QUOTE(bbgoat @ Oct 16 2014, 03:37 PM)
UOB do not need FD cert to uplift. I normally do not check if what they issued is a cert or not. So no worry. The online check is suffice, that is what I normally do as well.

They will also issue you with statement every 3 mths or so.

Bro, Statement Based Accounts do not issue any cert for FD but they do give you a piece of useless paper for your records when you place a FD.
How come you only get Statements from UOB every 3 months? I get them every month!
QUOTE(kimmo88 @ Oct 16 2014, 03:34 PM)
i just opened UOB FD 4.05% 12mths. They just issued me 'TIME/FIXED DEPOSIT ADVICE' statement. Is it neccesary to request for FD cert? I immediately check UOB online banking and my FD accounts are already there.
Is this safe enough? What is the purpose of having FD certs?
Firstly, UOB and OCBC do not issue any certs for FD because they are Statement Based. The paper that is issued to you when you place your FD is only to notify you that UOB did indeed receive a FD placement and apart from this, it is useless.
Whenever I want to place or withdraw FD from UOB, I don't need to bring any documents. All I need to do is give them my NRIC and their system will show all my FDs account info, and from there I can tell them what I want to do with each account.
As for the second question safe or not, well, if you had read the last few pages of this thread you would have got some idea.
If your FD is in your name only, then it is very safe as only you can go uplift/withdraw the FD. Nowadays most banks will need our NRIC and our thumb print for any type of withdrawals. However, if joint account and anyone can sign, then there is always a risk that any of the signatories can go uplift withdraw the FD without prior knowledge of the other party.
I did mention earlier that Statement Based FD is not secured for joint accounts (where anyone can sign) as anyone can go withdraw/uplift the FD anytime without prior knowledge of the other party. And by the time the other party finds out, it be to late and they can do nothing.
Below are posts you would have read if you had taken the time to read them.
QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 14 2014, 10:50 PM)
Yes, for Statement Based by next month will know if other party made any withdrawal. But like I said - without
prior knowledge and only need to bring NRIC. By the time the other party receive the statement too late.
As for the cert, yeah, can always report as lost and get a new one but need to do some work (hassle) and may be illegal (false report). And the other party only finds out when he goes to the bank when FD matures. But then the party holding the cert can build a case against the other party; for statement base nothing can be done.
I hate the Statement Base Accounts, every month I get stack of papers. Previously, UOB PB will sent me a summary of all my accounts in a single letter. Now, I get more than 10 different statements (even if the a particular FD account got RM0, and they will also sent a letter if any FD is uplifted to be renewed at promo rate). Add that to my OCBC statements (DCI RM0 also get statement) plus my other bank current account statements, I have to waste a lot of time opening the letters plus filing them up.
And you guys know lah I have many credit cards. So many statements to read for a half blind man is a torture you know.
QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Oct 15 2014, 08:46 PM)
If want to report the FD cert is lost, the bank has to get verification and confirmation from all joint names of FD
depositors listed on the FD cert. One party cannot make a valid report that the FD cert is lost (unless it is single name).
For example, If Ah Goat, Uncle Magic and I have a joint name FD cert, and Ah Goat holds the FD cert.
Now, if Uncle Magic has a bad intention and he wants to withdraw all the money and run away to Caribbean Islands
by cheating to the bank that the cert is lost, then the bank will need to get confirmation from Ah Goat and me that
the cert is actually lost.
QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Oct 16 2014, 09:43 AM)
Once bank confirms that the FD cert is lost, then bank will request FD depositors to make a "sumpah"
so that bank can use "sumpah" to void the lost FD cert and re-issue another new FD cert.
Can, joint account can have 3 names.
If I am not mistaken, can have up to 4 names.
QUOTE(Nauts @ Oct 16 2014, 11:42 AM)
Most banks require you to sign letter of indemnity if lost the cert or withdraw without cert.
Last time harder, need make police report also. Probably last time not so computerized.
So, in conclusion, do not sign up for joint account where anyone can sign if you don't trust him/her or not willing to to "give" him/her the money sooner than planned.
This post has been edited by Gen-X: Oct 16 2014, 04:29 PM