Mass Gainers have Protein too. Only diff is they have added Carbs to provide the extra calories for Hard Gainers.

If Body Builders can take Whey Protein Supplement to speed up their progress, I don't see why it is any diff than a 'Hard Gainer' taking a Mass Gainer to speed up their progress. Each has it's purpose.

Btw, Good for you that you can eat extra food and put on weight without extra help. Nobody said you can't put on weight without supplements.

But if someone wants extra help from Mass Gainers, no one should shoot them down just because they themselves don't use it.

What's your height, btw. Just giving your weight at 55Kg does not mean much without giving your height

I'm 182cm. Tall lanky guy.

The problem is people don't know what are Mass Gainers... for their brains Mass=Muscle. And when they end up gaining 5kg in 2 months, they think it's muscle like the case seen in previous post in this thread.

Well, I don't think he exactly said that all he gained was muscle. He acknowledge part of it was fat as well.

There's no harm in gaining some fat especially when starting from a very light body weight. An ectomorph should be able to get rid of the extra fat once they up their exercise routine and stop their Mass Gainer as they reach a certain weight. But of course they must know when to stop the mass gainer by looking at the mirror for feedback.

They can eventually switch to Whey Protein to increase their muscle further and burn the extra fat off.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Aug 30 2014, 12:03 AM

Here's what you've said before


We understood that it's probably "newbie gains" , however the second bold-ed phrase, that's just inaccurate tracking based on how you measure ur progress (body measurement machine thingy). how sure are you that the machine is accurate ? It may be calibrated wrongly ? Perhaps the pictures and stuff would work. So by stating what you've said along with the "out of it ~6kg were muscles and was taking mass gainer" may mislead newbies in thinking that as long as they consume mass gainers, they'll gain that easily ? When calorie calculating (maintenance calories, calories needed for bulking/cutting etc..) is the main important factor one should know as their fundamental basics , ever thought of that? Perhaps it's not the mass gainers but the amount of calories you eat after all.

I've been gaining progress ever since, all i did was read the stickies, calculate my calories, stay consistent and repeat. And without mass gainers So to conclude this argument, if you have the extra money to spend on sugar shakes, then why not, afterall it's your money, your decision, your body, your goals.

This post has been edited by kshen: Aug 30 2014, 12:17 AM

Whey protein does not burn fat.

For an early 20's male teen ~1.7-1.8m 60-70kg with somewhat active lifestyle who has not worked out before, their daily energy expenditure average to about 2.6-2.8kcal. To bulk yes he needs to top maybe 400 cal above that daily. I have used mass gainer as a food supplement to aid me achieve my desired goal. You need to understand job nature/laziness and other factors may inhibit people from making proper food constantly. I know i can make a 1kcal mass shake by adding maybe peanut butter, milk, sugar and some whey. And yes perhaps I mislead by saying consuming mass gainer = muscle gain but clearly my after post did not implied that already. But sorry I do still insist on my ~6kg figure, and you can blame the machine is broken or whatever.

Going offtopic, yes the perception of consuming mass gainer is very strong amongst malaysians or perhaps east asians as we are borned frail in size. So the word 'mass' is somehow captivating for new smaller size gym-goers rather than first learning the basics of bulking, proper muscle growth, cutting blablabla. If they mistake mass gainer=muscle then its their fault. It wont take long before their belly comes out. But simply trashing 100% population who take mass gainers are the real losers who does not understand the basics itself. Alright my argument is concluded.

Agreed with the bold-ed statement, it's basically the nature of humans, they want quick results with minimal output of energy, which brings us here where majority rely too damn high on supplements as their sole source of muscle building. Their belly won't come out if they know what's their TDEE and caloric measurements Who says you have to make proper food to reach ur needed calories ? (disregarding cost-wise). it really comes down to different individuals IMO

Come on, I can't believe you can misinterpret my statement that way.

When I say burn off the extra fat, of course I don't mean the Whey Protein doing it. Burn off fat meant stop the Mass Gainer at the proper time and burn off the fat through his ongoing exercises.

The switch to Whey Protein is just to maintain or add to his lean muscle not to burn fat.

I don't understand you people who say "calories = calories" or "doesn't matter what you eat, all that count is calories" or "calories deficit = lose fat, calories surplus = gains" can get so butt hurt when ppl take mass gainer to reach their goal. I know majority of malaysian think mass = muscle growth but please don't assume all consumer think that way. I took 1packet ON Serious Mass in the past when I was busy with work. So damn convenience, 1scoop = 600cals. I gained 6kgs. I don't bother using the scaling machine in the gym. I gained in strength and size, I'm still skinny & I have six packs. That's all I ever need and care.

This post has been edited by Amedion: Aug 30 2014, 10:33 AM