Hi Lowyat members,

Just got my new car not long ago, personally feel that the stock tyres (NCT5) for 205/55R16 is quite noisy . So, it comes to my mind to get it replaced with something better. Appreciate your comments/advice on this .

I drive a lot in city, so I would say 90% city drive and 10% on highway. I consider myself a normal driver (not too fast but not too slow). In highway, the fastest I would go probably around 140-150km/h (dry) and 90-100km/h (wet), but in city, max I can go is around 100-110km/r (dry) and 70-80km/h (wet).. but as you know, KL famous with its worse traffic, so my average speed in KL can vary from 20km/h to 90km/h.

For me, in comparison with NCT5 , I would prefer tyre that has good noise reduction (quiet) and comfort, good (or at least not bad) in handling/performance and normal durability (can reach 30k km).

Through my browse here, I saw lot ppl suggesting Yoko AdvanDB, PS3, 3ST, efficientgrip, and etc . For my driving pattern, which tyre is better and suits me? Any idea on the price range? My budget can go from 300-450 per piece.

BTW, anyone got any comments on Nitto NT830?

Also, I would trade in the NCT5, quotations for trade in and new tyres are welcomed.

From these top 10 manufacturers, survey for their comfort tyre. For Goodyear as an example, survey about Efficient Grip.

1 Bridgestone
2. Michelin
3. Goodyear
4. Continental AG
5. Pirelli
6. Sumitomo Rubber Industries, Ltd.
7. Hankook Tires
8. Yokohama Rubber
9. Cheng Shin Rubber
10. Cooper Tire and Rubber

Lowest priced comfort tyre would be the Bridgestone Turanza GR-100 for your size and requirements:
https://www.facebook.com/OsAutocareCentre/p...44986055607222/

http://www.bridgestonetyre.com.my/media/html/gr100/

Any comment from you on this tyre??

Currently using Yokohama C Drive 205/60/16 on our Accord, and C Drive 2 195/60/15 on our Citra and used up a few sets of Michelin PS3 195/50/15 on my Satria.

The Accord's C drive is due for change with 30K on them. Maybe in a few weeks.

Those are decent tyre.

But if budget can be stretched, The Advan DB and PS3 are fairly safe choices.

not yet, as my tyres are not yet due for a change so soon, but surveying my options came across this.
here are some actual Malaysian user opinions:

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?s=...dpost&p=1866155

if want silent and comfort, i guess it's AdvanDB or Michelin P3ST (note: It's Primary 3 ST, NOT THE SAME AS PS3 - Pilot Sport 3)

i have just changed to CDrive2...ok for comfort and noise (but after half used, dunno lar)..but comfort wise, probably CC5 is still better, but CDrive2 supposely have better grips in wet condition. So far, driving my CDrive2, haven't encounter aquaplanning yet...last 2 days heavy rain....maybe still new gua...but i have experience quiet a number of aquaplanning on my old CC5 with about 40km usage...maybe old liao, can't remember how it performs when still new.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Aug 13 2014, 05:28 PM

Bro u changed back to the same sized tyre ?

Nope...changes to 215/60/R16....because tried 2 shops dun have 205/60/R16...and i was in a hurry....kinda regret...the donut looks a bit big...LOL...Accord also lose to me....

whoa =.= 215/60 somemore .. you raise your ride height by 27mm

So much ar?..27mm about 1 inch... dunno how to calculate....but car still fell stable...i dont whack corner at 120km/h...

Is it bad...????

This post has been edited by Matrix: Aug 13 2014, 07:41 PM

nah just cosmetics and the rebounds going over bumps

Sample formula:
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stock = 185/55/R16
Ride height = 185 * 0.55
= 101.75

new = 215/65/R16
Ride height = 215 * 65
= 139.75

So your height difference is 139.75 - 101.75 = 38mm

eek my wrong calculation last time

So is the rebound suppose to be better?? Means comfortable rite?

Er bro, stock is 205/60/R16 lah.

205 * 0.6 =123mm

New is 215/60/R16

215 * 0.6 = 129 mm,
So difference= 129-123=6mm only!!! You sked me lar!!! 38mm!!!

lol i thought you fixed this on your new bought ride .. haha

FUIYO!!!! 215/60/R16 on City!!!! Wahhllaluuuuweeeeeehhhhhhh!!!!!!!

On Inspira lah!!! Hahaha!

The Inspira tyres quiet worn for front, anyway 40k liao, just change all to new tyres with same size...no more money for City's tyres...just lerave it be...found its not so bad after all....use until botak baru change...lol.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Aug 13 2014, 07:55 PM

What do you think about the C drive and PS3? Which is more quiet, C Drive or PS3? But definitely PS3 on the high side, but not sure if is comfort/quiet.. If is better than NCT5, is good to consider (but the saw seems need 460 per piece). How about AdvanDB? seems not much ppl selling it.

I tot Primacy 3ST is cheaper than PS3, so ideally it's less comfort than it? or is it cause different main foucs? Can it last for 30k km? cos I saw lot bad comments on the durability of Michellin, but they didn't mention how bad it is.

I see, but I saw some ppl in lowyat mention C Drive2 has poor wet grip, which looks quite contradict compare to the advertised details. and C drive2 is much cheaper than P3ST/PS3.

I swa this too, but seems not enuf review.. the shop you shared seems quite cheap, PS3 for my size cost only Rm400 per pc...

P3ST is top of the line comfort tyres from michelin. PS3 is performance tyres, not comfort tyres.

Just notice this too, thx! But does the 3ST works well (at least not bad in wet or dry condition)?
Their prices seems not vary much, PS3 at 400-460, and for 3ST 430-460.

I can't comment on the quietness of the C Drive Vs. PS3 vs NCT5 since the PS3 was on a different car, however, the NCT5 were ori tyres on the Accord and the Citra, where both was switched to C Drives/C Drive 2 respectively.

In terms of quietness, the C Drive /C Drive 2 were about the same as the NCT5s when new, but as the NCT5 wore down, it got progressively louder. The C Drive on the accord were down to its wear bars but they remained fairly quiet.

The biggest problem with our NCT5s, were that on both cars, they had abnormal wear, which lead to premature replacements, the Accord suffered more severely, 2 sets of Fronts in 30K, the outer edges stated scalloping leading to the tire unable to be balanced. The C drive worked fine on the same standard alignment settings.

Both have about the same amount of dry grip, but the C Drive sidewalls felt softer, and in the case of the Accord and Citra, were fine, since it made the car more comfortable...however, the C Drives may need slightly more air pressure since on both cars, they seem to wear out both the inner and outer thread, a symptom of underinflation.

The other issue is cost, The C-Drives were a lot cheaper than the NCT5s. Bought them at 200/ea for the 195/60/15 and 280 for the 205/60/16 (the replacement NCT5 205/60/16 was 330). These were a good 3-4 years ago so prices would have gone up.

Both C Drives have about 30K-40K on them which seems reasonably durable. Certainly more than the NCT5.

The PS3 is a more performance orientated tyre...it has significantly more dry and wet grip, better turn in and stability and more importantly, the breakaway characteristics are very linear. The PS3 is still a fairly comfortable tire. I wont be hesitant to recommend the PS3 if budget permits.

As a side note, perhaps unrelated or coincidental, I have never had a puncture with the PS3, even with nails in them, it still manages to hold its air. Unfortunately I can't say the same about the cheaper Nangkang RSII and Achelies ATR, which had sidewall failures in about 30 secs from detecting vibration, which means a very rapid loss of air, although I could not find any puncture damage.


Achiles ATR Sport


Nang Kang RSII

So it may be a wise decision to go with a better tyre, even though it is more expensive.



This post has been edited by jaycee1: Aug 14 2014, 03:34 PM

Wow, quite detailed review.. thx a lot! I might need to for better tyres then.. but since u said NCT5 about on par with C-Drive2 when is new, maybe I shud get sumthing nicer...

The GR100, EY and 3ST are in my consideration, as well as advanDB... but dunnoe which suits me more, and got quote for Nitto NT830 which seems not many ppl using..

This post has been edited by Ekash: Aug 14 2014, 11:21 PM

Nice sharing...my old CC5 also gets progressively louder ....i think about 20k+ already quiet loud...glad i bought new C-Drive 2!

I noe P3ST couldn't last long from all the comments I get, but can it last at least 30k with no major change in quality over time?

im not a user but i think most tyre can last 30k km provided you maintain them well.
btw, bro, y dun u consider c1s since itz comfort tyre and within ur budget?

cc5 is just absolutely rubbish

i'm just a few mm away from TWI with just 10k km

But heard a lot saying quiet tyres wear out fast, but dunnoe how fast is the fast.. My past driving records was only travelled 12k km each year. So if can last me for 3 years shud be quite good ady.
The price of C1S is about the same/slightly higher than efficientgrip, but not sure which are nicer.. and GR100 is cheaper than most quiet tyres.

C1S is more towards comfort-performance oriented, should have better wet traction but wears fast.. i've used efficientgrip before.. not too bad. low noise and comfortable, long lasting.. GR100 is cheapest among these three.. i think it should be more or less the same with efficientgrip.

Thx a lot for the input, seems can aim for efficientgrip/GR100 instead the expensive Primacy 3ST.

efficientgrip / GR100 will do fine.. i do not know how much better is the primacy 3st given the price difference.

I will go for the cheapest GR100 before goes for other brands. From my finding, 3ST is about 25-40 higher than efficient grip.

Hi all Sifu, anyone using Toyo T1R?? Planning to change, and was recommended this at RM360 per piece at Kajang. Is thisna good deal?? And would like to know the review about T1R.

my fren tried before on 215/45/17
according to him, dry grip is good but wet grip is below his expectation (i think he expect very good wet grip due to the aggressive tread)
quite noisy after some mileage but he is ok with it
as conclusion, he wont go back to this tyre

2 choice neuton N5000 or PS3.... both offer same grip, performance neuton N5000 1/4 price of the PS3.

Icic.. I think his expectation like me also.. Coz now on Neuton NT8000, dry acceptable but not as grippy as stock Contisportcontact. Wet u wana cry, skidden once while going through water around 1 inch like this.

Bro, Den what is ur friend using now??

So far i been loyal on PP2 and PS3... is damn good tyre the problem is pricey abit.

How much for PS3? What size r u using

TS, go for GR-100 and share your longterm review

205/55/16 , RM 420 i think , getting from Klang.... cant remember the shop name

hey bro, sorry, cant remember wat tyre he using now
i think comfort tyre

Yeah, I just becum the "white rat" today, changed my NCT5 to GR100. Initial review, not much difference maybe cos both still new.

Here some prices I get quoted:

Size 205/55R16:

BS GR100 - RM277 Hin Leong, Klang
BS GR100 - RM290 Ching Tyre Auto Service Centre, Gombak
BS GR100 - RM290 Weng Heng Tayar, Shah Alam
BS GR100 - RM300 OS Autocare Centre, Shah Alam
BS EP200 - RM300 Tyres Pro, Segambut
GY EfficientGrip - RM335 Weng Heng Tayar, Shah Alam
GY EfficientGrip - RM350 Kean Lee Hin, Jalan Ipoh
Mic Primacy 3 ST - RM360 Hin Leong, Klang
Mic Primacy 3 ST - RM375 Tyres Pro, Segambut
Mic Primacy 3 ST - RM380 Ching Tyre Auto Service Centre, Gombak
Mic Primacy 3 ST - RM410 Weng Heng Tayar, Shah Alam
Mic PS3 - RM400 OS Autocare Centre, Shah Alam
Mic PS3 - RM430 Ching Tyre Auto Service Centre, Gombak
Mic XM2 - RM360 Ching Tyre Auto Service Centre, Gombak
Mic XM2 - RM380 Weng Heng Tayar, Shah Alam
Nitto NT830 - RM365 Kean Lee Hin, Jalan Ipoh
TY C1S - RM335 Hin Leong, Klang
YK C-Drive 2 - RM280 Kean Lee Hin, Jalan Ipoh
YK C-Drive 2 - RM295 Tyres Pro, Segambut
YK C-Drive 2 - RM300 Tee 3 Auto & Tyre, Batu Caves
YK Advan AD08 - RM476 Weng Heng Tayar, Shah Alam

Wah, very good list - you have definitely done your homework!
I assume you got your GR100 from Hin Leong? Any additional charges for alignment/creditcard etc?

Price can also vary caused the manufactured period. Price are based on cash basis, by credit card will incur + 2 to 3% charge

I go with Ching Tyre which offer higher trade in than most dealers out there, and is much nearer to me which safe another petrol cost as well.

Hin Leong offered me the lowest price for GR100 but they only willing to give me the trade in price after observe the tyre in real(even rough quote also cant).

I ended up with Ching Tyre, its new tyre price is slightly higher than others(valve +10/pc and balancing +5/pc) which make it 305 each. The tyre was made in week 14-16 of 2014.

This post has been edited by Ekash: Aug 27 2014, 08:29 AM

metal valve?

yeap, a bit pricey to me cos some said below 8 can get ady

ok lar
just that most tyre shops will free balancing

Bro Ekash, hopefully can get ur review on GR100 hehe.. So can compare around.

I saw some get it at 5/pc, so basically extra 20 being paid for my case.yeah, i also his quote include free balancing but no.

That gonna be 2-3months later since my average distance travelled per month is only about 1.2k km.

Read some positive comment on Federal 595 series in Singapore forum.

If u wan comfort n noise reduction, i recommend conti CC5

I also drive a vios n change from NCT to CC5.
Clearly can hear the noise level go down after changing

This post has been edited by angel_jc8: Aug 28 2014, 10:01 PM

heard lot say the same, but it's only when the CC5 still new and it get deteriorating fast 10-15k travelled compared quiet tyres.. actually, before my trade in of NCT5, it still can be considered as quiet. but lot say it get worse after 5k...

A tire performance when it is new and worn would surely be different.
This it because the tread properties will change as the tire is worn down

Very tempted to change my current 205/50/16 tyre to Kumho Ecsta SPT 205/55/16. Was quoted RM290 perpiece.

Anyone use this tyre before?
Beside increasing the overall size of the tyre to be more comfortable. What are the downside of upsizing the tyre ? I heard from one of the shop that upsizing ths tyre larger n higher then ths stock will cause damage to gearbox without us aware.

Any opinion on this. Should i stick to 205/50, or best is getting 195/55/16?? Still undecided until hear feom all the expert. Heheh

Thanks in advance.

Bro. What is your NCT5 trade in price per pcs?

A bit higher than 150 but depends on your tyre condition.

Mine just around 450km. would it possible >RM200? I yet to search around the tyre shop for trade in.

I've no idea on this but mostly hard to fetch that high. Perhaps 200 only.

Finally changed my tyre to BS GR100 at rm300/donut (include metal valve, balancing n alignment). Trade in nct5 wo5h rm160/pcs. No charges for using credit card.

Feel a bit noise reduce but not very significant, may b need to test more round only will know.

Quite a good deal, where you change it? Use my above price list?
Nct5 when is new, is not that noisy, and more obvious when in highspeed. That y the diff not much when both are new

Yeah. I base on your price list for bargain but I changed at BS pro shop@Pasir Gudang, Johor. Unable to get the trade in price for RM200 even, only accept at 160, but free metal valve, free balancing and free alignment.

Agreed with you, can't really feel significant different between this 2 tyre when both are still new. but my feeling is for GR100 the noise is better than NCT5 in low speed, high speed both seems not much different at his moment.

Lets try this set out 1st and share the experience. one of the main reason I choose GR100 is because you had do so much survey already and you choose this tyre, 2nd of course is the price, primacy 3ST was rm100 higher/donut, last is the foreman also said not much different in term of noise reduce between GR100 and 3ST and 3ST life span should be 10k shorter.

Thank you bro

GR100 is too cheap for a bridgestone.. so strange considering the previous model GR90 was very expensive for its class.

Yeah, but it's also quieter when in high speed.
3ST shud be better in grips than GR100. My trade in is higher than urs and has travelled more than 2.2k km, jus the new tyres are more exp..
Main reason i pick gr100 is cos of the price, is much cheaper 3ST and its previous gen, GR90. So this set is as trial...

its same marketing strategy used by michelin when PP2 to PS3

GR100 no longer their premium comfort series tire

So what replace it as premium type?

no idea

not really familiar with bridgestone tire

But most user commenting that P3ST wears out fast..

Since so many Good respond that 3ST was so quiet and comfort, I think I will choose this tyre after my new GR100.

quite agree that somehow when choosing tyre need to consider weather, but this is more applicable to countries with 4 seasons, which make this choosing condition don't really apply to country M'sia..

and, if wan to avoid accident, then "performance" tyres are your best choice. Please don't consider those "fuel save", "comfort" or "long lasting" tyres.

removed: duplicated.

This post has been edited by Ekash: Sep 19 2014, 10:03 AM

LOL, social conversations marketing contractors have activated to influence the topic

anyway, local Bridgestone product positioning for reference:



This post has been edited by ADJ: Sep 19 2014, 12:06 PM

what do u guys think about potenza re002? any comment?

any tyre long lasting (40k) , comfortable and yet reasonable priced?

So which would buy PS3 or TuranzaGR100?

Isit okay to use more noise reduced tyre infront and rear use good braking tyre ?

Trust that an ex-moderator would notice We're cleaning up now.

hah didn't know he's an ex mod

=edit=
wait, adj? wasn't he ex staff with red tag? with a different avatar... or am i confusing with someone else lol

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Nov 15 2014, 11:07 AM

hi,
may i know what size and price r ur GR100?any free vlaves, balacing, alighnment?tq

http://www.bridgestonetyre.com.my/buy/deal...p/johor?start=4
which one of the 3 shops u did?

http://www.bridgestonetyre.com.my/images/p...hor/httruck.jpg

HT TRUCK SERVICE SDN BHD

PLO 53, JALAN PERAK DUA,
KAWASAN PERINDUSTRIAN PASIR GUDANG,
81700 PASIR GUDANG, JOHOR.

Tel No : 07-254 1990
Fax No : 07-254 1997

My size is 205/55/16. Free Valve, balancing and alignment

This post has been edited by yybryan: Nov 28 2014, 05:09 PM

thks yybryan

Thank to this thread i went for Michelin PS3 got it for rm420 each in Ching Tyre.

Love the grip.

Previous i was using turanza ar10

Do you mean GR 100? Please feel free to share your feeling between these two tyres.

Aiya...wet condition, under 100km/h all ok lah...

nope turanza ar10. no longer available i think. really old tyre. even the guy laugh at me say my tyre sudah botak and he asked me how i survive the wet condition

Any update on Firestone? Heard the brand was sister company of Bridgestone..

Friend,
plan to change four donut, could any sifu here mind to share which should choose if going for quiet and durable tyre between Michelin and bs? I'm a slow driver, seldom go more than 110

Size : 205/55/16

Any recommend shop to go nearby usj/puchong? What is the expected price?

I have used this size for the Exora CFE, Falken ZE 912 , comfortable and quiet. Still new < 3000km and so far so good in wet and quiet on highway. Few months it was RM 250/pc (Falken Thailand). This same shop now selling Falken Indonesia same model for RM225. Big yellow color Industrial lot shop with Continental logo at Persiaran Subang , near Honda 3S centre USJ1.

Thanks Bro for sharing, i prefer to get Michelin or BridgeStone due to my stock tyre under Michelin brand.

Bro, I will be getting my brand new car soon which the stock tyre is 205/55/16 NCT5. Do u think if I trade in my tyre the day I collect the car, can I get >rm200 for each donut from the shop that u change your tyre?
And also, do u have any idea what is the selling price now for this NCT5 so that I can use it as a guideline for trade in.
Many many thanks in advace.

If I recall correctly, my trade in should be 700/750 for 4 nuts. The trade in price is highest compared to other shops and sum dun even accept trade in..
but the new tyres selling price is about RM20-30 higher than others (those selling cheaper normally no trade in).. is hard for them to accept used nuts at high price but sell it at low price.. even is new nuts, but we cnt guarantee if it exactly in good condition. the condition could be diff ady, and do rmmbr to check the tyre manufacture date.. RM200 is possible but very hard, cos if not mistaken, the NCT5 is selling around RM260, they cant sell our used nuts as new tyres unless they're cheating their customers.

price list i have is PS3 RM 390,
i think B/S ECOPIA good enough for you as you are slow driver RM 300 each

Thanks Bro Ben, i get the P3ST from USJ18, price is 370 per donut, the tyre so far so good, very quiet, just feel a bit bumpy, could be due to the shop pump me 34 psi

Thanks Bro !

Have a look at mytayar.com for tyre pricing..

Which is quieter? GS100 or Ecopia?

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