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TSderic79k
post Aug 24 2014, 12:37 PM, updated 12y ago

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hi , I new into this ,

looking one DSLR lens for shooting, any advice?

was thinking get one second hand unit Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM lens

price around RM1200

pls advice me

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post Aug 24 2014, 12:41 PM

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What do you want your lens to do? What made you choose the 15-85? If you've already chosen why are you still hesitating?
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post Aug 24 2014, 12:58 PM

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I just see ppl sell this within my budget , so I think think ,

that's y I ask for advice here

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 12:58 PM)
I just see ppl sell this within my budget , so I think think ,

that's y I ask for advice here
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do u see good deal then buy? doh.gif

if you don't even know why you want to buy other than the good price, then don't even buy it, it's a waste anyways.
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post Aug 24 2014, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 24 2014, 01:00 PM)
do u see good deal then buy?  doh.gif

if you don't even know why you want to buy other than the good price, then don't even buy it, it's a waste anyways.
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sifu wat u think?
I only have 18-55 stm lens , I just learn this

was thining buy myself a better lens,

any advice?

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 01:04 PM)
sifu wat u think?
I only have 18-55 stm lens , I just learn this

was thining buy myself a better lens,

any advice?
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ask yourself what do you lack of from the 18-55 lens? focusing? IQ? build quality? or? If it's just little matter, then you don't need to upgrade at all. If it's more important things, like focusing speed and accuracy if you shoot moving subjects a lot, then consider to upgrade.

Even if it's a good deal, but if you don't really need it, it will only collect dust and left unused after bought.
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post Aug 24 2014, 01:36 PM

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it is not the lens but the photographer that decide how the image is created.

having a good lens does help to give you some special edge but that has nothing to do with creativity.. you have to horn those skills yourself.. If you are lucky to have a good mentor than you will progress a lot faster (hopefully) but it all boils down to good habits and practice.. Going back to the same old boring place is good at horning your skills. You get to correct your mistakes.

I can stand on the same spot at the same time each day on top of the bridge with the same hardware and still come up with totally different effect each time... I dont get bored.. I just go home, critically examine the photo, go back and take another dozen in the next opportunity.

Once you master that , you hopefully learn and understand your hardware a lot better and then can decide what is your next best addition.. to pick a prime or zoom? all that will be part of your learning curve.. no short cut..

If you have deep pockets then it is a totally different story.. you can afford to buy to show and tell if need be.. that is a different game.

and lastly, each area of subject interest require different approach.. you am like them. you may not.. or you may even change through time.. they my require different hardware too..

Have fun and take plenty of pix.. you have already paid for the equipment.. it is FOC after that..
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post Aug 24 2014, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 24 2014, 01:34 PM)
ask yourself what do you lack of from the 18-55 lens? focusing? IQ? build quality? or? If it's just little matter, then you don't need to upgrade at all. If it's more important things, like focusing speed and accuracy if you shoot moving subjects a lot, then consider to upgrade.

Even if it's a good deal, but if you don't really need it, it will only collect dust and left unused after bought.
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Thanks for advice,

I think I should go to any course first before I buying. Am I right .
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post Aug 24 2014, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(ChinWY @ Aug 24 2014, 01:36 PM)
it is not the lens but the photographer that decide how the image is created. 

having a good lens does help to give you some special edge but that has nothing to do with creativity.. you have to horn those skills yourself.. If you are lucky to have a good mentor than you will progress a lot faster (hopefully) but it all boils down to good habits and practice.. Going back to the same old boring place is good at horning your skills. You get to correct your mistakes. 

I can stand on the same spot at the same time each day on top of the bridge with the same hardware and still come up with totally different effect each time... I dont get bored.. I just go home, critically examine the photo, go back and take another dozen in the next opportunity. 

Once you master that , you hopefully learn and understand your hardware a lot better and then can decide what is your next best addition.. to pick a prime or zoom? all that will be part of your learning curve.. no short cut..

If you have deep pockets then it is a totally different story.. you can afford to buy to show and tell if need be.. that is a different game. 

and lastly, each area of subject interest require different approach.. you am like them. you may not.. or you may even change through time.. they my require different hardware too..

Have fun and take plenty of pix.. you have already paid for the equipment..  it is FOC after that..
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Appreciate that,

I really need a mentor, I don't have friend like this, I alone,

May I know where to get an starting course ?
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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 01:51 PM)
Appreciate that,

I really need a mentor, I don't have friend like this, I alone,

May I know where to get an starting course ?
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Go to a camera shop with friendly sales man. Spend hours there to chit chat. Is better if you are purchasing something.

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 01:50 PM)
Thanks for advice,

I think I should go to any course first before I buying. Am I right .
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don't need to any course for a beginner i think, there's plenty of useful information around the internet.

go to website like youtube/ 500px/ flickr more oftenly and you will slowly find the type of pictures you like then slowly observe and learn from the photographer.
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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 12:58 PM)
I just see ppl sell this within my budget , so I think think ,

that's y I ask for advice here
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Nono, why did you even think of buying a new lens in the first place? What do you want to do that your 1855 is limiting you? Do you want the 1585 because of the additional 55-85mm zoom? Or the USM? What?
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post Aug 24 2014, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Aug 24 2014, 04:58 PM)
Nono, why did you even think of buying a new lens in the first place? What do you want to do that your 1855 is limiting you? Do you want the 1585 because of the additional 55-85mm zoom? Or the USM? What?
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Just wish to get myself a new toys, u have for sell?

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 09:11 PM)
Just wish to get myself a new toys, u have for sell?
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I see. So there's no reason la? Just for fun. Hmm I'm not very sure about Canon's lenses, how about you try a prime instead? Like a 50/1.8. That way you can play around with the 1.8 instead of the useless extra range.
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post Aug 24 2014, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 09:11 PM)
Just wish to get myself a new toys, u have for sell?
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if this is the only reason, better forget about it. ppl get specific lens for various kind of photography needs
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QUOTE(vincentlee90 @ Aug 24 2014, 09:31 PM)
if this is the only reason, better forget about it. ppl get specific lens for various kind of photography needs
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noted, than i will stick with my 18-55 stm lens

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post Aug 24 2014, 10:51 PM

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by the way, need ask something , normally u all shooting use which mode?auto?
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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 09:11 PM)
Just wish to get myself a new toys, u have for sell?
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don't buy better, use those money in places you need more.
QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 10:51 PM)
by the  way, need ask something , normally u all shooting use which mode?auto?
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depends, Av 90% of the time, M for flash. Tv for sports sometimes. Modes don't matter that much, as long as you know what you need to take control (iso? shutter speed? aperture?)
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QUOTE(deric79k @ Aug 24 2014, 10:51 PM)
by the  way, need ask something , normally u all shooting use which mode?auto?
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mostly full manual. almost 90%. only when shooting sport photography will changed to shutter priority mode
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post Aug 25 2014, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Aug 24 2014, 10:53 PM)
don't buy better, use those money in places you need more.

depends, Av 90% of the time, M for flash. Tv for sports sometimes. Modes don't matter that much, as long as you know what you need to take control (iso? shutter speed? aperture?)
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Thanks sifu, really wish can learn from u more. I totally no idea of using it

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