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 Safe Vcore for Overclocking, Just FYI if u wanna preserve CPU

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ikanayam
post Sep 5 2006, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Mowgli @ Sep 5 2006, 01:40 AM)
eh..sorry for the OT : ikan, wat hapen to ur VIP tag?  huh.gif
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I promoted myself. Special association with this forum is not good for my credibility in good forums where i'm a member. Let's leave it at that.
dattebayo
post Sep 5 2006, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Aug 25 2006, 04:14 PM)
Actually I m saying "might cause", because when a CPU is operating at the extreme, some longer duration voltage spikes can cause permanent damage to the CPU. Of course, running at that voltage will reduce the CPU lifespan SIGNIFICANTLY.

As I said before in many threads, voltage is the main killer for CPU instead of heat. Well, as process technology gets finer (eg from 90nm to 65nm and etc), the fine interconnecting wires have higher current density. When you pump in more voltage the electron acceleration from 1 point to another will be higher. When the voltage is too high, wear and tear in the wires will be much higher too. Eventually the wires might break and there is no way to fix it back.

Besides, even if the CPU is still working well after some time, the performance will be going down for sure, bcoz it might not be able to work at the frequency once you are running at.

Another fact about silicon is that, using at the predefined voltage and clock speed usually can last 10 years when the CPU is running at room temperature (27C). Every 1C increment will actually decrease the lifespan by some days (I forgot the exact formula to calculate). Since Intel/AMD is giving 3 years warranty, they must make sure that the CPU wont fail or degrade when operating at 50-60C for 3 years.

Hope this may clear your doubts.
Yes. P = IV.
P = Power consumption. In CPU case, the most of the consumed power converts to heat energy.
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u mean the CPU must kept at 27 centigrade or leave the casing in 27 centgrade?
normally, Northwoord/Prescott P4 can be as high as 70C shocking.gif

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post Sep 5 2006, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Sep 5 2006, 02:30 PM)
to elaborate, power consumed in a clocked chip is proportional to CV²f (simplistic approximation). C is the capacitance, which we will assume is constant for simplicity. V is the voltage and f is the frequency. This formula seems to break down after about the 2.5-3GHz range in current chips, where the power seems to increase exponentially with frequency increases and proportional to V³.
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muahaha, u r back in action, and u are making things more complicated with that formula (although tat's the correct one tongue.gif)
Well, I read about V^3 too, but dunno the real reason. You know?
Here (u know where tongue.gif), the C memang assumed constant, so basically we are using F*V^2 for a given range of frequency.


QUOTE(dattebayo @ Sep 5 2006, 03:03 PM)
u mean the CPU must kept at 27 centigrade or leave the casing in 27 centgrade?
normally, Northwoord/Prescott P4 can be as high as 70C shocking.gif
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CPU = 27C. wink.gif

 

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