fund.

I’ve tried to apply for a joint account Coop card to register for BR’s internet account…but some doh.gif staff repeatedly said can’t be done.
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Actually the OPR going forward is not that "hawkish" after a stable inflation rate reported, as well as GDP has showed sign of slowing down to 5.6% from 6%.
Also household debt raising has showed sign of slowing down significantly after many measures adopted.

It is far from conclusion that OPR is going to be raised, as I believe BNM now is very much data depended on the next decision.

One of reason that many promotion going on is because of deposit growth is much slower than loan growth.

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...unds/?style=biz
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Malaysian banks race to get deposits

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post Nov 21 2014, 03:00 PM

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With the latest CPI number at 2.8% which is below most analysts expectation of around 3%, the chance of OPR hike until GST being implemented now become remote.
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post Dec 1 2014, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Dec 1 2014, 07:45 PM)
heard on bfm this morning Saudi gonna tekan prices until it reach shale oil's breakeven level of around 45usd  cry.gif and Petronas has already told the govt to "ikat perut" because of soft crude prices (haha they say govt's karma cos it told people to tighten belt)

curious & dun hv solid econs knowledge - why u say FD interest sure going up? I know 97 levels were about 7-8% - can go there or not?
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With current situation unfold in oil market, there is almost no chance for OPR to be raised for near term.

Prior before 97 crisis, FD rate was always around 5~7%, but since then after the crisis, economy situation changed, FD rate no longer more than 4% range.

You only have high FD rate if
1. Economy grow is red hot (just like prior 97), whereby deposit is highly sort after to fund the loan (loan growth will be robust if economy grow at red hot pace)

2. Massive currency outflow, whereby you need high FD rate to attract fund. (happened during 97 crisis, whereby FD rate cross 10% at the height of crisis)
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Dec 2 2014, 12:34 AM)
Wah ! nice link bro.  rclxms.gif  no wonder I have this gut feeling of FD interest rate is going upward. The FD rate in the 1998 currency crisis was all time high since coop crisis in the 80s. Then Tun M pegged the ringgit at 3.80 in Sep 1998 and subsequently the FD rate was dropped to 4.x%.
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History doesn't dictate how future will be.

Economy situation evolved from time to time, and current condition is way different from 98.

During 98, Malaysia was battling money outflow with low foreign currency reserves, but now BNM has >120 bil USD foreign currency reserves.
When you have low foreign currency reserves and money outflow is rampant, it forced central bank to raise rate to retain the money.

With worldwide low rate across the globe, Malaysia alone cannot raise rate too much, as it could attract unnecessary hot money (which eventually prop up the RM exchange rate) as well as hurting the economy growth.
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post Dec 2 2014, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Dec 2 2014, 01:19 PM)
In order to mitigate low oil prices in their economy, most oil producing countries are letting their currency slide down. This will give the notion of balancing their domestic budget. To me its nonsense, as its akin to printing more money. FD depositor now not only have to contend with inflation but also loss of RM devaluation. Buying properties now makes more sense to safeguard our funds.
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When oil price sliding, means oil export countries receive less USD, less money inflow, currency slide down, make perfect sense, even without any intervention.

Current, inflation is largely due to subsidies cut, not commodities.

In business or specifically manufacturing, lot of raw material price is actually sliding down, besi buruk price also go down 10 cents recently as far as I knew. tongue.gif

Just subsidies cut, wages increase (due to min wages), shortage in labour force, that result in higher cost for production, transportation, that resulted in higher price of goods.
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post Dec 12 2014, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Dec 12 2014, 01:02 PM)
Anybody received this promo SMS from UOB:
Got details?
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Last week there were people already posted. Not something new.

50K min, new fund. 4.2% 12 months.
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post Dec 13 2014, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Dec 13 2014, 12:16 PM)
Just came back and checked (online and calling CS) latest FD promos with the banks.

I just updated my Fixed Deposit Page. Alliance Bank now offering 4.1% 12 months for their FD Gold, which is lower than in November 2014 and instead increased their 9 months FD promo to 4.15%.

Noted more banks are offering higher interest rates for FD Promo for less than 1 year tenure. Maybe this is because of the uncertainty we may face in 2015 in view that oil price has dropped tremendously in the last few months and this will have direct impact on many countries including Malaysia as we are dependent on oil. 

I am wondering if I should go lock in 4.15% with HLB Juinor FD for the next 2 years or go with UOB Christmas Promo until 24 Dec 2014 4.2% 12 months, minimum fresh fund RM50K. But then again, with our Ringgit depreciating, I may end up with less purchasing power in 2 years time. And what if the stock market dive further, another lost in opportunity, decisions, decisions...... giving me a headache.
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One of reason may because banks see OPR is not trending higher, so no point to offer long term high rate.


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post Dec 15 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 14 2014, 12:26 PM)
Guys, what will happen to our PIDM protected FD if the country bankrupts?
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QUOTE(okuribito @ Dec 14 2014, 01:23 PM)
if country bankrupt? I think everybody koyak except those with net assets parked in non-bankrupt countries smile.gif even those rich net asset in RM will see their wealth/asset/purchasing power fall like brick  cry.gif  rclxub.gif

can provide link to any report discussing this possibility?
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Country cannot go bankrupt one.
Country may default their bond, but will never "close shop".

We have Asian 97 crisis, PIGS crisis, Iceland bank default, Lehman 2008 financial crisis to know what happened when country or bank financial situation become mess time.
The countries are still there.
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post Dec 15 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 15 2014, 01:49 AM)
I know this is off topic. How do I move my money out of the country? Say to Australia. I would like to know for future purpose. I am talking about quite a big sum.
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There are foreign currency account which available in local banks, whereby you can deposit AUD FD, if want to diversify outside RM.

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QUOTE(gchowyh @ Dec 22 2014, 03:53 PM)
Let us hope it does not get that bad, else is even harder to play musical chair!
Btw, why i asked if the article is for real is in my opinion, the pressure to increase the interest rate is still higher due to:
1. GST next year pushes up inflation
2. Petrol price is going down but CPI is still high especially due to the surprise increase in diesel which many businesses rely on
3. Even at the end of the day, many businesses are reluctant to reduce prices as many would say, prices only go up but rarely go down.
4. Banks are still attracting more deposits since it is at almost an all time low
5. Outflow of funds from the country
6. Depreciation of ringgit also pushes up inflation.

I also believe that piece of news is a tactic to encourage the nation to temporarily spend more..
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1. GST inflation factor is one off, BNM won't act on one off event, as the raising rate effort is useless to cope the inflation by one off event.

2. Price increases has a lot to do with subsidies cut/abolished, again this is one off event, raising interest rate won't curb this kind of inflation.

So this 2 factor won't be the sole/main consideration when BNM deciding on rate.
Raising interest rate will only curb inflation, if the inflation is demand pull factor.
Cost higher due to 1&2 is a push factor, which even you raise interest rate to 10%, the price still need/will go up.

The pressure of rate hike is not that great at the moment, if
a. Household debt is not raising further.
b. Inflation is not running wild away due to high demand by consumer.
c. RM is not depreciated too greatly, in fact RM appreciated against AUD, NZD, Yen.
d. Foreign currency reserves is not depleting rapidly,due to current account deficit (now still surplus)


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