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 Car Care and Detailing [V4], Caring for your car apprearance

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TSKrisMas
post Jan 6 2016, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(busta_dude @ Jan 6 2016, 02:45 PM)
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Firstly, Megs White Wax is an AIO (polish-clean-protect) utilising abrasives (mechanical) cleaner as oppose to other 'normal' AIOs with chemical cleaners. Defects/swirl removal abilities would be quite mild (minimal) especially by hand application. It would improve the 'shine'/gloss but don't expect it to remove much of the defects/swirls.

Secondly, Collinite 476S and Soft99 Fusso Coat are basically products that performs the same function - to protect the paint. The former is of an 'older' tech formulation and the latter is a more modern formulation. I haven't tried the Soft99 before but, personally, I doubt that it would last much longer than the Colly. You don't really need to do a round of IPA wipedown after using Megs White Wax, but it would help with the durability as waxes/sealants bonds better to a clean surface...much like glue...

My personal suggestion is that, after you've finished with the washing and claying, just go on and do a little bit of paint/deep cleaning with Megs White Wax with EITHER your Megs mf or foam pad (I would suggest the mf pad cuz it is slightly more aggresive) and afterwards just put on a layer of EITHER Colly OR Soft99. If you still want to add on another layer, I would strongly suggest using the same wax as you *might* get incompatibility issues if using a different one. Maybe later on, after a month or two or anytime you decided to re-do, go for another round of Megs White Wax and use the other one. If you're curious on whether the two waxes are compatible with each other and would improve the durability, why don't you do one section (or even half the car) with one wax on top of another and see whether it makes a difference or not in the long run. Comes to think of it, even Megs White Wax *could* have the same issues so why not just straight away put a layer of wax right after claying on a small section....just for comparison sake....hahaha.

What I'm trying to say is, now that you have 3 different products from 3 different brands, it's better if you try a few combinations yourself and see which one you prefer and suits you best. What we can do is just guide you with some basics but it's really up to you to choose which method SUITS YOU THE MOST.

And about the Hex-logic pads, I'm not sure they would make much of a difference if you're working by hand. The stiffer pads would have an advantage if you're trying to remove defects but I'm not too sure Megs White Wax is the proper products to go with that...and again...especially if you're working by hand. Maybe you should look at the stiffer pads and a heavier cutting polish/compound when you've decided that you want to do some heavier defects removal. By that time, I would think you'd also be looking for an entry level machine to help you out...believe me you will after doing a round of light polishing and waxing.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Another thing, BSD is a great topper and so easy to apply and it's also quite durable. Use it after your next wash (after the proper polishing/waxing session) and you might not even consider using the Colly or Soft99 for quite some time..... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

Anyway, don't forget to HAVE FUN ya.....
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post Jan 13 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Jan 13 2016, 04:43 PM)
Sifus, im new to car detailing or more like just want my car sparkling clean..

Given that I own a silver paint car.. quite old, have water marks and little bit of swirls..

I just want to make it clean and shiny and looks less dull/old.. doesnt matter or not water spots can be completely removed, just wanna make it less obvious and clean looking + shine !

So which product should I use? Wash & wax, clay? normal shampoo? Any recommendations?

Oh btw, Im poor. so any cheap products that can do the job?

thanks sifus.
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1 bar of Soft99 clay bar (RM20), 1 bottle of car wash shampoo (RM10), Soft99 Meta Clean (RM39), a couple of applicator pad (RM10) and a also couple of microfibre cloth (RM15) (quoting prices from Lazada)....can't think of anything cheaper that I would dare to recommend.... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(derail @ Jan 13 2016, 07:53 PM)
Where did you get the claybar for 20?
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I just qoted the price searched/shown in Lazada...just to indicate estimated pricing/expenditure...
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post Feb 11 2016, 12:52 PM

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The essentials for maintenance: Shampoo, clay, paint cleaner OR AIO, paint sealant OR wax, spray sealants/wax/detailer. For paint corretions (swirls, scratches, water marks/etchings, etc): compounds and/or polishes. Start with the basics, then move up from there.

Shampoo - If you have the means, go for the normal shampoo. I would reserve the suggestion for 'no-rinse' only if you have limitations/not able to do a normal wash.

Clay - pick one up if your car had never been clayed before.

Sealant/wax - both M21 and Opti Seal have their own pros and cons. For ease of application I'd go for Opti Seal. And Megs Ultimate Liquid Wax comes in the same category so I'd just pick one of the three for protection.

QD - Sonax BSD would be more than good enough. And there's not much application for a quick detailer in our climate or for a daily-drive.

You can use any pads with the Bosch ROB as long as the size is right...between 5.25" ~ 6"...6.5" is max size that I would consider to be effective to be used on the Bosch.
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post Feb 15 2016, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(SilverSpoon @ Feb 12 2016, 02:15 AM)
Hi to all the sifus here, i plan to wax my car once every 3 months. Instead of applying the wax manually by hand, will the Black & Decker WP900 do the job? I see a lot of people here recommend the Bosch GEX-125AE ROB too. Or is the above Bosch model better for waxing job?
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B&D good enough for wax application...that's about all it's good for....
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post Feb 16 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(asha24 @ Feb 15 2016, 03:29 PM)
alwiz admire those white Honda City on the road..it looks so classy...so got my new car white colour....2 months back  thumbup.gif

when rainy season with the dirt after 1 week i go wash...the dirt mark not completely go away..the shop fella said need wax rm 40 one layer or rm 80 full wax....else need polish...rm100...

before  i regret why buy white...need advice on how to maintain a white car on longer term ? im not rajin enuf to wash every week  shakehead.gif

i heard of ceramic coating..is that good investment for protecting my car paint from dirt and remain shiny as now for long...without much wash/wax/polish ??
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Wash regularly...there's no other way. Even if you slap on the best coating money can buy, you'd still get those stubborn stain, albeit easier to wash off. And if you left it for too long and stain the coating, it's going to be a costly affair....
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post Feb 16 2016, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(radiancephil @ Feb 16 2016, 02:41 PM)
Anybody knows what is the best method to clean the those LC polishing/waxing pads? Just use clothes washing powder or dishwashing liquid?
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Dish washing liquid....and remember to rinse thoroughly.
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post Feb 17 2016, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Feb 16 2016, 05:42 PM)
Yeah, I'm kinda interested to know this too.
Currently I just let is soak over night but somehow this works for Polish but not for Wax.
For Wax, I have to squeeze the remainder out and do a quick rinse with washing detergent.

Using normal clothes washing detergent biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(douglas_tong @ Feb 16 2016, 05:44 PM)
how do you suggest it cleaned? I've seen articles on cleaning it with brush, cloth and by squeezing.

i get lazy sometimes
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QUOTE(radiancephil @ Feb 16 2016, 09:44 PM)
When you said liquid detergent, meaning laundry liquid detergent like TOPS or dishwashing liquid detergent?
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Compounds & polishes are easier to clean. Just mix some dish washing liquid with water inside a sprayer bottle, spray onto the pads, leave it for half an hour or so (just makes sure to keep it damp), massage with hand, rinse under running water while squeezing the residue out. For drying, if you have a rotary polisher you can put the pad on and spin dry it. If you don't have a rotary polisher you can just wring the water out and leave it to dry (under shade). For hand foam applicator pads, the same applies.

Now, waxes and sealants (including glaze & AIO's) will be more stubborn. Best solution I found is to use Dawn Power Dissolver as posted by bro slk, using the same technique as above but with shorter dwelling time...like 15 mins or so. I've tried using All Purpose Cleaner, Degreaser, Dish Washing Liquid, baking soda, distilled vinegar, etc. but nothing was able to do an effective job as DPD. DPD is a bit expensive though, so, best alternative (but not as effective) is to do multiple soaking and cleaning with dish washing liquid.



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post Feb 18 2016, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(senscents @ Feb 17 2016, 06:20 PM)
Where can i buy Dawn PD in Kl or Pj. Can not find it on jusco, tesco or even cold stoarge.
Greatly appreciate if any member can give one or two locations selling this DPD
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ACE Hardware outlets should have them.
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post Feb 18 2016, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(slk @ Feb 16 2016, 04:53 PM)
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Small tip for using DPD for cleaning foam pads. Dilute it 1:1 (1 part DPD with 1 part distilled water) in a sprayer bottle. DPD is a little thick/concentrated and quite strong. It's quite effective even at that dilution.
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post Feb 18 2016, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Feb 18 2016, 09:19 AM)
Should we use gloves if we plan to use DPD?
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I would strongly suggest, if possible, do use one. Rubber would be fine but nitrile would be ideal. My palm always feels rough and some times even peeling after using it.
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post Feb 18 2016, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(senscents @ Feb 18 2016, 10:49 AM)
Thanks,Sifu Krismas any other applications for this DPD other than cleaning pads/mf
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Detailing wise...just for cleaning waxes/sealants from FOAM pads (doesn't work as good on microfiber pads). I don't use it for anything else as it's a very harsh and powerful chemical mix.

Non-detailing wise, it's also no 1 on my list for cleaning *very* stubborn grease and those caked-in grease and burnt-on food on BBQ grills, oven, cooktop, bottom of frying pan, etc., better than those foaming oven cleaner tongue.gif
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post Feb 18 2016, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(senscents @ Feb 18 2016, 01:34 PM)
Learn good tips from you every time. Appreciate.
Any TT session soon? It had been quite sometime ago since it was last held, which i missed.
My white ride need pampering, since I've neglected more than 6 months.
Pls advise if any TT session coming. Thanks in advance.
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Will tell you if there's any in the future. Where's your location anyway?
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post Feb 19 2016, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(stevenng97 @ Feb 19 2016, 12:16 AM)
Guys my car top got a lot watermark and already etching even use soft99 (blue) can't swipe off any suggestion ? Polish or compound or anything ? Even my front car glass also kena use what to remove help help !!
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For severe water etchings on paints, you'd need at least a mild polish or a compound, of which I haven't found any (decent ones) selling off-the-shelves at any departmental stores accept for Meguiars Ultimate Compound. You can try Turtle Wax Rubbing Compound or any 'rubbing compound' but there are risks involved as these compounds are quite harsh and, if not properly used, could create their own damages. You'd most probably need to follow up with a mild polish to 'refine' the finish. I'm not sure what the soft99 (blue) that you're refering to, but Soft99 Meta Clean would be able to reduce the water etchings by removing most of the mineral deposits. But you'd still need to 'cut' the paint with a compound to remove the etchings (marks).

For glass, just be careful ESPECIALLY the front windscreen. You can try Soft99 Glass Compound Z or an acidic (liquid) cleaner like Tomcat. But if the windscreen/glass is already etched, better let a pro handle it. Glass is so much harder than paint and would require 'special' tools and products for proper 'polishing'.

Regards.
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post Feb 19 2016, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(linkin182 @ Feb 19 2016, 09:34 AM)
I think he's referring to this Soft99 polish:-
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I have this too, not the best of polish IMO.
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That one is an AIO (All In One) cleaner/polish/wax...very mild...not strong enough to remove even heavy water marks....
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post Feb 19 2016, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(stevenng97 @ Feb 19 2016, 02:38 PM)
But so scared if using compound or polish to remove watermark as you said it will damage the paint >.<
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We use the word 'compound' for something that is very aggressive and 'polish' for something milder. A good analogy would be like using sandpaper. A compound would be the lower grit sandpaper (very coarse) and a polish would be the higher grit (finer) sandpaper. Under normal circumstances, after using the coarse sandpaper you'd need to follow up with a finer sandpaper if you want to get the surface smooth. Knowing the right method and technique is essential to get a good finish. In actual fact it is not difficult to do. What makes it difficult and, subsequently causing 'damages' is due to not knowing what you're doing. Google around, ask around, get to know how to do and what product can do what, then you're good to go.
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QUOTE(garrick86 @ Feb 24 2016, 12:50 PM)
not sure why but everytime i apply carpro reload the oil stain is very hard to buff away eventhough it is just 1 spray for whole bonnet, any advice?

i had to use carpro eraser to lighten it everytime.
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Those 'oil stain' (or we call it streaking/clouding) are signs of product drying too fast or not being applied evenly. Need a bit getting used to when applying spray waxes in our climate/weather conditions. Some times leftover products on the mf cloth that could also cause them, and you'd need to chage cloth often. I normally dilute mine with distilled water (by 25% or 1 part water + 3 parts product) and get better results.
QUOTE(linkin182 @ Feb 24 2016, 01:33 PM)
I might drop in a tip for spray on waxes is to spray a little on the MFB Towel to have a more even application.
That would prevent you from over spray on the panel and have an easier wipe on (damp side) - wipe off (dry side) later on.

Shake well before applying  of course biggrin.gif
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post Feb 26 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(stevenng97 @ Feb 26 2016, 03:53 PM)
Guys recently in Facebook keep see soft 99 fusso wax or f7 keep promote is it good ? And really the wax can up to one year ( which mean just wipe on time) or the usage can use up to one year ??
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I would bet that those 'promoters' haven't really tested their waxes in our country/region/climate. But, saying that, most waxes would/could last for one year...if the car is parked in a showroom and never driven out... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Mar 3 2016, 08:39 AM

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Thanks for the share. Keep us updated on the durability & performance. I wasn't that impressed with M188 (well...comparing with the other coatings that I've tried) but I might had erred on the applications....

Oh...just my personal opinion...if the price you got is anything like the one on ebay linked by linkin182, I think you can get better coatings.... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Mar 3 2016, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Mar 3 2016, 09:19 AM)
Hi bro,

Yeah, got it from a forumer here. Got better coating within that particular price range? Must have missed it. Anyway, been using meguire's for quite a while. Thus, was looking into their coating. Appreciate if you could share some recommendable coatings.
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*Assuming* the price range (product only) is around RM400. You can opt for IGL Coating, 22ple or Osren's (of which I haven't tried yet). If DIY, I would suggest 22ple VX1 or VX3 simply because it's more user friendly and easier learning curve to apply and wipe off. Not sure if they're still available to purchase locally though.... tongue.gif Believe you me, if you think M188 is good, then you'll be blown away with 22ple.....hahahaha....

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