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post Sep 3 2014, 03:32 AM, updated 12y ago

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2 type of diets, same amount of calories.

For example : -

A) High fat, moderate protein, low carb = 3000 calories
B) High carb, moderate protein, moderate fat = 3000 calories

Question: Are fats more readily stored as adipose stores in a surplus than carbs?

EDIT: Found from bodyrecomp



This post has been edited by GameFr3ak: Sep 9 2014, 12:52 PM
Armesh
post Sep 3 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Sep 3 2014, 03:32 AM)
2 type of diets, same amount of calories.

For example : -

A) High fat, moderate protein, low carb = 3000 calories
B) High carb, moderate protein, moderate fat = 3000 calories

Question: Are fats more readily stored as adipose stores in a surplus than carbs?
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I think both same, the extra cals will be stored by the body as fat like any other diet.
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post Sep 3 2014, 02:28 PM

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High Fats, High Carbs, High Protein!!! lol...live life to the fullest.
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post Sep 4 2014, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Sep 3 2014, 03:32 AM)
2 type of diets, same amount of calories.

For example : -

A) High fat, moderate protein, low carb = 3000 calories
B) High carb, moderate protein, moderate fat = 3000 calories

Question: Are fats more readily stored as adipose stores in a surplus than carbs?
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ermm... when u r in surplus, i dont see why must use low carb diet. low carb diet / keto well known for cutting. i choose B in anyday

n to answer ur question, i found this:

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It is also possible for fat cells to take up glucose and amino acids, which have been absorbed into the bloodstream after a meal, and convert those into fat molecules. The conversion of carbohydrates or protein into fat is 10 times less efficient than simply storing fat in a fat cell, but the body can do it. If you have 100 extra calories in fat (about 11 grams) floating in your bloodstream, fat cells can store it using only 2.5 calories of energy. On the other hand, if you have 100 extra calories in glucose (about 25 grams) floating in your bloodstream, it takes 23 calories of energy to convert the glucose into fat and then store it. Given a choice, a fat cell will grab the fat and store it rather than the carbohydrates because fat is so much easier to store.


http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cell...c/fat-cell2.htm
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post Sep 4 2014, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Sep 3 2014, 10:07 AM)
I think both same, the extra cals will be stored  by the body as fat like any other diet.
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Not very sure about that...


QUOTE(VaLeNrUdOn @ Sep 3 2014, 02:28 PM)
High Fats, High Carbs, High Protein!!! lol...live life to the fullest.
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Good for you..


QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Sep 4 2014, 08:18 AM)
ermm... when u r in surplus, i dont see why must use low carb diet. low carb diet / keto well known for cutting. i choose B in anyday

n to answer ur question, i found this:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/cell...c/fat-cell2.htm
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That's not what I'm doing, those are examples. Thanks for the link. Any more feedback or opinions guys?
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post Sep 4 2014, 06:56 PM

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IINM, it's not as clear-cut as it may seem. You might want to look up research from Lyle McDonald, Eric Helms and Alan Aragon to see if they've delved into this topic.
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post Sep 7 2014, 02:17 PM

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Did some research and found this. Btw this is on cutting rather than bulking.

http://www.examiner.com/article/low-carb-d...ealth-new-study

High fat diet loss 3x more fat. TDEE was constant.
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post Sep 8 2014, 10:27 AM

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Do alternate week or two for both different diet, and see which fits your body better. Everyone is different, always remember that

But if you are more incline to putting up some mass, carbs is always more favourable
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Sep 4 2014, 06:56 PM)
IINM, it's not as clear-cut as it may seem. You might want to look up research from Lyle McDonald, Eric Helms and Alan Aragon to see if they've delved into this topic.
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Yeah, this is what I thought so too. Gonna try and find something from a reliable source. Will share when I found one.

QUOTE(Armesh @ Sep 7 2014, 02:17 PM)
Did some research and found this. Btw this is on cutting rather than bulking.

http://www.examiner.com/article/low-carb-d...ealth-new-study

High fat diet loss 3x more fat. TDEE was constant.
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Not sure if the source is reliable. Will look deeper. Thanks.


QUOTE(Darshan @ Sep 8 2014, 10:27 AM)
Do alternate week or two for both different diet, and see which fits your body better. Everyone is different, always remember that

But if you are more incline to putting up some mass, carbs is always more favourable
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Yes, I'm aware of that but let's say 2 individuals with identical nutrient intake, nutrient storage and nutrient oxidation.

 

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