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post Aug 26 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 25 2014, 10:29 PM)
Maybe it's time we organize a lowyat.net photo outing again. biggrin.gif It's been a while.
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okok, i waiting for it
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 26 2014, 10:00 AM)
Depends what type of photos you want to take.
If more on night, fast zoom lense of F2.8 will be good, since boosting ISO or longer shutter speed will result to noise and blur photo.
But a zoom lense with F2.8 will cost >rm5000
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1. there are plenty of zoom lens with f2.8 that are below RM 5k
2. if you think f2.8 is great for low light / night photos then LOL case already.
3. get a tripod / learn to use flash
4. pro photographers use ISO 12800 or higher even for night photos, just that many newbies aren't aware of it because they haven't actually met such pros. the more often come by other noobs that think ISO must be at ISO 800 or below.
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post Aug 26 2014, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 26 2014, 11:31 PM)
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1. there are plenty of zoom lens with f2.8 that are below RM 5k
2. if you think f2.8 is great for low light / night photos then LOL case already.
3. get a tripod / learn to use flash
4. pro photographers use ISO 12800 or higher even for night photos, just that many newbies aren't aware of it because they haven't actually met such pros. the more often come by other noobs that think ISO must be at ISO 800 or below.
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Third party do cheaper than rm5k, but lasting or not it depends to usage, not to mention quality of the photo(I know, skill does matters, but I never see a paid photographer using third party lens on people's event).
Flash are good, but then once it can't reach, it still can't.
Tripod are good for slow or still, but not for fast moving objects.
You are right, f2.8 are not everything, but still on an entry level body, it still can help.
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post Aug 27 2014, 12:02 AM

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1. NEW Canon 16-35 f2.8 and 70-200 f2.8 can be acquired for less than RM 5,000. 3rd party lens photo is actually pretty good, not that people can tell the difference.

2. your posts mentioned NIGHT but not specific so I highlighted what are the options available.

in reality f2.8 could allow you faster shutter speed but it's not always the better lens. an f/4 lens with IS (2 - 3 stops advantage) could in many situations work better than an f2.8 lens.

case by case, at events people often shoot at f/4 - 5.6 with flash.
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post Aug 27 2014, 07:58 AM

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But non of the Nikons are at the price you mentioned.
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post Aug 27 2014, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 27 2014, 07:58 AM)
But non of the Nikons are at the price you mentioned.
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A Tamron 70200/2.8 costs only less than RM3k
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post Aug 27 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Aug 27 2014, 11:49 AM)
A Tamron 70200/2.8 costs only less than RM3k
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But I still prefer Nikon's lens drool.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 27 2014, 07:58 AM)
But non of the Nikons are at the price you mentioned.
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AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f2.8D ED

AF-S Zoom Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D ED-IF Autofocus Lens is slightly above RM 5k i believe.

can't get the trinity f/2.8 smile.gif
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post Aug 27 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 27 2014, 11:15 PM)
AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f2.8D ED

AF-S Zoom Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D ED-IF Autofocus Lens is slightly above RM 5k i believe.

can't get the trinity f/2.8 smile.gif
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Both you mean new or used?
Used 17-35mm need rm3800 last time when I came across it.
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Referring to new. smile.gif Used unit I think you could get some of the trinity lenses under RM 5k.
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post Aug 28 2014, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 27 2014, 11:48 PM)
Referring to new. smile.gif Used unit I think you could get some of the trinity lenses under RM 5k.
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Nope, 17-35mm still fetching rm6000 for new. That's beginning of the year price I got. Getting this better go for 14-24mm, which is about there also.
If the trinity set of f2.8, it still need rm11000-15000 sweat.gif
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post Aug 28 2014, 12:52 AM

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most people aim for the 14-24 + 24-70 + 70-200 trinity for no overlap. biggrin.gif

alternatively one can just go for 16-35 + 24-120 + 70-200 F4. If I were to go Nikon FX body I would go for those, all lenses have VR.
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post Aug 28 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 26 2014, 10:00 AM)
Depends what type of photos you want to take.
If more on night, fast zoom lense of F2.8 will be good, since boosting ISO or longer shutter speed will result to noise and blur photo.
But a zoom lense with F2.8 will cost >rm5000
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not all zoom lens with f2.8 cost >rm5000

and aperture is not the only factor for low light photography
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post Aug 28 2014, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ask_Yip @ Aug 28 2014, 08:36 PM)
not all zoom lens with f2.8 cost >rm5000

and aperture is not the only factor for low light photography
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Yup, you are right, not all cost >rm5000, when considering non Nikon together.
All the elements(aperture, ISO, shutter speed) are equally important.

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