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 Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4

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post May 15 2007, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ May 15 2007, 12:31 PM)
ppl changed by its surrounding so at mclaren he is way diff than he is at renault mayb influence from the boss?? (ron vs flavio)
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True also, may be this is the case. As we know, flavio is very flamboyant
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post May 15 2007, 01:07 PM

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Well at least i don't hate Alonso anymore since he joined McLaren tongue.gif
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post May 15 2007, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ May 15 2007, 01:07 PM)
Well at least i don't hate Alonso anymore since he joined McLaren tongue.gif
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well, he is a rookie who won 2 championship. anyway, the race in spain is a bit dissapointed, when that stupid Massa dangerous driving in the first corner. if alonso think childishly and didn let any way for massa to overtake, there will be a terrible accident happened. doh.gif this kind of attitude (massa) will only see the same fate as montoya (danger driving).
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post May 15 2007, 02:59 PM

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you called alonso a rookie when he won 2 wdc (05/06)? he has been racing since 2001 how come you call him a rookie...btw agree with u,stupid massuck...for the second corner alonso already half afront of him,how the hell he said he got the inside line???first corner yes but for second corner alonso got the inside line
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QUOTE(TOYO @ May 15 2007, 02:59 PM)
you called alonso a rookie when he won 2 wdc (05/06)? he has been racing since 2001 how come you call him a rookie...btw agree with u,stupid massuck...for the second corner alonso already half afront of him,how the hell he said he got the inside line???first corner yes but for second corner alonso got the inside line
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sorry, i intend to say that he is the youngest person who won double champion, tats why i type in the word rookie. anyway, massuck still need alot to learn from shoemaker. he think childishly that by forcing alonso out to the sand, he can prevent him from overtake. this is stupid and only stupid drivers will do. he didn think of the OUTCOME if alonso also as stubborn as him. if that driver isnt alonso, but it is Montoya, i think, the top 4-5 driver there will be sapu by his(massa) stupid childish move. doh.gif
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Rivals clash over first corner tangle

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Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa clashed in their views of the first-corner collision that sent the world champion through the gravel and out of contention for a victory in his home grand prix.

The rivals banged wheels at turn one as the Spaniard tried to go around the outside of the Ferrari driver, but it was Massa who was able to hold the lead as Alonso was pitched off the circuit.

The McLaren driver's MP4-22 sustained minor aerodynamic damage from the clash and although keen to not criticise Massa directly, believed that the Ferrari driver tried a "very risky" manoeuvre.

"I think what I mean is that in this type of incident 99 per cent of the time both cars will finish in the first corner as we saw in GP2," Alonso said in the post-race press conference.

"I think when you are fighting for the championship it is very risky to be as aggressive as this in the first corner, sometimes, and I only mean that.

"We were lucky today that both cars finished, one first and one third, and thanks to that the incident will become a little less important.

And when asked to further clarify his comments, he said: "I think what I mean is that it was a very risky point in the race and I nearly finished my race in the first corner, unfortunately, when I felt that I went into the corner a little in front of the other car.

"If you look at my car, at my side-pod and the rear side of the car, it is completely touched. I think that shows everybody who arrived first into the corner. I was more than half a car in front."

However race-winner Massa defended his driving in the first corner, insisting that he was well within his rights to hold the inside line.

"Both of us," he said when asked which driver took more risk in the first corner.

"But usually I was inside, so I had the car inside, so I don't understand his point.

"It was just a normal race accident and as long as I am inside, close to the car going to the first corner, I will keep there. I will not move.

"So, if somebody was aggressive, it was Fernando, it was not me."
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Argue all you want. Like what Alonso had said, nobody gets hurt out of that incident, even though there has been some slight contact, the fact that both of them are still in the race is what is sufficient.


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post May 15 2007, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 15 2007, 02:40 PM)
well, he is a rookie who won 2 championship. anyway, the race in spain is a bit dissapointed, when that stupid Massa dangerous driving in the first corner. if alonso think childishly and didn let any way for massa to overtake,  there will be a terrible accident happened. doh.gif   this kind of attitude (massa) will only see the same fate as montoya (danger driving).
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i think massa can actually predict alonso will never risk his car....coz afterall he is a defending champion who really appreciate those points...

while in massa case, he is afterall d pole sitter.....n trying not to loss face again, like during d malaysia Gp....so trying his best to prevent alo from overtaking...


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post May 18 2007, 09:40 AM

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I guess Alonso will also feels the pressure from his rookie teammate, Lewis. I mean this guy is really flying in his debut season.
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post May 18 2007, 10:18 AM

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hope appeton will not end up like button... hope this is not only his luck for being in the right place at the right time, not saying that his not talented though...imagine if he join mclaren last season, would he be this succuess as rite now? and we only just saw 4 race only not even a quater yet...just stay tune for more episode tongue.gif

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post May 18 2007, 10:24 AM

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I'm not worried at all about Alonso at all or Hamilton for that matter. Both are very strong mentally. All those ppl bashing Alonso are forgetting that Alonso won 2 championships with some really impressive performances.
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post May 22 2007, 02:52 PM

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Yeah, I think both of them will be on the podium this weekend.
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post May 22 2007, 07:47 PM

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looks like hamilton is like the 1st driver although he is the 2nd driver
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post May 22 2007, 11:17 PM

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there is never a first or second driver in McLaren
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post May 23 2007, 09:17 AM

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ermm... expecting for a surprise this weekend!
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 22 2007, 11:17 PM)
there is never a first or second driver in McLaren
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i alwiz tat d higher paid driver is d 1st driver.. hmm.gif
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post May 23 2007, 02:21 PM

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No, it's up to the team.
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post May 24 2007, 09:30 AM

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Yeap, McLaren haven't been to the dark side of choosing the 1st and 2nd driver.
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post May 25 2007, 11:03 AM

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to spot whos the 1st or 2nd driver, i notice the upper wing located top of the car whether its painted in red color or yellow color (this season), coz last few seasons they were either painted in red or black... those with red upper winglet are 1st driver (last season), like schumi of ferrari, raikkonen of mclaren, fernando of renault... while black colored (last season) are second driver such as montoya of mclaren, fisichella of renault, or massa of ferrari...

for this season, the red upper winglet remains to be 1st driver but strangely, they change from black to yellow upper winglet for the 2nd driver...
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ May 25 2007, 11:03 AM)
to spot whos the 1st or 2nd driver, i notice the upper wing located top of the car whether its painted in red color or yellow color (this season), coz last few seasons they were either painted in red or black... those with red upper winglet are 1st driver (last season), like schumi of ferrari, raikkonen of mclaren, fernando of renault... while black colored (last season) are second driver such as montoya of mclaren, fisichella of renault, or massa of ferrari...

for this season, the red upper winglet remains to be 1st driver but strangely, they change from black to yellow upper winglet for the 2nd driver...
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that is not consider winglet,its just for camera purpose
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post May 25 2007, 03:32 PM

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heard that F1 in malaysia will be at night next season...is it true???

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