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 Tropicana Heights @ Kajang , V2

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OrangeGrove
post May 5 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(natoptkc @ May 4 2015, 11:18 PM)
Any1 familiar wt Tropicana workmanship n finishing?  hmm.gif
Read bout goodview fb page saw many owner posting many defect issue. Worry~ing  sweat.gif
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Where is Goodview?

Anyway, I had walked into Tropicana Heights Parkfield gallery which is the empty unit of Fairfield 2-Storey type1B terrace, I told the SA I would like to walk around their "sales office". I walk around from living room, to kitchen, bathroom, the 3 empty bed room upstairs, thus I am able to gauge how does a bare unit looks like what I will be expecting when I get my key for 2 storey Fairfield. I am impressed with the finishing given, rooms up stairs are spacious (mine is 2 storey type1B as well, same as the unit I walked in). Finishing of the bathroom is great, full tiles with nice sink. I think only need to fix a mirror and water heater given, anything else is given, bathrooms are very spacious. Ceiling height is great, windows are high and wide.

It is better to walk around "Parkfield gallery" to look at Fairfield 2-storey terrace finishing, and get a feeling of its spaciousness without any furniture. Unlike the showroom (corner unit) which is fully renovated and fully furnished, very hard to gauge the actual space.

Fairfield terrace is top notch thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by OrangeGrove: May 5 2015, 11:16 AM
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post May 5 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(AlphaTrader @ May 5 2015, 11:33 AM)
Yes bro tropicnana finishing is very good. Anyone buying phase 2 can pm me. I can be ur referral n we will split the referral fee...
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PM me too icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 6 2015, 02:27 PM

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FairFied, I am paying 1270 liao. siong ah biggrin.gif
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post May 7 2015, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(bztalks @ May 7 2015, 08:10 PM)
I am just standing for my right. Probably you would say the same things when future sales campaign give other buyer 20% discounts which you are not entitle.
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Previous there was an idea of protesting by phase1 buyers to Trop for launching terrace in phase2, but i guess everyone had accepted it as there is no black n white stating they wont build them.

i think the rebate n discount is more of an agreement between buyer n developer, and they are not spelled out in SNP. the only thing you can challenge is if the official price in SNP is quoted wrongly smile.gif

promotions comes n goes, i think there is no perfect timing. Developer need to cari makan and keep the sales going.

mayb u can try intro 3 frens to buy any Tropicana houses n get 0.5+0.5+0.5 referral fee thumbup.gif

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post May 7 2015, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(bztalks @ May 7 2015, 10:45 PM)
I am not dare to introduce to my friends anymore. Previously I brought my friend to look for this project and I found Tropicana offers extra discounts during March. He is still considering for the semiD project at this moment. I guess I can tell him to forget about this project. If Tropicana offers extra discounts after he signs the S&P and he will regret. hmm.gif I don't want him to be in same situation like me. My Uncle's son is also considering this project because I bought it. I better ask him to go for other developer.  rclxub.gif
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my view is what if they really like it but you ask them to walk off, and end up actually there is no additional discount after that?

what if when your house is completed and they come to visit you, they see the beautiful place but they didnt buy bcos u ask them to avoid, but you have they nice house to yourself? and they regret even more bcos they didnt buy? sweat.gif
bcos once completed, usually you cant buy subsale with developer price anymore cry.gif

buying house to call home can be something personal and emotional, some willing to pay more to live in exclusive area. Near mrt, ktm, kajang town, multiple access and nice landscape. Not many such development around in kajang with such proximity to amenities. Buying from developer always have risk. like buying stock, very seldom you get to buy at the lowest n sell at the highest.. laugh.gif

mayb just let ur relative understand the risk.. at least you had done your responsibility to tell them of such incident, the rest depend on their judgement whether to take the risk or not, its up to them, they might even praise you or thank you for introducing such a good place instead. nevermind the small discount that they didnt get but instead an emotional fulfillment that they gain icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 7 2015, 11:31 PM

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anyway, to Tropicana, if you are reading this, hope you can strategize your sales better n explain why such promotion being done to ease buyer's mind. seems buyers are distressed here. sweat.gif

the standard answer we always get is "this is the direction of upper management"
since you are representing them, i think it is your responsibility to explain better to your loyal buyers. nod.gif
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post May 8 2015, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(bztalks @ May 8 2015, 09:56 AM)
I agree that there is risk in buying house but I just find out the risks of buying from Tropicana is far more than other developer in which their sales campaign can cause the house price fluctuates like stock. rclxub.gif You buy today but one month later your neighbor buy the house in better direction with the same price like you or even facing park just because of the sales campaign. I just afraid the future launch would be in much lower price if they find out the sales is not that good. It might be small discounts now but in future the direction or location of house can cause a lot different in term of selling price.

I shared with my friends about this yesterday and showed them the email conversation with Tropicana. Their reaction was saying this developer is not trustworthy, all the monotone replied. They asked what if in future your house got some defects, would they replied the same way. I would leave with them whether to proceed since semiD not launch yet.

Anyway thanks sharing for this. I just hope the developer can be consistent in their selling campaign. If they offer discounts, everyone can get it. If not earlier buyer would feel it is unfair to book earlier or better just wait for it to buy a better location house with the same price or just top up a bit during sales campaign.  sad.gif
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The discount and rebate that they give is not bound by law, and is more of a developer own incentive to entice buyers. The only thing that is bound by law is the SNP document, and suppose buyers have to pay up the 10% downpayment according to Bank Negara ruling. Developer is giving incentive to "offload" some burden, thus its more of an additional incentive smile.gif

However, talking about defects and liability, this is bound by Housing Development Act which developer have no way to avoid as long as the defects are within 18 months, they have to fix it.

Discount, Rebate, promotion are very subjective and subject to market condition, sentiment etc. I dont think you can bring them to court bcos of discount dispute, but you can sue them for not fixing defects, that is the different smile.gif

Just my 2 bakuli, cheers icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 8 2015, 01:52 PM

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Passed by the junction from Silk into Kajang 2.. I tot they gonna build tunnel, but it looks like flyover instead. Anyway, its a good move, looks like completing by end of this year rclxms.gif

http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=2.976714...798050&z=19&m=b
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post May 8 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(bztalks @ May 8 2015, 02:38 PM)
It seems like a good practice to study whether the developer would frequently offer discount and rebate in their previous project. Only buy their project during sales campaign. If not market bad, the developer dump the price, all previous buyers suffer loss.
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I think for your last statement, it applies to all developer. Which developer can still increase price when market bad, maybe you can advise and we follow laugh.gif

What makes a good product, IMHO consist of location, quality finishing, amenities and desirability. These likely help you to get thru bad economy and at least preserve some value. And also Potential and Catalyst that might push the value further

If solely base on sales campaign, places like Bukit Beruntung ppl might buy if they give 20% discount? laugh.gif

paiseh la.. to me, I am looking at a more holistic view when buying property. Sales campaign is just part of the factor but to me it is not absolute. Depends how much you can tolerate the "loss", but looking at the long run, does one really loss that much or actually even gain more biggrin.gif

Market is tough lately, I think some other developers also struggling on strategizing pricing and product to keep the ball rolling. good days of the 2009, 2010, 2011 are gone. Tropicana is not the only one

This is my 4th prop.. very good traning to see on a holistic view. But we agree to disagree no problem icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 8 2015, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(bztalks @ May 8 2015, 03:23 PM)
Bro I didn't mention the developer will increase price during market bad in my last statement. I would chit chat with you for the property investment next time, I just want to focus things that I would like to do this time in which to gather the relevant people to have further discussions.
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post May 9 2015, 11:26 AM

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anyone buying the semiD link? mayb can keep us updated wink.gif
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