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 Built & sell is here, Goodview heights @ south sg Long

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post Sep 7 2014, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 10:41 AM)
from the start till end we just merely introducing what Sin heap lee is BTS , this jokers is trying to be funny in many ways... cloud is actually very tension..

i ask him to backtrack his comments.. looks like it the same..

well enough, I will see this BTS... suppossingly not yet finish sapu lu.. since i still stand a change to see.. hmm
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They just trying their luck riding on the name of BTS to lure buyers but in fact what they are doing is actually STB.
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post Sep 7 2014, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 7 2014, 10:44 AM)
They just trying their luck riding on the name of BTS to lure buyers but in fact what they are doing is actually STB.
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let me see how many units are left... flippers don't go here.. especially low holding powers one.. with that nice price tag... even can have capital appreciation also risky.. most of flippers are with a burden with them now... those 400k, 500k invstment on hands maybe few units..

serious buyers with DP and credit anytime can buy.. and it is 2015.. completion..

this [project is so near to Palm walk 3 which will kill them off... Palm walk 3 selling 750k, subsales... new project selling starting 723k.. 2015 completion.. larger size... 3 layer security..

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post Sep 7 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 10:32 AM)
i never see admin also can troll... I didnt say it Sin heap lee says it...

enough of all this BS.. i am going to see this project.. one ting for sure Semenyih project sure bungkus
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Bro BBW, is this a BBB project?
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Sep 7 2014, 10:56 AM)
Bro BBW, is this a BBB project?
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honestly, i am not good in investment.. this launch is selling 723k.. well EM selling 600k plus.. own stay version are more possible.. flip maybe another 5 years to 10 years fetch 1 million maybe...

SEH owners... better mark your sub sales price below the mark 750k, confirm no market if t\you try to be funny selling more than that..

sumore 20X65, here 22x75 & 22 x80...
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Sep 7 2014, 12:30 AM)
Like that can walk to klcc lor.....save petrol n parking too
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That's why I said no money then need tolerate with the toll, jam and petrol loh... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 11:01 AM)
honestly, i am not good in investment.. this launch is selling 723k.. well EM selling 600k plus.. own stay version are more possible.. flip maybe another 5 years to 10 years fetch 1 million maybe...

SEH owners... better mark your sub sales price below the mark 750k, confirm no market if t\you try to be funny selling more than that..

sumore 20X65, here 22x75 & 22 x80...
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Lol... later here 723k sold out how? laugh.gif laugh.gif less than 200 acres woh, how many houses will be built? brows.gif brows.gif

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post Sep 7 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 10:32 AM)
i never see admin also can troll... I didnt say it Sin heap lee says it...

enough of all this BS.. i am going to see this project.. one ting for sure Semenyih project sure bungkus
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Lol... you always say semenyih project bungkus, but Pelangi Semenyih 1 and Semenyih 2 has more 80% occupancy rate... perception vs fact, why so?

Is it you also adopting the technique condamn gao gao about Semenyih property then senyap senyap buy a service apartment here, as like that big SKL? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 11:01 AM)
honestly, i am not good in investment.. this launch is selling 723k.. well EM selling 600k plus.. own stay version are more possible.. flip maybe another 5 years to 10 years fetch 1 million maybe...

SEH owners... better mark your sub sales price below the mark 750k, confirm no market if t\you try to be funny selling more than that..

sumore 20X65, here 22x75 & 22 x80...
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I believe in every project there will be a mix of stayers and flippers. For those flippers, wish them luck lor.

For SEH project, though land size is smaller but the price be it on psf basis or per unit basis is cheaper leh. So, don't need to hentam other project lar unless it's really so lousy.
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QUOTE(CloudAtla$ @ Sep 7 2014, 09:20 AM)
Where BTS? Where? Show me one BTS project.
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The most obvious which comes to mind would be Bandar Utama Developement lor...9 bukit utama
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:55 AM

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BTS concept is developer won't open for sale any single unit until the project 100% completed, then only advertise for sale, just like see hoy chan did during old days.
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post Sep 7 2014, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 05:57 AM)
developers research package everything= 403k
flippers upon vp = trying to sell 750k above, is this included in their market research?

likewise with BTS, in 2014 they start building, 3 months before vp i.e by 2016 can sell 750k?

if that is so, BTS will favor developers and flippers more.. developers get to sell at higher price, they can flip it themselves... why wanna let flippers profit the 300k without doing anything? they bare the bigger risk like completing, constructing the unit..

of course the game is not like that, new launches now days also cant finish selling.. even with freebies discounts and etc..
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Lol, BBW seems like do know about the importance of cash flow. If a developer have cash 100 million, they may need to put all this 100 million in one project if it is BTS project. But if they have progressive payment from the buyers, they can vest this 100 million into 3-4 similar projects, no? Is this really pro the developer?

You thought developer will make rugi business? They already factor in the "risk" of BTS concept into the selling price lah.

If they use the current market price, perhaps they will launch it at around 600k, but because of the "BTS" concept, then they jack up the price to 723k loh, no?

Home buyer instead paying 60k as dp, now they need to pay 73k as downpayment instead, good? Maybe good, coz they can move in almost immediately after settling the 90%. However, because of this, they may need to pay the future price as well.

However, this would not definitely curb the flipping activity, as who said flipping cannot be done on the "subsale" project?

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post Sep 7 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(tZZ @ Sep 7 2014, 11:54 AM)
The most obvious which comes to mind would be Bandar Utama Developement lor...9 bukit utama
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+1 Bingo.
Under See Hoy Chan.

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Sep 7 2014, 11:55 AM)
BTS concept is developer won't open for sale any single unit until the project 100% completed, then only advertise for sale, just like see hoy chan did during old days.
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Jz strikes my mind. If u read thru BBW posts, is this TS main intention of this thread?

This is his direct question asking bout BTS.

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His indirect question or his main objective is to ask if this project a good buy? He want to know if the price ok or not. He worry overpriced. Can appreciate or not? Worth to buy or not? Good for investment or not though more for own stay. He keep saying crash and DDD. Now found sam sui property but shy to ask direct question scared betray his DDD geng.

BBW, nothing to be ashamed to buy a house and ask direct relevant question. BTS or STB not really a big concern if you can afford to buy and for own stay. And no free lunch in this world. All this marketing strategy costs has been factored in your purchase price. Developer coming with innovative new idea to attract buyers. Now market very competitive and developer struggling to get buyers who can get loan approval. For landed property and at this area, personally I feel it wont goes wrong. But have to go there and see the surrounding environment. Whether surrounded by run down houses? Kampong area? Nearby amenities? If i like the environment, I don't mind to pay slightly higher. Future capital appreciation will be better too. Jangan malu2. Buy house only mah. Later you will learn the excitement of doing renovation. Later u will feel want more and more unit end up a flipper with multi properties. Thn join UUU geng already.

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post Sep 7 2014, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 7 2014, 11:59 AM)
Lol, BBW seems like do know about the importance of cash flow. If a developer have cash 100 million, they may need  to put all this 100 million in one project if it is BTS project. But if  they have progressive payment from the buyers, they can vest this 100 million into 3-4 similar projects, no? Is this really pro the developer?

You thought developer will make rugi business? They already factor in the "risk" of BTS concept into the selling price lah.

If they use the current market price, perhaps they will launch it at around 600k, but because of the "BTS" concept, then they jack up the price to 723k loh, no?

Home buyer instead paying 60k as dp, now they need to pay 73k as downpayment instead, good? Maybe good, coz they can move in almost immediately after settling the 90%. However, because of this, they may need to pay the future price as well.

However, this would not definitely curb the flipping activity, as who said flipping cannot be done on the "subsale" project?
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if developers do not have enough cash flow, flippers has better cash flow meh?
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post Sep 7 2014, 12:34 PM

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This thread shld be renamed :

BBW asking GOOD view residence Sg Long a G00d buY? I want to buy.


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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 12:32 PM)
if developers do not have enough cash flow, flippers has better cash flow meh?
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Answer is yes. Is it hard to accept??
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 7 2014, 10:32 AM)
i never see admin also can troll... I didnt say it Sin heap lee says it...

enough of all this BS.. i am going to see this project.. one ting for sure Semenyih project sure bungkus
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You are the TS, topic title is created by you. Now claim admin troll. doh.gif

See the topic title "built & sell is here" and first post of the topic. smile.gif

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Sep 5 2014, 03:03 PM)
Built & sell property
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post Sep 7 2014, 04:11 PM

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Please stop any personal talk issue, here is not kopitiam talk section.

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post Sep 7 2014, 04:29 PM

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BTS = built then sell

Bro bear is actually saying built and sell

U guy pls dun b too harsh la. Collecting 10% now n balance b4 vp is no doubt built and sell ma. Means if u start booking even without paying, dev can start putting up hoarding liao

Here in Malai ppl Alwiz shout out loud who n who r building Sthg here or there when hoarding is up

So by signing a booking form it's considered sold lo even no deposit made. Why??? Lotsa cases done b4 pre launch to insiders ma.

I agree with bro bear. Build and sell. U guys pls stop trolling with built then sell.

Sekian terima kasih.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 7 2014, 04:29 PM)
BTS = built then sell

Bro bear is actually saying built and sell

U guy pls dun b too harsh la. Collecting 10% now n balance b4 vp is no doubt built and sell ma. Means if u start booking even without paying, dev can start putting up hoarding liao

Here in Malai ppl Alwiz shout out loud who n who r building Sthg here or there when hoarding is up

So by signing a booking form it's considered sold lo even no deposit made. Why??? Lotsa cases done b4 pre launch to insiders ma.

I agree with bro bear. Build and sell. U guys pls stop trolling with built then sell.

Sekian terima kasih.
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If my memory served me right, back then when they talk about Build & Sell is Builded until like 80% then start selling, "heard" (cannot confirm) many countries is practising such method, good to avoid abandoned project & those who need a house fast.



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