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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V7, Please Read Post# 1 & 2

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post Nov 16 2014, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(magika @ Nov 15 2014, 09:02 PM)
Can know the source ? I am depositing max every year , however dont mind 60 years as no intention of withdrawal. Treating it as my safe passive income for retirement. Imagine there will be huge exodus if it is approve, and can kwsp withstand such a withdrawal.
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http://news.sinchew.com.my/node/396476?tid=1
Huge exodus ? Don't think so. No one can sukak sukak exit. Once you are in, there is no way out until age 55 or maybe 60, except some very rigid and limited conditional withdrawals.

QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Nov 15 2014, 11:16 PM)
i don't really have concern on this...but if they implement another law to limit how much you can take out per year after 60...then i'm gonna be pissed...
if i remember, they did propose something like this...and reason given was the people dunno how to control their expense and finish up the money as soon as they get it...

well...it's my money...you don't control how much i can withdraw....
prrrfffff
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Well, in general, the additional 5 years tight up is not favouring the contributors.
Currently, you have the flexibility of withdrawing or leaving the money in EPF at age 55. But if gov extend it to 60 year-old, you lose the flexibility to withdraw at age 55.
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post Nov 16 2014, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Nov 16 2014, 12:23 AM)
Hi not about PIDM but regarding joint FD account. If a person has a joint FD account with say, mum, with either one to sign. Let say if one of them passed away, can the other withdraw the FD before maturity?
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Un officially, yes, the other joint account holder can quickly withdraw as long as the bank is not awear of the death.
Officially, the assets will be frozen. Only the appointed administor in the LA can administer the FD. The joint account holder may not be the same person as the administrator.

Then again, if the rightful beneficiary of the assets is a 3rd party, then he/she might want to sue the joint account holder for unlawful withdrawal. Of course the joint account holder also can file a claim for his/her share in the FD.

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post Nov 18 2014, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Nov 18 2014, 09:52 PM)
Any idea of the 'fresh fund' definition for ocbc? I read the gold coin t&c, fresh fund inclusive of existing funds (eg CASA) transferred not more than 3 days.

If true, tempted to enrol this coming Friday, I can ibg the fund tomorrow and hopefully eligible to get this FD and one of the first 200 depositors smile.gif
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I clicked the ringgit plus link and was prompted to key in very personal details over the net, I terus cabut. sweat.gif
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post Nov 19 2014, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Nov 19 2014, 01:18 PM)
I wonder if the 1st 200 is nationwide or per branch

Edit : not worldwide but nationwide
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Highly unlikely to be per branch. If indeed per branch, Ringgit Plus will boast 8200 units Medklin up for grabs in it's ad.
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post Nov 19 2014, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Nov 19 2014, 06:18 PM)
You mean need to provide income info on Ringgit Plus sign-up form..?
I think nobody will provide the accurate income info as this question is too sensitive.
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I'm ok with income disclosure because it is not an important personal info. I can also simply put any figure.
The problem is the site asked for full name, IC no, Hp no, full address, bal bla bla...
I prefer not to disclose it over the net coz I'm not sure my mobile device is clean from spyware or key logger. Further more ringgit plus is just a blog.
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post Nov 20 2014, 03:26 PM

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RM0.00 HSBC: Find out more about new HSBC Advance &our 5%p.a. interest rate on 3-mth Time Deposit offer. T&C@ www.hsbcadvance.com.my /visit your nearest branch

Just received above sms.
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post Nov 20 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Nov 20 2014, 04:12 PM)
I think the case is due to auto renewal. For the initial depositing, BR system will adjust to next working day for maturity. But after that, on auto renew, it will just go to exactly 1 year later (for yearly renewal). I kena once but as I just asked for new FD cert, so no loss (mature on Sat).  smile.gif
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Must avoid 3 months FD placement today and tomorrow.
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post Nov 23 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Nov 23 2014, 02:01 PM)
Yes , confirmed EPF paid us short.
Login to  KWSP i akaun, check your dividends.

EPF pays dividend only from the last day of the month, despite it states
caruman must be paid before the 15th every month.

Every month caruman is paid around 10th to 12th,but KWSP is not paying dividends for another 14 - 15 days till the end of that month.

1 month makan 14days, 1 year makan you 168days at least.

For year 2013 i lost 175 days' interest.

Just wonder...if employer were to pay early ie on the month before it,
how would the dividend be calculated...

Normally is like this:
Caruman Januari 2014 due 15.1.2014 --> usually paid around 10.1.2014
EPW starts paying dividend for that caruman only from 30.1.2014

Now if employer were to pay  Caruman Januari 2014 early, say on 26.12.2013, would EPF starts paying dividend for that from 30.12.2013??

For voluntary self contrib, sure must do it at month end next time, if you dont want to be makan.
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I suppose the computer system will pay interest accordingly from 30.12.2013. But the employer will also rugi 14-15 days every month by advancing the employee's EPF contribution earlier as suggested. So the situation is either EPF makan 14 - 15 days interest or employer rugi 14 - 15 days interest.

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post Nov 29 2014, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(practcmksperfct1 @ Nov 29 2014, 07:22 PM)
Hi all,

Could someone help explain why Affin 4.38% 24 months is the best FD rate in the market now, when OCBC can give 4.5%?

Let's talk based on the scenario where a person has RM10K - RM20K and doesn't plan to take out for a few years.

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OCBC
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Quite confused now. Or did I understand the OCBC incorrectly?
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For few years? Go for Affin 4.38%. True interest rate.
OCBC 4.5% is a fake interest rate. Intentionally advertised the best rate to confuse ppl who are not savvy in banking deposit and don't understand the small prints.
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post Dec 1 2014, 06:23 PM

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Worst ever 2-day ringgit slump since 1997 financial crisis... KLSE lost 40+ points today....money leaving Malaysia....lower price for petronas export....
bbgoat, you happy liao, FD interest sure going up.

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post Dec 2 2014, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(okuribito @ Dec 1 2014, 11:07 PM)
magika sure or not? can see blood on the streets already meh? wait a bit lah... ready aim fire! hehehe the stepups i mentioned over the weekend might just come in handy if things start to boil

Regarding rates, thanks for your insight cherroy. Can you have a look at these historical stats & comment pls?

Average FD rates since 1980

BNM stats - interbank rates since 1997

end-1998/1999 was a bummer - BNM must have intervened to lower rates???
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Wah ! nice link bro. rclxms.gif no wonder I have this gut feeling of FD interest rate is going upward. The FD rate in the 1998 currency crisis was all time high since coop crisis in the 80s. Then Tun M pegged the ringgit at 3.80 in Sep 1998 and subsequently the FD rate was dropped to 4.x%.
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post Dec 2 2014, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 1 2014, 07:44 PM)
So..is it better to place FD in short term? Like 6 months or 9 months..?  hmm.gif 

I think RHB 4.15% for 9 months is the best option, but unfortunately it will end on this Friday.. sad.gif
Very headache..  doh.gif
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Bro, i can't predict the future but I learned from the history. I remembered very well that during the ringgit crisis in 1998, the FD rate was damn high. I was torn between FD and stock market then.
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post Dec 4 2014, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 3 2014, 09:53 PM)
I recalled I did recommend this AM Top Rate Quantum and I got back what I have posted before.

My memory served me well and what I remembered was correct.

Besides confirming with the branch manager while I was depositing, and then some forumers got different answer by they will charge back the interest paid, I called to AmBank Online Call center to check and double confirm, as written above.

However, the manager part is the solid proof even I met the manager. For AmBank Online, I am not sure if they have record for all calls made.
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Judging from your old postings, these are my view points.

The no penalty premature withdrawal promo may be true but it was valid on the first 48mth FD tenure you contracted within the offer period in 2009
Upon renewal in Dec 2013, it is the standard banking practice to renewal FD at board rate with the prevailing TnC because the no penalty premature withdrawal promotion has ended since 2010 as confirmed in your post dated March 9 11:43am.
So your FD auto renewal in Dec 2013 was based on standard FD TnC ( without the no penalty withdrawal promo).

Anyway, please update us the outcome.



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post Dec 4 2014, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Dec 4 2014, 08:34 AM)
i'm curious y they allow to use personal chq.. is it ur FD will be effective placement date upon cheque clearance ?
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FD placement will take effect on the date of chq presentation before 4.30pm. Not on the the date of chq clearance since your account will be debited on the date of chq presentation as well.

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post Dec 6 2014, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(BartS @ Dec 5 2014, 06:53 PM)
Was at UOB today. New rates. 4.00% for 6 months. 4.20% for 12 months.
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Excellent info sharing. Thanks !

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Dec 6 2014, 12:53 AM)
Warrior..it seems the FD rates are keep going-up lately...
So, I think I will put on hold not to place with MBSB 5 years..
Most likely I will go for UOB 1 year at 4.2% first..
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Indeed the FD rate is on up trend. I guess some banks has Loan to Deposit ratio or other deposit targets to achieve by 31st December.

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post Dec 6 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Dec 6 2014, 07:23 AM)
FYI BoomChaCha

Mach Fixed Deposit Money Box Campaign
6 December 2014 and ends on 28 February 2015, both dates inclusive

6-month @ 3.80% pa | 12-month @ 4.00% pa

T&Cs (En) | T&Cs (BM)

p/s: Ignore the website image with 3.85% rate.  laugh.gif
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Excellent sharing, Bro.

Boom, if you don't mind slightly lower effective rate 4.07% (including monthly compound interest) but interest paid monthly, this can be a good alternative too.
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post Dec 9 2014, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Dec 9 2014, 12:19 AM)
Now I have to decide RHB 9 months or UOB 4.2% for 12 months...RM25 difference for a year for 50k FD. 9 months will be RM18.75 less for RHB FD after 9 months.

If when RHB FD mature after 9 montgs and there is a FD rate of 4.35% for 3 months then only I will get RM18.75 back or equivalent to UOB 4.2% for 12 months. In short it is better go for UOB 12 months now provided no higher offer after this.
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I have a different view on this and my choice would be RHB 9mths.
After factor in the compound interest for the next 3 months from 9th to 12th. The effective rate is 4.182. Very close to UOB 12 mths 4.20% already. Therefore for Rm50k deposit it's RM6.75 lesser interest over 9 mths period but i get the advantage of earlier maturity. Upon maturity at 9th month, I don't think can get 3 mths 4.35% but one still can renew 9 mths or 12 months for higher rates. ( assuming prevailing FD rates remain the same)



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QUOTE(ccschua @ Dec 9 2014, 08:19 PM)
i m so confused.

I dont know which one to choose.

all i know my housing loan is 4.9%.
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Didn't you realize that you just gave yourself a clear answer to your confusion ?

No need to bother about FD, just dump all your money to your housing loan account and earn or rather, save 4.90%. Btw, make sure your housing loan is flexi loan before you dump in money.


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QUOTE(ccschua @ Dec 10 2014, 01:55 PM)
if the housing loan no flexi, after dump money no more refinancing?
can we dump money into EPF ?
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Make sure you can take out the money from your loan account when you needed it before dumping all your money into your loan account to save the 4.9% interest.
As for EPF, better after all your children graduated then only consider because this option is one way street till 55 years old or may be 60 year-old ( if gov change it)
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QUOTE(renee78 @ Dec 10 2014, 03:10 PM)
it's a bit irritating that fresh fund rates are sooo much higher than other rates

thinking of doing this:
1) I have an existing 10k fixed deposit at bank 1 (1 month tenure)
2) place 10k fresh funds at bank 1 and get higher rate for new fixed deposit (6 months tenure)
3) a bit later uplift my existing fixed deposit at bank 1 and move it to another bank 2 to get higher rate there

will this work?
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Yes, it will work.

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