Quite rare.but still got..
Find in startup arena.for cormmecial programmmer. They dont deliver good product they deliver deadline

I am fine with coding tests too. I have attended many interviews that require coding tests. There is one interview where they show me my coding test result and I am doing very good but I am not hired. The reason? After they show me the result, they ask me one more question: Am I satisfied with the result? I answer no, because I have a perfectionist attitude and very detailed person. Maybe they scare I am too ambitious and will not stay long there, so I not get the job. The ways they interview, if they followup the coding tests with some questions afterward to judge the candidate attitude and approach, I think that are all good.

Haha.me tooo.never satisfied.

I've coded for like 5 years. Mostly markup language like html/css with a bit of js. Html5/css3, frameworks (bootstrap/foundation) is nothing new to me. Occasionally did some php and vb.net. Currently busy with portal dev using Sharepoint 2013. My colleague always said "You know lots of things. You can do design, you can create/mod the template, you can do the config, you can dev the webpart and you even know other lang. Try jump to other company. You are underpaid here" and I hate it. Really hate it. Because I always feel my skills is not enough for me to go thru the interview. To get other job. Coding test? My total nightmare. Never been any but I always think that I will break and fail. I have no problem to explain the flow like "create this class, call it this and then" but to code? I really need to refer my previous code or Google. When some people talk or discuss about subject that I am not familiar with (core, assembly, x86, heap, stack, memory allocation, deep cs stuff) I was like "shhhyytteee..I am nooobs..the hell they talking about. I have no fckg idea..". X_X

i refuse to agree with this one!
its about how u show yourself in interview..
some code testing might be differentiate good programmer or self-proclaim good programmer
show some kill..
also be honest.. nothing wrong with being honest with your own level

Relak bro.. .. Not to offense anyone..just my experince.

Samote=WinkyJr,Aug 24 2014, 01:47 AM]
I've coded for like 5 years. Mostly markup language like html/css with a bit of js. Html5/css3, frameworks (bootstrap/foundation) is nothing new to me. Occasionally did some php and vb.net. Currently busy with portal dev using Sharepoint 2013. My colleague always said "You know lots of things. You can do design, you can create/mod the template, you can do the config, you can dev the webpart and you even know other lang. Try jump to other company. You are underpaid here" and I hate it. Really hate it. Because I always feel my skills is not enough for me to go thru the interview. To get other job. Coding test? My total nightmare. Never been any but I always think that I will break and fail. I have no problem to explain the flow like "create this class, call it this and then" but to code? I really need to refer my previous code or Google. When some people talk or discuss about subject that I am not familiar with (core, assembly, x86, heap, stack, memory allocation, deep cs stuff) I was like "shhhyytteee..I am nooobs..the hell they talking about. I have no fckg idea..". X_X

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Same . i m noob. All work now sap sap sap?

no bro i am not mad
just joking around..

btw before i start at my new company, i do interview some programmers on my previous company..
somehow it is quite true dat some talkative programmer fail to do codes while quiet type succeed more
too bad company didnt want to hire them

do they really throw college questions at you?

It is hard to look for good programmers in Penang. My company will hire those who is interested in programming and will provide the necessary training in programming and business logic.

We are using
VB6 - fresh graduate might never heard of it
ASP3 - never learned but mostly picked by fresh graduate in a few weeks
Android - not many college have Android lesson

So, we mostly train them on the programming.

Someone from previous post said the biggest problem is waiting for ppl to apply, this one I 100% agree. Not many apply for the jobs. RM2500 for fresh graduate with training. After confirmed increase based on performance. If good can get RM2800 after 3months.

I just moved to sp.. Finding job area penang.but vb6
Dam cool yo. I like vb6 compare to .net winform or wpf.asp3 it old asp page vb? Maintain old system maybe? Ado.recordset.movenext movefirst .

Yes, maintaining old system.

"I've taken a whiteboard test that asked me to come up with an algorithm that was difficult for me. I got the job even though my solution was horribly inefficient (and I knew it), and the interviewer later told me that the point wasn't to see what algorithm I knew - it was to see if I acted like an ass when I didn't know stuff."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8333623

The last time I attended an interview for a programming job I was given an IQ test rather than programming test. Answers done by previous candidates were visibles on the answer sheets. In order not to confuse myself I requested clean sheets of A4 papers to redraw all the answers.

The interviewer was more impressed with the way I answer the questions and it earned me a 4 months holiday/training in Houston.

some are.. but even college question, some candidate fail to do it..
even graduate with flying color

those all 3 quite rare..
most IPT stop teaching that and Android, they don't feel like it is a much market in Malaysia
My FYP i propose for Android app ( a simple one ) but the FYP coordinator and dean of uni reject it saying no market for that

damn son you're genius!

i suck at answering questions on a whim.
presentations, essays, coding all also.
gv me 2 time and i can produce top notch 9/10 stuff tho...

Most of the time the interviewer dont know programming and shit, so most of them depends on looking at interviewee's cert. But those cert most of the time doesnt mean anything.

During my college time, my coding skill already exceeded my lecturer, where my lecturer asked me to write a solution to a question to the board(guess because he saw everybody was trying while i do nothing), i just walk to the board and code like 10-15 lines of code(linked list related, replace node). Then the lecturer just look at my code, and didnt say anything, then wipe the board, and ask everybody to copy his answer.

So what do you expect from the students of these college ? They passed their exam not because of their capability of code, but memorize, and only like 4 out of 30 subjects has direct linkage to programming, others like add maths, data structures, moral(WTF), and the FYP can be easily solved by paying(plenty of examples in even codemaster section).

So if these interviewers dont have the ability to code, they dont trust certs, they dont trust you either, what choice do they have ? Yes I agree with you, if they dont have the ability, then dont do it. But most of the time, its an order from the management, "get a few programmers, get our website and e-commerce settled", u gonna answer "no sir" ?

If you feel u arent feeling well about those tests, its a fair game, just walk away, if all 30 out of 30 of their interviewees simply walk away, then u still have a chance =P. Hes the boss in this scenario, just like i dont like "negaraku" in cinemas, what can i do about it ?

* I said Most not All

I go two interview past two week

1. One asking if wanted to learn apple script because they used it.He said no API for adobe software.

Back in the night i find if were true if adobe don't have api for scripting.. Yes they have.

2. Asking basis question about html,css,javascript and sql and write it paper ?
** dam my writing are bad.. dono how they will read it..
I said to the,they was no good or bad about programming. I just manipulate thing up.. doesn't mean i remember all those php function. I'm a manipulator.If i were to said good and bad it will be a flame war language.
** Quite nice company..

Been through interviews with a few software vendor and all of them actually gave a test altho the questions are very simple questions (maybe depending on the person being tested i guess)
the questions i got are usually SQL related especially on how you intend to manipulate/relate the data given (in tables) to cater for a given scenario. All of them are actually satisfied with answers being presented in psuedo code or even as brief as plotting out in a form of a DFD with a little verbal explanation.
Ultimately, i find it as a test on how well a person is at solving a problem rather than specific language/syntax knowledge.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Sep 23 2014, 01:24 PM

i just show them my signature below and resume then they call me for an interview.