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post Oct 3 2014, 10:30 PM

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Neh.. china would send their coast guard only.. it like a baiting ticket for them if those cutter were to be attacked.

US will help pinoy if they are willing to spur money on their equipment. But given how unrest and cash deficient pinoy it, i see no economic point in helping pinoy even. Same goes to other asian countries on helping pinoys

But for china let say case senario they were to send their warship here. Our anti ship missle is waiting for them.
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post Oct 8 2014, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 8 2014, 07:27 PM)
Lucky cannot reach malaysia, imagine 350 marines coming in at 100km/h
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Canot fit into type 52 ldp... have to transport by transporter
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 8 2014, 09:05 PM)
The Zubr was never designed for long-range operations in the first place. The Soviets designed the Zubr for operations in the small Baltic sea. They were designed so if hostilities with NATO commenced, they were supposed to be used to land Marine forces on key coastal positions in countries like Sweden, Northern Germany and Denmark.

In the context of the PLA Navy, the Zubr would be perfect for lightning operations to capture outposts in the Spratlys and Paracels islands that not suitable to large ships due to the shallow seas near the archipelago. Also could be used to carry the most urgent cargo or supplies that just can't wait for slow ship journeys and to deliver them directly to the landing beach for the amphibious force. These are sea-going hovercrafts, so crossing the South china Sea from Hainan or Southern China should be no problem.
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yup it was nvr designed for ldp because it was before the russian have the ldp for transportation laugh.gif

Unlike the US which designed the LCAC then get all existing ldp to fit it in

Zubr under PLA is preparation for taiwan and japan whistling.gif
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post Oct 8 2014, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 8 2014, 10:47 PM)
Not worry
chinese own type LCAC long time in service with Type 071 LPD.... at lease 3 year before get Zubr .......

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not surprising that it resembles the US lCAC whistling.gif
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post Oct 8 2014, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 8 2014, 11:09 PM)
more resembles to korea lcac than US one...
anyway if RMN buy Type 071, i think RMN will not include LCAC, actually LCAC price is expensive and cost operation a bit high too。
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korean are based on US

depends on which country malaysia would like. US normally includes LCAC in the deal, korean also include most likely

china not sure, very little on china foreign sales information
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post Oct 8 2014, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Oct 8 2014, 11:33 PM)
Anywayss almost impossible for us to buy china stuffs, who the hell buys equipment from a country youre having a dispute with, even if youre not to jeopardise relations
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of all the country in asean, we have the best relationship with them

so it not surprising we might get a type 71

that is why malaysia and china have not publicly criticized each other on repetitive claim even though both sides are quietly arming out their teeth rolleyes.gif
just in case, just in case

if china were seriously put threat to the claim, the country that have the most benefit would like be malaysia. Anyway, we are also energy supplier to china, so it does not really matter since the resources is coming into china hand as well whistling.gif
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post Oct 20 2014, 03:06 AM

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PLA to build airfield on Fiery Cross Reef

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To project its power into the disputed South China Sea, China has decided to build an airfield on Fiery Cross Reef in the Spratlys after its land reclamation program according to state-run China NewsWeek.The Chinese foreign ministry claims that China has a right to conduct any activity in its own territory and the People's Liberation Army stated that countries like the Philippines and Vietnam, rival claimants to the island group, along with Taiwan, Brunei and Malaysia, do not have any right to make any comment regarding the construction over the Spratlys. The magazine stated that the land reclamation program on Fiery Cross Reef indicates that China is constructing a new airfield as a foward base for the PLA Navy and Air Force.

Currently, there are four airports in the Spratlys. The largest one is located on Taiping, the largest island of Spratly, which is administered by Taiwan. Malaysia, Vietnam and the Philippines each have their own airport in the island group, with Malaysia's on Swallow reef, Vietnam's on Spratly and the Philippines' on Thitu. Ten islands, reefs and shoals are currently under Chinese administration however, the PLA Navy and Air Force do not have an airport in the disputed region.The PLA has constructed an airport on Woody island in the Paracels which extends the combat radius of the PLA Navy's fighters, but it is still too far for them to provide close air support to the Chinese garrison in the Spratlys. To prevent joint military action against China in the South China Sea which could potentially be launched by Vietnam and the Philippines with the support of the United States, the magazine said that it is critical for the PLA to have an airfield in the region.

China is looking to cooperate with Taiwan in the region. The airfield in Taiping was constructed under the orders of former president Chen Shui-bian, in 2006. After the construction of the airfield was complete, Chen became the first president of the Republic of China to visit the island in early 2008. Since then, the Taiwanese government has begun to strengthen its defense of the island.

China was critical of the airfield on Taiping and its use by US forces to monitor PLA activities in the South China Sea. China's attitude changed however, after Ma Ying-jeou succeeded to the presidency. Beijing hopes that Ma Ying-jeou will be willing to cooperate with mainland China to defend the Spratlys, despite their rival claims to the islands.Ma Ying-jeou has openly rejected the idea of cooperation with China in the South China Sea. A source told the magazine that direct cooperation between Taiwan and mainland China in the South China Sea is impossible within the next 15-20 years because the current Kuomintang regime is still strongly influenced by the US. Cooperation can only be realized in the event of unification, according to the source.


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i wonder how long more malaysia can remain non-vocal on this situation whistling.gif

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post Nov 5 2014, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Nov 4 2014, 10:42 PM)
From France MOD's twitter....

Is that KD Tunku Abdul Rahman ?

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Tak dengar any of our sub in dry dock pun..

LTZ boleh confirm ?
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post Nov 7 2014, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 6 2014, 08:33 PM)
Probably also too big for fighter-bomber aircraft, so in PLAAF probably only H-6K can carry the the missile. Then the missile can be the Chinese version of the famed Russian AS-4 Kitchen, to be the source of fear for US carriers. Up to now, the most powerful Anti-ship missile in PLA arsenal is the already huge YJ-12, which is a near-copy of a Russian P-270 Moskit missile. It already has US defense thinkers recalculating the odds of survival for any carrier battle group.

The appearance of the Hypersonic CX-1 would probably throw the calculations seriously way off balance yet again in the near future.

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I think US already put it into consideration, the new CX-1 just another supersonic anti-ship missle to add to thier headache

over the years, US think tank already highlighted the vulnerabilities of large carrier group especially under missile saturation attack give that what russia and china will most likely do. The supersonic speed just add more problem but the idea of saturation attack is still there

Their stop-gap solution is to built more cost effective AEGIS destroyer to provide more area defense and also more ship to accompany the carrier group. Other suggestion is to built a primary anti air and anti missile destroyer like the Type 45. But Naval old school thinking is that a multi mission destroyer is more effective in cost than a dedicated system
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post Nov 8 2014, 10:38 AM

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With indon and vietnam purchase just put us to shames.

Maybe the nezt rmk will allow us to buy new or upgrade existing asset. Sad to see everytime no budget

Most important get air defense system which our is severely outdated and self propelled artillery which is the back log for so long
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post Nov 8 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Nov 8 2014, 02:51 PM)
Why dont malaysia build high tech steel mill?? Seems quite weird that we dont even have one high tech mill even though theres so much construction and industries in malaysia.. Or isit just that naval steel is super hard to make blink.gif

And let us all hope that rmn will choose essm in 8 mk41 vls or at least camm
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we got, just that demand is just not economical to upgrade existing facility. Naval grade steel is not much diff from normal steel just differs formulation

let say LCS fully built with demand form local mill, what are the next order?

one time order does not justice a new fully updated





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post Nov 8 2014, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Nov 8 2014, 04:38 PM)
So all the other type of steel we make for industrial purposes all lower grade than naval steel??
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naval grade steel one of the ingredient inside is chromium, formulation is almost like stainless but with added strength and corrosion resistant

exact formulation is a guarded secret. No mill will reveal their formula

industrial steel mostly are just carbon steel, why u need naval grade steel when u are on land and the steel are inside the concrete? sweat.gif

Just go find ISO standard steels, there alot. Normally for military naval purpose there no actual standard to apply, all diff by requirement sset by the manufacturer or customer
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post Nov 8 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 8 2014, 07:21 PM)
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A clearer picture of the CX-1 hypersonic missile. From the technicians working on it we can probably reasonably gauge the approximate size of the missile. My take? Probably 8-9 meters in length and around 80cm across.
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india defense forum is buzzing that cx-1 is a copy of brahmos

size wise, almost same even up to the stabilizing fins positioning is the same

although, it can also be said that it a copy of the P-700 or P-800 which brahmos is actually based upon but none of previous two was also reportedly even sold to china

Goes to show, china does not hesitate to copy even latest military hardware. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Nov 8 2014, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 8 2014, 10:15 PM)
Hahaha don't la say 'copy'. That's such a bad word.

A better word would be 'Reverse engineered'.  rolleyes.gif
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reverse engineered officially is when u already have the item via legal means and u create a new one based on that whistling.gif

but neither brahmos, p-700 or p-800 was reportedly sold to them rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

so how they obtained it to reverse engineered? That why russia also dont really want to sell weapons to them if not for the money thumbup.gif
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post Nov 9 2014, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Nov 9 2014, 12:34 AM)
I saw some people on china defence forum saying reverse engineering takes is a very complicated process which takes a lot of skill rolleyes.gif
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defending a IP thief but in end still a thief laugh.gif

also from the airshow

China copy of " Joint Standoff Weapon"
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Original AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon
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post Nov 9 2014, 09:33 PM

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Canot afford a C-130J, china have just the solution for you with their "original" rolleyes.gif
For now it labelled as Y30..

Though personally it look more of a400 copy without it 6blades

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http://www.asiandefencenews.com/2014/11/ch...0-on-cards.html

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post Nov 9 2014, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 9 2014, 09:41 PM)
Yes, you cracked it!
It is a medium transport plane with a high-set wing and four 6-blade prop engines, thus it is a C-130/A400  copy. This is the absolute truth.

Any attempt to say otherwise is anti-communist propaganda. brows.gif
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Yes, canot afford brahmos here cx-1 for you whistling.gif
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post Nov 10 2014, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(hafizushi @ Nov 9 2014, 10:38 PM)
any country have show their dissatisfaction over copy technology by china? i guess no one dare hehe
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Russia did and thre a period of hesitation when china asked for the s400 system. Russia initially does not want to sell due to fear of copy.

But in end also sell for the money
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post Nov 10 2014, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Nov 10 2014, 05:41 PM)
heard we were interested in Textron's Scorpion..
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It still struggling to get its first customer.

The problem is that yes it cost under 20million but is not say very cheap by any means. For malaysia, 20mill is also a huge amout close to 80million ringgit per plane. Yak 130 cost almost the same and it better equid as well and can double as trainer

And that 20mil it just a shell. It need radar upgrade if it want to do patrol mission, maybe a add-on fly by wire system to reduce pilot n co-pilot load. Having fly by wire really help when doing bombing run as what i was told. Can just focus on the target and the plane will do most of the flying during tat time.

For me, yak 130 look like a better bargain since it also a twin seater twin engine, come with fly by wire, it say to be open-architecture as well. And it projected to cost as low as 15mill, cheaper plus already have customer buying it.

The perk Scorpion have over Yak is that is western product. Spare parts and service is not an issue unlike russian one.
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post Nov 11 2014, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 11 2014, 12:25 AM)
just launch 2 year +, it take time to get customer ....

for now days a training jet simply cost more than 20 milion and reach 30 million too.... 20 million like small money for now, military helicopter also more expensive than usd 20 miilion.
for Scorpion, it not only as traning jet, but more main role is Intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) , can to SAR, Maritime patrol, it take same MPA job, some F-35 feature, which can't do by tradition traning jet.
RMAF show interested on Scorpion can be expected, it can solve out issue now, not budget for MPA/old traning jet, so Scorpion can as training jet with more type weapon support and system, can do some MPA job (mini MPA),SAR, ISR, it can replace our 20 year old B200T as MPA, it more capability compare to our B200T MPA, can replace Hawk as strike jet , close air support.  means 1 jet solve our basic needed.  i not means it can replace full MPA job, but at lease mini MPA better than nothink, we not getting MPA for other 5 year.
Scorpion maybe suite country like as.
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something YAK-130/or its western variant M-346 is also designed and capable of doing

though m-346 is already used by our neighbor, which i think also a play a role of us looking into scorpian instead

I guess the two seater and twin engine is still some our air force always want laugh.gif
I hope the fly by wire is an added option, plus radar upgrade for wider coverage as well as more powerful engine with after burner option laugh.gif

BTw from top look nicely design but from front look like some fat side due to the air inlet protruding out laugh.gif


our hawk i dont think will go out so soon.. still one good and cheap aircraft to operate

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