I know a number of people who went to Australia, got permanent residency and returned home (Malaysia or Singapore) after 8 years or more. The ones I know are teachers, lawyer, accountant, school principal and sales managers.



I am asking because one uncle has been asking me so many times to go there (they renting a new place in Doncaster) but I heard life over there is good if you live in the Asian dominated suburbs. He sold his A$450,000 home after getting random racial abuses and spray painted words on his fence. He and his family only use the car to go in and out from his Frankston home, never walk outside home or hang around at the bus stop to take the bus. '






Are things so much better over there or is exaggerated? Anyone else gone there before to live for a while?

live in Mars. That would be great. Otherwise, it is just another place like London or LA, discrimination towards asian.

I had lived in Australia for 1 year as students.....

What I can tell you is racism is everywhere, regardless whether in Australia or even Malaysia.....

Just like in Malaysia, there is some racist or religious fanatics, but, for every those crazy fella, you can easily find 10 or more peace loving tolerant people around.

Whether it is good or not, it up to you to judge and experienced it yourself........but, do not be discourage by the negative comments......

I do faced racial abuse there before, but, at same time I have great time there too.....I believe in human universal code of conduct, treat others like how you want to be treated, and others will treat you the same....of course they are some aren't, but, that is minority, rather than majority

Haha, try put urself in a fate of a bangla that asking the same question b4 coming to m'sia.
and in reality how are they've been treated here? (still an alien)

Those occupations you talk about, most of them aren't technical. So I wouldn't know much about their market.

I've been here 7 odd years. Life is ok I guess.

I was in Queensland city for two months. There were lots of Asian looking people. Cars much cheaper! Many people seemed to be ok. Of course not not sure how things would be if one is not a tourist.

When we went to outer Cairns, some people starred at us.





Last month my uncle said he was told loudly by a woman with British accent at medicare office to fill out properly or go for English classes! My uncle has been there for 20 years in Aust. He studied at Monash and Taylors College!

I spend most of my time in a camp working 12 hours a day, the time I don't spend sleeping, I spend at the mess or at the gym.

There's little racism out here. The company f***s us all equally.

sis is living in sydney... good pay, 7x her msian pay after converting.. renting a room at a $4mill aud bungalow.. live is great... got car got $$$ got nice house... i will go there every year just to hv holis...

Renting doesnt mean she has a car, its just a temporary place to stay since she doesnt own it.

car is owned... place is rented for now, still deciding whether to buy or not... getting married soon...

I've lived there for about 7 years, firstly as a student and subsequently as an employee. Throughout my time there there were several cases of racial abuses but it is rather uncommon and is usually restricted to the bums and lower income locals. The public in general over there are friendlier and more courteous than most Malaysians. Food wise there is a wide array of cuisines available around Melbourne (I'm guessing that's where you're gonna end up based on the suburbs you mentioned), but I did crave for the real Malaysian food from time to time. There are plenty of Malaysians and Asians there as well so assimilating to the lifestyle is not too hard.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Melbourne was recently voted as the World's Most Liveable City again. It is a wonderful place to live and work in as the Aussies emphasize alot on work-life balance, but ultimately i returned to Malaysia as many of my friends failed to secure their PR and it got kind of lonely over there. Hope this helps.

Nobody should be converting salaries. U earn AUD and ure spending in AUD. Period. We're not tourists to be converting currencies. And when we talk about income, we should always refer to TAKE HOME SALARY. Ull see that it surely wont be 7X more or anything close to that unless she was earning about 2K here before she left.

talking bout gross... and she's making a managers salary back in msia... when she moved to aus, she got pushed up 2 bands above her msian paygrade.. lucky her

more than 6 figures aud, in msia not even 6 figures myr p.a.

On working in Australia and the 'returning after 8 years' issue, ask yourself if you would regret it if you didn't let yourself try it out. If you secretly always wanted to try it, you will definitely regret - unless your life in Malaysia is bloody amazing or perfect. I know this much, if you want to return you can always return, no harm done. But if you've never tried it (Hong Kong, Singapore, UK, Europe, America, Australia), you really will never know. If you're a happy sort of person you can have a fantastic life in Malaysia (preferably with some money if you live in the urban areas, as security is a major issue).

On racism, this is inevitable in many places. Ignorance, and human nature, are the main drivers, not geography. Even in a city with almost 30% or 40% Chinese (i.e. some cities in the United States), an ethnic Chinese or similar looking East Asian (Korean, Japanese) can experience racism. The racism experienced by Asians in the UK and Australia is similar to what Bangladeshis and Indonesians experience in Malaysia, or what Filipinos experience in Hong Kong. Australia's ethnic Chinese population is huge and growing. But it doesn't help that the behaviour of many Chinese nationals is less than acceptable for immigrants.

It is simply untrue that you cannot lead a decent life or leave your house safely if you don't live in an Asian suburb. Like any country or place in the world, there are good and bad people everywhere, and there are idiots everywhere. Violence and bullying is not widespread or tolerated in modern Australia. It doesn't mean an entire race or nationality deserves to be grouped together in a bad way.

Depends on what you mean by better.
If better means you want a more relaxed life without the glitz and glory of money then yes.

But if you want truckloads of money and live like Jordan Belfort in wolves of wallstreet and you are good and smart enough, then no. In fact Australia would be rubbish. For that you need to go to NY, London, SG, HK. First choice Wallstreet. See if you can get a place with Goldman.

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I would have told the woman I probably have more Australian education and credentials than her whole family combined, hence why she is standing behind the counter taking my forms...

Sometimes, u just need to be garang and people won't dare to kacau u. Because usually Asians are very timid, all these Angmoh think easy to bully

Well but if I save $1k aud a month, and eventually return to Msia after 12 months, that's $12k aud - which also happens to be about rm36k. In any normal job in Msia (esp entry level in kl) how to save rm36k in a year?? Depends how you look at it really

Managers salary in Malaysia and not even 6 figures p/a??? What kind of manager is that? And now she getting 7 figure salary per annum in AUD? Something is not right with your info.

We're not talking about saving money. We're talking bout salaries. And we're also talking bout those who have migrated there not those who work a few years and then return. So pointless doing a currency conversion.