QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 12 2014, 09:02 AM)
Manual says xw30 mah. I follow lor. Btw, this Mobil-1 also got SAE-20 and SAE-30 Advanced Fuel Economy blah oil.But the SAE-20 says (For Honda and Toyota). CheepJing car, not on the list.
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Nov 12 2014, 02:50 PM
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Nov 12 2014, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 12 2014, 02:50 PM) Manual says xw30 mah. I follow lor. Btw, this Mobil-1 also got SAE-20 and SAE-30 Advanced Fuel Economy blah oil. weren't you the one who mentioned the manual said xw20 also? and then there's the talk about ambient temperatures? like how Malaysia don't get 40 Celsius ambient temperatures.But the SAE-20 says (For Honda and Toyota). CheepJing car, not on the list. my EO turned out perfectly fine (again, better than virgin oil) with 0 degradation and it's additives/detergent going strong (again, stronger than virgin oil lol) after 8500 km. engine wear was a little on the high side, however i was assured by the lab people/other people that it's just engine parts breaking in. my second report will further confirm on that soon. |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 12 2014, 02:55 PM) weren't you the one who mentioned the manual said xw20 also? and then there's the talk about ambient temperatures? like how Malaysia don't get 40 Celsius ambient temperatures. No lar bro, manual says 30 to 40 only wor....my EO turned out perfectly fine (again, better than virgin oil) with 0 degradation and it's additives/detergent going strong (again, stronger than virgin oil lol) after 8500 km. engine wear was a little on the high side, however i was assured by the lab people/other people that it's just engine parts breaking in. my second report will further confirm on that soon. Here: But your engine oil used isn't mobil-1 bro, we don't know if all 0w20 oil will produce the same result as your lab test...better be on safe side...it's not like Lala is fuel efficient car anyway... |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 12 2014, 03:00 PM) No lar bro, manual says 30 to 40 only wor.... wei, your picture there, you don't see 0w-20?Here: But your engine oil used isn't mobil-1 bro, we don't know if all 0w20 oil will produce the same result as your lab test...better be on safe side...it's not like Lala is fuel efficient car anyway... -40 c to 40c ambient temperature range. some more it was based on OLD API SG specification in case you keep missing it, look at the chart. |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 12 2014, 03:09 PM) wei, your picture there, you don't see 0w-20? The chart is for reference of the various standard only mah....the text there says use 30 or 40 only.-40 c to 40c ambient temperature range. some more it was based on OLD API SG specification in case you keep missing it, look at the chart. Does fake lala manual says differently?? |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:15 PM
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here i read again:
QUOTE Select engine oil of the proper SAE viscosity number according to the atmospheric temperature. quite straight forward, right?SAE 0w-30, 5w-30, 5w-40 can only be used if they meet ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, or A5/B5 and API SG (or higher) specifications. |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 12 2014, 03:15 PM) The chart is for reference of the various standard only mah....the text there says use 30 or 40 only. http://www.pqiamerica.com/devilsindisguise.htmDoes fake lala manual says differently?? you want to tell me that today's engine oil cannot deal with 40 Celsius non existent atmospheric temperatures that was based on standards set in 1988? (API SG) |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 12 2014, 03:17 PM) http://www.pqiamerica.com/devilsindisguise.htm I don't want to tell you anything lar bro, i am not the engine oil expert. I am kiasi lala driver only. you want to tell me that today's engine oil cannot deal with 40 Celsius non existent atmospheric temperatures that was based on standards set in 1988? (API SG) Anyway, found some lancer forum comments here to share: http://www.evolutionm.net/forums/lancer-en...ad-0w-20-a.html This post has been edited by Matrix: Nov 12 2014, 03:22 PM |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 12 2014, 03:22 PM) I don't want to tell you anything lar bro, i am not the engine oil expert. I am kiasi lala driver only. this post a?Anyway, found some lancer forum comments here to share: link preview thing sigh QUOTE Now not all oils are the same, synthetic or not. Different manufacturers construct their oils in different ways. Mobil 1 for instance has made a formulation change and has engineered their 0w20 and 0w30 to be equal and some may be bold to say superior to their 5w20 or 5w30 counterparts. It has been engineered to flow better in the cold, and out perform in extreme heat conditions vs. the more common 5w20 and 5w30 oils. That said, many of the oil companies in the industry rejig their formulations to make a better product. And the trend is heading towards 0w oils. While myself and my car club are sponsored by mobil 1, for the past 2 years, I have used mobil 1 all my life and to be honest. It has never let me down. What shocks people even more, I use the extend performance stuff on my other cars and change my oil every 17,000 miles. And they do just fine. On my lancer I use the 0w20 oil |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:32 PM
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Nov 12 2014, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Nov 12 2014, 03:32 PM) Yah lor...found guinea pig liao...now more confident to use 0W20 next round....but this oil....15k miles...=24k km.... even the amsoil 25k miles (40k km) also tell you to change oil in a year, so... those kinda oils you can pretty much ignore their mileage already.I probably need to drive 2 years to reach that...LOL. But i will probably do oil change in 9 months.... looking back at proton (if your car still under warranty and provided you give a shit about it), it's 10k km/6 months, so maybe around 11-12k km or 7/8 months go back oil change? I've heard proton seems to be very lenient on their service schedules. i'll follow the 20k km on my oci for the motul 300v cuz i'm damn curious on my engine wear and the EO's quality (being a racing non API SN certified EO) so want to get it tested out asap (while not doing it too early resulting in huge waste) |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:46 PM
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Tak abis abis EO. Btw ws2 make engine run quieter. No increase in power according to my butt dyno, fc remains the same.
Eo shell ultra pure plus. Testing done... 3k km. Gonna get rid of this ws2 soon as ws2 will increase corrosion rate according to angmoh military study. :star: |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Nov 12 2014, 03:46 PM) Tak abis abis EO. Btw ws2 make engine run quieter. No increase in power according to my butt dyno, fc remains the same. i had ws2 poured in first eo change (with the amsoil, and liqui moly ceratec too)Eo shell ultra pure plus. Testing done... 3k km. Gonna get rid of this ws2 soon as ws2 will increase corrosion rate according to angmoh military study. :star: but with the cost involved... i might as well just whack motul 300v and actually save money from it >.> btw got link to ws2 corrosion rate study/article? interesting to find out myself. |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 12 2014, 03:49 PM) i had ws2 poured in first eo change (with the amsoil, and liqui moly ceratec too) U can get it from boitg. Hard for me to dig the link out from my hp.but with the cost involved... i might as well just whack motul 300v and actually save money from it >.> btw got link to ws2 corrosion rate study/article? interesting to find out myself. |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Nov 12 2014, 03:50 PM) BITOG i assume? you help me find la, i don't really visit BITOG that much, they too crazy jor lol.as the "joke" goes, using their (bitog members) used oil also better than cap ayam/fake EO outside (especially vastly sold in Malaysian market) |
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Nov 12 2014, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 12 2014, 03:52 PM) BITOG i assume? you help me find la, i don't really visit BITOG that much, they too crazy jor lol. How to know enginr oil fake or ori...no way to tell...sigh..as the "joke" goes, using their (bitog members) used oil also better than cap ayam/fake EO outside (especially vastly sold in Malaysian market) |
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Nov 12 2014, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 12 2014, 03:52 PM) BITOG i assume? you help me find la, i don't really visit BITOG that much, they too crazy jor lol. Nah... http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a536171.pdf -source from bitog.as the "joke" goes, using their (bitog members) used oil also better than cap ayam/fake EO outside (especially vastly sold in Malaysian market) Gonna do more study before feeding anymore more crap on my engine. anyway moly aka mos2 seems like a ok stuff, some mustang guy do a tear down comparing his cam 70k km(rp oil) with others on mobil1 30k km. Rp with moly seems able to maintain the cam condition like new. Somewhat can conclude that moly would be a better additives for engine. This post has been edited by nicotine: Nov 12 2014, 04:16 PM |
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